Ghetto Weapons / Bombs

[LanceTheInvader]

Any guides for such things? Can't find anything so far on the wiki. I'd love to know the possibilities. I prefer to use makeshift stuff instead of blackmarket if possible.

[LanceTheInvader]

If anyone is looking for the same thing. I have found something, wich I haven't tested yet due to rules and not wanting to get banned. Waiting for a good occasion. (For wich I will NOT reveal my planned delivery/rp for obvious reasons.)

Required Parts: Generic Signaler Device, Remote Signaling Device, Phoron Tank, Igniter.

Steps:

1- Fill the Phoron Tank with.... Phoron.

2- Use the screwdriver on both Igniter and Remote Signaler.

3- Assemble both part then screw them together. You now have a Igniter-Signaler Assembly.

4- Attach the Igniter-Signaler on the filled Phoron Tank.

5- Congratulations! You are now a terrorist. But, why the Generic Signaler Device? Next step!

Usage:

"Use the bomb", set a frequency and code. Place it or hide it wherever you need. Insert Generic Signaler Device in your PDA. Using the signaler module, set it to the same frequency and code. Send code to detonate. I did not test it yet but I presume you can hide the bomb pretty much anywhere. (Perhaps even INSIDE somebody using a certain implant?). OF COURSE be creative. Bombs are LEVERAGE and should help giving out a better RP experience and NOT be an excuse to slaughter. Not even mentionning your "delivery methods" can be original. I never tested it yet but I guess it can be quite effective for the time investment.

 

[Carver]

You overestimate the difficulty of makeshift explosives. Welding fuel is more accessible than phoron/plasma, and burns much, much hotter. The strength of the former (phoron/plasma) is being gaseous and able to spread easily compared to welder fires, which is why skilled griefers prefer it. But with a proper welding fuel grenade? I've seen entire bars of people die within seconds, whereas the purple stuff fires generally take 2-3x as long to kill.

As for makeshift weaponry, this wasn't hard to find. https://wiki.aurorastation.org/index.php?title=Improvised_Weapons

[LanceTheInvader]

12 hours ago, Carver said:

You overestimate the difficulty of makeshift explosives. Welding fuel is more accessible than phoron/plasma, and burns much, much hotter. The strength of the former (phoron/plasma) is being gaseous and able to spread easily compared to welder fires, which is why skilled griefers prefer it. But with a proper welding fuel grenade? I've seen entire bars of people die within seconds, whereas the purple stuff fires generally take 2-3x as long to kill.

As for makeshift weaponry, this wasn't hard to find. https://wiki.aurorastation.org/index.php?title=Improvised_Weapons

Then how do you make a welder bomb? If you mean sticking a detonator on these big fuel thing... I prefer a more subtil approach. And that list is insanely small...You sure that's up to date?

I tried make welder bomb but I cannot figure out how. And everytime I ask, people just say "welder bomb" but NEVER explains anything. Starting to believe those are a myth.

Edited August 28, 2019 by LanceTheInvader

[DronzTheWolf]

4 hours ago, LanceTheInvader said:

Then how do you make a welder bomb? If you mean sticking a detonator on these big fuel thing... I prefer a more subtil approach. And that list is insanely small...You sure that's up to date?

I tried make welder bomb but I cannot figure out how. And everytime I ask, people just say "welder bomb" but NEVER explains anything. Starting to believe those are a myth.

A lot of the good things are missing from it, like the improvised guns, but I can tell you a cheap and easy welder bombing style. Take an empty bottle, fill it with welder fuel, throw it on harm intent and toss a cigarette/lighter there. You can make a Molotov Cocktail my soaking a rag in welder fuel so you don't have to toss a cigarette/lighter to burn, just light it and toss.

[Doxxmedearly]

There is a book in the library which tells you how to make a pistol. So "find out ICly" applies. 

[LanceTheInvader]

37 minutes ago, Doxxmedearly said:

There is a book in the library which tells you how to make a pistol. So "find out ICly" applies. 

Sure. A lone book tells how to make a single pistol and it justify being cryptic about everything. "Find out ICly" This meme is becoming annoying already and I'm not even 2 months in.

[LanceTheInvader]

1 hour ago, DronzTheWolf said:

A lot of the good things are missing from it, like the improvised guns, but I can tell you a cheap and easy welder bombing style. Take an empty bottle, fill it with welder fuel, throw it on harm intent and toss a cigarette/lighter there. You can make a Molotov Cocktail my soaking a rag in welder fuel so you don't have to toss a cigarette/lighter to burn, just light it and toss.

Good. Thanks!

If you have other makeshift ideas go ahead. I'd really love to get more of these... I'd rather use the blackmarket less and plan ahead / craft stuff.

[Doxxmedearly]

Yikes. 

[Carver]

11 hours ago, LanceTheInvader said:

Then how do you make a welder bomb? If you mean sticking a detonator on these big fuel thing... I prefer a more subtil approach. And that list is insanely small...You sure that's up to date?

I tried make welder bomb but I cannot figure out how. And everytime I ask, people just say "welder bomb" but NEVER explains anything. Starting to believe those are a myth.

The fuel tanks can simply be shot but you can also wrench them to let them leak, drag it around a bit to create a fuel trail and that'll work. 'Welding fuel grenades' are usually a janitor replacing the cleaner of his cleaning grenades with fuel and then tossing a lighter at the mess, tho this may get you killed if you don't immediately get the fuck out. The main component of a welding fuel fire isn't the fuel reagent, so much as the 'puddles'/liquid fuel stains it creates on the ground that feed the fire.

[LanceTheInvader]

2 hours ago, Carver said:

The fuel tanks can simply be shot but you can also wrench them to let them leak, drag it around a bit to create a fuel trail and that'll work. 'Welding fuel grenades' are usually a janitor replacing the cleaner of his cleaning grenades with fuel and then tossing a lighter at the mess, tho this may get you killed if you don't immediately get the fuck out. The main component of a welding fuel fire isn't the fuel reagent, so much as the 'puddles'/liquid fuel stains it creates on the ground that feed the fire.

The cleaner grenade with welding fuel sounds kinda cool. Good way to start a fire without necesseraly breach the hull.

If we stray away a bit from bombs and pyromaniac wetdreams. Is there some other makeshifts that are not listed on the wiki?

 

[Carver]

22 minutes ago, LanceTheInvader said:

The cleaner grenade with welding fuel sounds kinda cool. Good way to start a fire without necesseraly breach the hull.

If we stray away a bit from bombs and pyromaniac wetdreams. Is there some other makeshifts that are not listed on the wiki?

I'm aware of Pikes, but I don't actually know the recipe for them. Consider ahelping the question when you're an antagonist (and posting it here since I'm deathly curious).

[LanceTheInvader]

2 hours ago, Carver said:

I'm aware of Pikes, but I don't actually know the recipe for them. Consider ahelping the question when you're an antagonist (and posting it here since I'm deathly curious).

Sure will post back when the opportunity comes.

[Doxxmedearly]

Pikes are what I originally thought were how you made spears. It's quite easy. All you need is ten planks of wood and a spearhead. The rest you'll put together. 

[VVipEdout]

IIRC, you can also attach a grenade to a pike and have it detonate when it connects after a toss, though I've never gotten it to work.

[geeves]

To a spear, yah.

[sonicgotnuked]

Bringing this back up.

 

Now bomb making does not have to be simply bound to grenades and toxins. If you're creative with atmospherics and pull some coolent from the engine, that can be a bomb. All you need is the actual valve and boom.

 

You can also attach two signalers together to a battery for a makeshift radio jammer. The longer the battery life, the more time it'll jam suit sensors and headsets.

[EvilBrage]

The problem tends to be that most makeshift weapons, in addition to requiring some unorthodox materials to make, are utter crap compared to simpler weapons - and that's if they're not outright more dangerous to you than anyone at the other end.

I wouldn't bother with improvised guns; if the jam chance isn't absurdly high, you have a 1 in 3 chance of it blowing up in your hand. Throwing metal rods manually will rack up damage quicker than a crossbow (and probably quicker than the improvised guns, but depending on RNGesus, your mileage may vary.)

I love improvised weapons as a concept, but mobs are too resilient for a lot of them to be practical.

 

[Carver]

On 06/10/2019 at 17:14, EvilBrage said:

The problem tends to be that most makeshift weapons, in addition to requiring some unorthodox materials to make, are utter crap compared to simpler weapons - and that's if they're not outright more dangerous to you than anyone at the other end.

I wouldn't bother with improvised guns; if the jam chance isn't absurdly high, you have a 1 in 3 chance of it blowing up in your hand. Throwing metal rods manually will rack up damage quicker than a crossbow (and probably quicker than the improvised guns, but depending on RNGesus, your mileage may vary.)

I love improvised weapons as a concept, but mobs are too resilient for a lot of them to be practical.

 

Spears and pikes are incredibly strong, though, Pikes being arguably one of the best melee weapons in the game for the extra tile of range alone. Crossbows are very strong, if somewhat cumbersome to make, you simply need to add a passably decent power cell and ensure you fully 'charge' the shot before firing and they can take the arm off an Unathi in one shot. Pneumatic cannons, marginally less strong but requiring specialist 'ammunition' to be viable without overcranking the pressure.

[wowzewow]

speaking of which, my RFD crossbow hasn't been added to the wiki...*cough cough*