AmoryBlaine Posted December 19, 2019 Posted December 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Marlon Phoenix said: I thought you said you modeled them after South African uniforms... 22 minutes ago, AmoryBlaine said: I'm going to sidestep your attempts to force me to change this by trying to imply I'm a nazi. My intended design was this. The sandy khaki is sand. The dark cyan-blue is the ocean.The bleached yellow is the sun. It is not my fucking fault we have in our lore a company who's whole shtick is being evil and associated with space eugenics religious zealots with the colours red and black.
AmoryBlaine Posted December 19, 2019 Posted December 19, 2019 It's not modeled after any of their uniforms, it's modeled after what I thought of when I thought of South Africa and the coast. The sand, the ocean, and the sun.
canon35 Posted December 19, 2019 Posted December 19, 2019 This is seriously a enormous stretch. The khaki uniforms are fine and you honestly can't even notice the tie and arm band most of the time, if that is such a giant issue. I also agree that the blue and yellow looks much better. If we are to change these uniforms for some reason, I would prefer those. Stop looking for a problem where one doesn't exist.
AmoryBlaine Posted December 19, 2019 Posted December 19, 2019 Quote I thought you said you modeled them after South African uniforms... What really amazes me is that you're still trying to fucking dupe me into going "Oh gee, you're right- I DID model it after the brownshirts."
niennab Posted December 19, 2019 Posted December 19, 2019 (edited) Personally I have always been quietly uncomfortable by the red arm bands we have in game. Given the pixel density we have, or the lack thereof, I think this is something we have to consider when designing sprites. Where a game with more detail could get away with this due to the variety of resolution they can work with, we simply lack the pixel density in SS13, leading to more connections drawn. Edited December 19, 2019 by niennab
Scheveningen Posted December 19, 2019 Posted December 19, 2019 posting in a weird fuckin thread Nazi accusations aside, could the red accents not just be dark brown instead?
Guest Marlon Phoenix Posted December 19, 2019 Posted December 19, 2019 I never made a Nazi accusation! Stop saying that or quote where you think I said it!
AmoryBlaine Posted December 19, 2019 Posted December 19, 2019 Just now, Marlon Phoenix said: make it a jumpsuit You know what? I already did that, but no one wants to have to PR in 408 uniform sprites, and I'm not even done finalizing the minor sprite fixes for half of those. Want to see?
Guest Marlon Phoenix Posted December 19, 2019 Posted December 19, 2019 Just now, AmoryBlaine said: What really amazes me is that you're still trying to fucking dupe me into going "Oh gee, you're right- I DID model it after the brownshirts." You said one thing "I modelled it after south africa" then you said a DIFFERENT THING "I modelled it after the security sprites" then you said the FIRST THING AGAIN when I asked which one you meant and NOW you're saying I'm calling you a Nazi Stop that I said you sprited something on accident that looks like the cringe SA uniforms That doesn't make you a nazi. You are not a victim here....
Kintsugi Posted December 19, 2019 Posted December 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Marlon Phoenix said: I never made a Nazi accusation! Stop saying that or quote where you think I said it! Don't act like you didn't insinuate that you suspected the spriter was a nazi. First you point out that the Necropolis is, in your opinion, exactly like the SA uniform. Then you follow up with saying that you suspect the spriter is a fan of Rhodesia - which, in this context, you're presenting as a connection between the artist and being a white supremacist.
Guest Marlon Phoenix Posted December 19, 2019 Posted December 19, 2019 I love this! This is great. It would be a fantastic replacement! It looks like someone I'd see walking into a star wars shuttle hangar out in the desert of Tattooine.
NewOriginalSchwann Posted December 19, 2019 Posted December 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Marlon Phoenix said: I never made a Nazi accusation! Stop saying that or quote where you think I said it! The second image in this thread is the uniform of the SA, Marlon. You then accused the spriter (Amory) of being a "huge fan" of Rhodesia, which wore green and brown uniforms.
Kintsugi Posted December 19, 2019 Posted December 19, 2019 38 minutes ago, AmoryBlaine said: This is really good, by the way. I'd gladly implement it for you, if the sprite is ready. The blue and yellow is much nicer than the red.
BurgerBB Posted December 19, 2019 Posted December 19, 2019 (edited) Necropolis Industries being nazis was never a thought in my head until this was made. Even with all the things presented in this thread, it is an extremely far stretch. I don't mean to attack criticism with criticism but the entirety of the Tajara lore is about extremely oppressive communist or fascist regimes that blacklist homosexuals and "degeneracy" that idolize communist and fascist aesthetics that some of the players disturbingly embrace. You even have a subspecies of tajara that believe that they are the superior race and frequently practice inbreeding to keep the bloodline pure. That is a bigger issue than khaki uniforms. Edited December 19, 2019 by BurgerBB
canon35 Posted December 19, 2019 Posted December 19, 2019 If you want a example of what the uniforms look like when used by geared sec officers, here it is. Not really much to insinuate nazism/Pro apartheid folks here. It just looks like a regular, khaki uniform with a little dash of red.
Guest Marlon Phoenix Posted December 19, 2019 Posted December 19, 2019 (edited) Spoiler I actually went to check and verify if my joke, which I admit was not PC, was indeed baseless, but it turns out he actually is, so it's a factual statement.... anyway let's focus on the uniform. i love the jumpsuit! Replace it with that. Edited December 19, 2019 by Marlon Phoenix
Guest Marlon Phoenix Posted December 19, 2019 Posted December 19, 2019 Just now, BurgerBB said: I don't mean to attack criticism with criticism but the entirety of the Tajara lore is about extremely oppressive communist or fascist regimes that blacklist homosexuals and "degeneracy" that idolize communist and fascist aesthetics that some of the players disturbingly embrace. You even have a subspecies of tajara that believe that they are the superior race and frequently practice inbreeding to keep the bloodline pure. That is a bigger issue than khaki uniforms. I agree. But this is not a thread about that. It's about a uniform. Can I post about one problem without being required to tackle every other problem at the same time?
AmoryBlaine Posted December 19, 2019 Posted December 19, 2019 (edited) All of these, need to have tiny insignificant fixes made to them that no one but me will notice before I can feel comfortable even asking someone to help me add them all in. So you're going to have to wait a bit. Spoiler Yes, a lot of them are in already- and they are flawed. I did not standardize pant designs, or figure out what I wanted from the MedSci collars. Edited December 19, 2019 by AmoryBlaine Photo double post
BurgerBB Posted December 19, 2019 Posted December 19, 2019 Just now, Marlon Phoenix said: I agree. But this is not a thread about that. It's about a uniform. Can I post about one problem without being required to tackle every other problem at the same time? Yes, I'm telling you that this is a non issue. I'm giving you other things that are significantly worse than that.
AmoryBlaine Posted December 19, 2019 Posted December 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Marlon Phoenix said: Hide contents I actually went to check and verify if my joke, which I admit was not PC, was indeed baseless, but it turns out he actually is, so it's a factual statement.... anyway let's focus on the uniform. i love the jumpsuit! Those are in context, either legitimate questions pertaining to the conversation and straight-faced jokes. That is not hard to figure out, given where they are posted, and the context. The rest is music. One of which is a folk album highly critical of Rhodesia as a whole. It's really, really good.
NewOriginalSchwann Posted December 19, 2019 Posted December 19, 2019 48 minutes ago, AmoryBlaine said: If you do want to add a replacement for this this is infinitely better than the jumpsuit, which does not fit security at all.
Guest Marlon Phoenix Posted December 19, 2019 Posted December 19, 2019 (edited) Just now, AmoryBlaine said: Those are in context, either legitimate questions pertaining to the conversation and straight-faced jokes. That is not hard to figure out, given where they are posted, and the context. The rest is music. One of which is a folk album highly critical of Rhodesia as a whole. It's really, really good. Great! Then you're not a fan of Rhodesia and think it was a cringe country and my joke in the OP is on the same level as your joke in the discord. And like how you're not a fan of Rhodesia from those jokes I'm not calling you a Nazi by the joke that you're a fan of Rhodesia. Now that we've moved beyond this please change the sprite. Edited December 19, 2019 by Marlon Phoenix
AmoryBlaine Posted December 19, 2019 Posted December 19, 2019 7 minutes ago, Marlon Phoenix said: I agree. But this is not a thread about that. It's about a uniform. Can I post about one problem without being required to tackle every other problem at the same time? You've been after me, more than you have been after a new fucking sprite. If you want to start a fucking complaint thread against me, I'm sure more than half the community, staff included would happily oblige in carrying out a permanent ban against me and airing out my history publically so you can all have a good laugh about how much of a piece of shit I am. You think it's lost on me how much you people fucking hate me?
Garnascus Posted December 19, 2019 Posted December 19, 2019 +1 I do not hate you amory i just hate the red armband.
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