IAmCrystalClear Posted March 28, 2020 Posted March 28, 2020 (edited) More of a discussion than a suggestion. I want to know what people think of increasing the extended gamemode probabilty in the secret rotation. I personally believe that secret extended is the worst gamemode because so few rounds are extended in secret that people are subconsiously conditioned to expect their round to be altered by antags and thus act far, far differently from rounds where it is voted extended. In security, for example, a lot of officers have a habit of ignoring minor crimes/afking at the desk etc while waiting for antags to arrive. I'm pretty sure medical suffers with similar desk-afking rounds. I also admit that I dislike how little RP goes on in security due to the expectation of antags. EDIT: I should clarify that by "increasing the probability" I personally mean to roughly 33-50% of rounds being extended. Edited March 28, 2020 by MattAtlas
Estoytrucha Posted March 28, 2020 Posted March 28, 2020 I really dislike the idea. I think rp could be better with just.. more people doing it. There ARE extended rounds, and we vote for a reason...
Roostercat Posted March 28, 2020 Posted March 28, 2020 I usually vote secret because I want antags but dont want to immediately know which antag. Secret extended is fine where it is right now.
Kintsugi Posted March 28, 2020 Posted March 28, 2020 As the head of the Pro-Extended Agenda, I heavily support any initiative to increase how common it is
Skull132 Posted March 28, 2020 Posted March 28, 2020 The long standing idea is to introduce more powerful random events. Specifically player driven ones, like random Vox appearing on station or whatever. For both extended and non-extended rounds. I don't think increasing extendo chance in secret is a good idea, extended is already the most played singular game mode, taking up 40 - 55% of the play time per year.
Kintsugi Posted March 28, 2020 Posted March 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Skull132 said: Extended is already the most played singular game mode, taking up 40 - 55% of the play time per year. An interesting statistic, but I'm not sure how accurate it is. What percentage of those rounds take place during our dead hours?
GreenBoi Posted March 28, 2020 Posted March 28, 2020 Not really for this because Extended is the main-voted gamemode other than Secret- Secret is meant to be where you get more antags and action. People will always subconsciously meta for antags because they know the chances of antag round outweighs Extended- so unless you make Secret have a 10% chance of Extended (the highest percentage chance for a gamemode in secret, as of right now only held by Autotraitor aka SS13 Classic) Extended right now is a 2% chance, that's good because it won't happen often- very little back-to-back chance, but it's still there.
IAmCrystalClear Posted March 28, 2020 Author Posted March 28, 2020 While tweaks to random events would be cool, isn't that what secret ultimately is? The objective goal is not to reduce the rate of antags spawning, but increase the non-antag interaction between crew on a whole. The issue with entire departments going SSD until an antag appears is an issue I see mostly localised to Aurora, as opposed to other RP servers I have played on that do not feature antags.
Seeli Posted March 28, 2020 Posted March 28, 2020 (edited) I really don't think we need more extended. Spoiler Edited March 28, 2020 by Seeli
IAmCrystalClear Posted March 28, 2020 Author Posted March 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Seeli said: I really don't think we need more extended. yes but what about this? Spoiler
Seeli Posted March 28, 2020 Posted March 28, 2020 Keep scrolling up, there are days with back to back to back extended rounds. There are days with 50/50 extended. And then days with mostly antag. Point is. I personally don't think we need more extended. Especially when some, possibly bunch of those "antag rounds" it is probably just antag-extended, with peace gimmicks or missing antags for whatever reason.
MattAtlas Posted March 28, 2020 Posted March 28, 2020 If anything we have too many back-to-back rounds. I think the current extended chance is good enough™ until Other Developments© happen. As Seeli generously showed, it's really not as uncommon as you think. In fact, secret extended is actually quite common. Voting for dismissal.
Wigglesworth Jones Posted March 28, 2020 Posted March 28, 2020 More extended is nice, and I am for this change.
niennab Posted March 29, 2020 Posted March 29, 2020 (edited) I am a sucker for extended so I will always support the idea of having more if it. edit: 4/4/2020 Recently I feel we've have seen a significant reduction in extended and I don't know if it's due to antag drafting or just the give and take that is "sometimes the secret players are on more often" and "sometimes the extended players are on more often". The recent set of days look like this, not the above: Spoiler Edited April 4, 2020 by niennab
Carver Posted April 2, 2020 Posted April 2, 2020 I'm down for increased odds if back-to-back is made impossible for any game mode. Extended is great.
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