goolie Posted October 25, 2020 Posted October 25, 2020 (edited) Whenever I looked at the records via a console in game I got confused because the three tabs disabilities, diseases and allergies would always be blank even though the patient in question could be listing several of those in their records. It contradicts itself and those tabs are always reset every round. I think they should be removed completely and the notes section should be renamed to “detailed medical records.” This way we don’t have people with specific issues coming up as “no disabilities, no diseases or no allergies” because of the tabs that don’t do anything. Edited October 25, 2020 by goolie
Haydizzle Posted October 25, 2020 Posted October 25, 2020 I figured the disabilities tab was for when someone has a mechanical disability from the character setup menu. If that's not the case, I'd be for removing all three, or at least the other two.
goolie Posted October 25, 2020 Author Posted October 25, 2020 I’m not too sure because right now I’m not at my computer to check. Should be able to get clarification from someone else if they use the mechanical disabilities.
Carver Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 Disabilities showing disabilities? What a ridiculous line of thought.
goolie Posted October 26, 2020 Author Posted October 26, 2020 I knew they didn’t work! That’s why whenever I checked a console my brain was totally frazzled. People would have disabilities and they wouldn’t show up on the tab specifically designed for disabilities! I didn’t know what was going on. After speaking to a few friends who encouraged me to bring this up, I’m glad it wasn’t just me who was getting confused over the disappearing disabilities.
Carver Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 To be fair, it does state they need to be declared. So it would make sense if there was an option to have one's disabilities shown on record, with the default being them not on record. I'd say just remove them though, they're a holdover from when Bay expected MDs to fill out whole records for every little change in round from Geneticist-made disabilities to Viruses and so forth.
Playbahnosh Posted October 26, 2020 Posted October 26, 2020 -1 No. How about we start fixing stuff instead of nuking and nerfing absolutely everything? 80% of this subforum is remove/nuke/nerf/gimp without offering a single thing in return or, *ghasp*, actually adding something. How about making the disabilities from loadout actually show up on the disabilities tab? It can't be optional or declared, because it makes no sense. Do you think a hyper-capitalist company like NT would just hire anyone without doing a thorough and complete physical first? Hells-to-the-naw! A handicapped/disabled/prosthetized person is a huge liability to a company, and you can bet your assets NT would want all that on record. Unless you can bring skills and abilities to make up for your disabilities, you wouldn't even work here period. So, yes, the disabilities tab should be fixed to work as intended and not removed. As for allergies, since there are no mechanics behind them, it can be left for RP purposes OR some allergy mechanics added maybe. Current diseases is only for RP purposes, which can be filled by medical during the round. It's mostly a leftover from when Virology, Genetics and Psych/traumas were a thing so this one is actually kinda redundant right now. But can be made legit again by actually adding some chronic diseases that are not classified as disabilities, such as diabetes, lumbago, seizures, migraines, tinnitus, etc.
furrycactus Posted October 27, 2020 Posted October 27, 2020 8 hours ago, Playbahnosh said: -1 No. How about we start fixing stuff instead of nuking and nerfing absolutely everything? 80% of this subforum is remove/nuke/nerf/gimp without offering a single thing in return or, *ghasp*, actually adding something. How about making the disabilities from loadout actually show up on the disabilities tab? It can't be optional or declared, because it makes no sense. Do you think a hyper-capitalist company like NT would just hire anyone without doing a thorough and complete physical first? Hells-to-the-naw! A handicapped/disabled/prosthetized person is a huge liability to a company, and you can bet your assets NT would want all that on record. Unless you can bring skills and abilities to make up for your disabilities, you wouldn't even work here period. So, yes, the disabilities tab should be fixed to work as intended and not removed. As for allergies, since there are no mechanics behind them, it can be left for RP purposes OR some allergy mechanics added maybe. Current diseases is only for RP purposes, which can be filled by medical during the round. It's mostly a leftover from when Virology, Genetics and Psych/traumas were a thing so this one is actually kinda redundant right now. But can be made legit again by actually adding some chronic diseases that are not classified as disabilities, such as diabetes, lumbago, seizures, migraines, tinnitus, etc. So, like, what people already do in their custom medical records?
Butterrobber202 Posted October 27, 2020 Posted October 27, 2020 1 hour ago, furrycactus said: So, like, what people already do in their custom medical records? Checked and debunkedpilled.
goolie Posted October 27, 2020 Author Posted October 27, 2020 I'm not sure where you're coming from @Playbahnosh. The tabs are completely defunct. You can add your own disabilities and such in the medical records section of your character set up so Nanotrasen is already hiring people with a variety of different afflictions. The admins are incredibly flexible with what disability you wish to choose. The tabs that exist don't even show the mechanical disabilities, they aren't working and they don't need to work. I think it's literally just taking up space when we have this separate record system that can record everything. I've spoken to Medical players and not a single one of them uses the pre-made tabs that exist. Nothing is being removed here besides code that isn't working properly.
Carver Posted October 27, 2020 Posted October 27, 2020 11 hours ago, Playbahnosh said: -1 No. How about we start fixing stuff instead of nuking and nerfing absolutely everything? 80% of this subforum is remove/nuke/nerf/gimp without offering a single thing in return or, *ghasp*, actually adding something. How about making the disabilities from loadout actually show up on the disabilities tab? It can't be optional or declared, because it makes no sense. Do you think a hyper-capitalist company like NT would just hire anyone without doing a thorough and complete physical first? Hells-to-the-naw! A handicapped/disabled/prosthetized person is a huge liability to a company, and you can bet your assets NT would want all that on record. Unless you can bring skills and abilities to make up for your disabilities, you wouldn't even work here period. So, yes, the disabilities tab should be fixed to work as intended and not removed. As for allergies, since there are no mechanics behind them, it can be left for RP purposes OR some allergy mechanics added maybe. Current diseases is only for RP purposes, which can be filled by medical during the round. It's mostly a leftover from when Virology, Genetics and Psych/traumas were a thing so this one is actually kinda redundant right now. But can be made legit again by actually adding some chronic diseases that are not classified as disabilities, such as diabetes, lumbago, seizures, migraines, tinnitus, etc. Ah yes, 'nuking' a vestigial remnant from an entirely different server that no one has used in about seven or more years. It won't be missed.
StationCrab Posted October 28, 2020 Posted October 28, 2020 (edited) On 26/10/2020 at 13:11, Playbahnosh said: -snip- While I generally agree with this sentiment, in this case there is no reason to salvage this redundant feature. Records aren't going anywhere, it is just getting rid of the section that resets itself and making it clearer how to access the permanent notes. Edited October 28, 2020 by StationCrab speeling
Playbahnosh Posted October 28, 2020 Posted October 28, 2020 43 minutes ago, StationCrab said: While I generally agree with this sentiment, in this case there is no reason to salvage this redundant feature. Records aren't going anywhere, it is just getting rid of the section that resets itself and making it clearer how to access the permanent notes. I do think disabilities and chronic diseases should be displayed separately from the medical records dumpster. It's easier to see and handle, I think. But if so many people are against this, sure, just remove it.
goolie Posted October 31, 2020 Author Posted October 31, 2020 You could take that up in another thread @Playbahnosh. Right now if you’re using the records on the wiki you need to state your disabilities in your records. Maybe if the broken tabs were worked on, the disabilities could be displayed there? That’s a lot of work though and I think that just removing them would be easier.
goolie Posted December 26, 2020 Author Posted December 26, 2020 Did anything ever come of this? I completely forgot I made this thing.
wowzewow Posted December 29, 2020 Posted December 29, 2020 a lot of stuff has been VueUI'd so I'd reckon they SHOULD be fixed and displaying disabilities properly. There hasn't been any extensive testing in a long time though. This is likely a bug. Report it to the Github.
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