Rename Brute damage to Trauma damage

[Nanako]

A little offhand idea i had while working in medbay, that a colleague agreed with.

Trauma is the medically correct term for physical injury. I don't know where brute came from, but it feels silly. A knife can cause brute damage, though it's hardly a brutish weapon

The only reason i can think of is that Brute might be less confusing to new players. I don't think this is a good thing, personally. More to learn means more to do, and more RP interactions for an intern to have with a senior staffmember teaching them things.

We even have Advanced Trauma Kits in the medical vending machines

[Demonofthefall]

100% agree with this. It sounds stupid when people say "He has brute damage",

[witchbells]

Lo and behold, SS13 was not created by or for medical professionals. Who would have thought?

Just call it trauma IC.

[Nanako]

Just call it trauma IC.

already do. I can't bear to ever say brute damage

If someone is dying on the monitor i will call out "X is suffering from massive trauma in Y, security help him!"

[SierraKomodo]

I tend to call it 'brute force trauma'

[Owen]

I have noticed a lot of people call it was Sierra does but, it doesn't seem like that big of an issue if it is changed. Suppose I can agree with the change.

[LordFowl]

I call it "bleedy hurty boo-boos", and recommend this as the proper IC term.

[UnknownMurder]

I'm not sure if the word 'Brute' came from the word 'Bruise' as a root word. I'd been fine with either Bruise or Trauma.

I've done a little research for fun, there is a lot of medical words for Trauma, like PTSD. Emotion Trauma is a thing. Pyschological trauma is a thing too. I'd rather choose Bruise over Trauma so we don't make it more confusing. However, Bruise is a result of the Trauma. You would treat to the bruise, but not treat to the trauma (I believe?). None of us are Medical Doctors while some claims to be EMT (or just lying like FaceBook 'professionals').

Summary: Let's choose a word that is the most clearest of understanding.

[Zundy]

Just call it "Physical Trauma"(PT), because that's what it is, a catch all including anything from a bruise to having your head chopped off.

[Guest]

Does it really matter? It seems trivial.

[Nanako]

Does it really matter? It seems trivial.

Well it matters to me personally, it's a niggling annoyance when playing a doctor

it should also be fairly trivial to implement, so i don't see triviality as an argument against it

[SierraKomodo]

Does it really matter? It seems trivial.

Well it matters to me personally, it's a niggling annoyance when playing a doctor

it should also be fairly trivial to implement, so i don't see triviality as an argument against it

 

If past experience is anything to learn by, what you consider trivial turns into a month of fixing everything because the one string that used to say 'Brute' was tied into a bunch of stuff and everything broke when it was changed to 'Trauma'.

[Owen]

Does it really matter? It seems trivial.

Well it matters to me personally, it's a niggling annoyance when playing a doctor

it should also be fairly trivial to implement, so i don't see triviality as an argument against it

 

If past experience is anything to learn by, what you consider trivial turns into a month of fixing everything because the one string that used to say 'Brute' was tied into a bunch of stuff and everything broke when it was changed to 'Trauma'.

 

I don't see changing as being high-priority at the moment. Things are still being ironed out from the code transfer.

[Lord Lag]

If past experience is anything to learn by, what you consider trivial turns into a month of fixing everything because the one string that used to say 'Brute' was tied into a bunch of stuff and everything broke when it was changed to 'Trauma'.

 

This. All of this.

[Skull132]

The easiest way would be to just rename the plain text used in the menus. Renaming all of code to use trauma instead of brute would be dumb, and so much work for little gain. So just change how the front end looks, and done

[Nanako]

The easiest way would be to just rename the plain text used in the menus. Renaming all of code to use trauma instead of brute would be dumb, and so much work for little gain. So just change how the front end looks, and done

 

Agreed, i have no objection to not changing the code.

[Carver]

Renaming brute to trauma is like renaming assault rifle to gun, it's quite possibly the least descriptive word you could pick for what can be summed up /properly/ as, 'Brute trauma'. There's really no other word like brute that fits quite as well except perhaps 'Kinetic'.

[Zundy]

Physical? Short for Physical Trauma?

[Carver]

Physical? Short for Physical Trauma?

Burns are physical trauma. Infact every single type of damage can be adequately described as 'Physical'.

[Guest]

Brute is a catch-all term referring to physical trauma not caused by heat but rather by an object or person. Blunt force and sharp force are included amongst these.

Burn refers to dermal damage, it does not penetrate nor bruise. Rather than tissue bruising or tearing, it swells or even singes off instead.

These are simply nomenclature terms to better explain and define mechanics in the game system. Medbay players are still expected to know the difference between brute force and sharp force. Roleplayers should almost always research fields they are not familiar with so they don't wing it horrifically and break every law of sense.

[Zundy]

Burns are physical trauma. Infact every single type of damage can be adequately described as 'Physical'.

 

Burns are Burns, Physical Trauma is Physical Trauma. Every single type of damage could be classifed under "Injury", which also includes burns.

The term 'burn' is a catch all for a multitude of different things, as is 'Physical Trauma'.

At the moment shooting some one counts aa brute which would actually be penetrating, likewise stabbing is also penetration, not "sharp force".

 

Renaming brute to trauma is like renaming assault rifle to gun, it's quite possibly the least descriptive word you could pick for what can be summed up /properly/ as, 'Brute trauma'

 

More like every weapon in the game at the moment is called an Assault Rifle, but folks want to change the catch all name to gun as there's more then one type of weapon.

[Carver]

Burns are Burns, Physical Trauma is Physical Trauma.

Yes, and burns are very much physical. So are toxins poisoning you. And radiation poisoning. And suffocation.

 

If you absolutely insist on renaming brute, have it be something semi-sensible like 'Kinetic'.

 

[Zundy]

Burns are Burns, Physical Trauma is Physical Trauma.

Yes, and burns are very much physical. So are toxins poisoning you. And radiation poisoning. And suffocation.

 

If you absolutely insist on renaming brute, have it be something semi-sensible like 'Kinetic'.

 

 

We're talking medical man, a burn isn't physical trauma. You can get a burn as a by product of kinetic energy I.E friction burn. That isn't physical trauma, that's a burn.

To be honest though, if people prefer kinetic then fine though it solves nothing since you just end up going, "what's kinetic damage?" "oh, it's physical trauma".

EDIT: Kinetic is fine tho fam