Nanako Posted January 15, 2017 Posted January 15, 2017 We see this at least once a month. Someone has a moral panic about a feature, new or existing, and campaigns to remove it. It happened with makeshift weapons, cargo stock, science weaponry/lockboxes, mice, telescience, complaints about merc/cult modes, and that wierd campaign to remove the bar. We usually talk it out until people get bored and leave it alone, or occasionally find an agreeable compromise. This cycle repeats endlessly, i thought we might have learned to recognise it and avoid it by now. But its happening again. Couple days ago i added a big pile of new cyborg sprites. They all went through an extensive review process and several were vetoed by skull. this is normal. The rest were approved with some minor changes, and went in. No big deal. One of those sprites happened to be a maid-shaped service borg, and headmin Itzal has a problem with it. Due to a combination of frantic shouting, and skull being too busy to debate the issue, this one has actually gone through https://github.com/Aurorastation/Aurora.3/pull/1578 The maidborg sprite has been removed, citing administrative issues, and i feel the need to protest this. 1. Calm down. We do this moral panic thing constantly. People abuse every new feature thats added for a while, without fail. Every chance causes some problems until the novelty wears off. This is no different, and people need to just calm down, chill out and deal with it, let things simmer out. The reaction to a feature within its first couple days is no reason to rashly remove it. We've always displayed temperance in the past. 2. Deal with the problem, no scapegoating. The administrative issues that caused the need for removal are actions by players. A couple bad apples playing service borgs were breaking RP standards. I saw someone using emoticons in IC chat, andironically playing a sarcastic kawaii uguu personality. New content is generally not a change in the rules, certainly not in this case. the same rules still apply on IC conduct and believable RP. They should be enforced as normal and anyone breaking them dealt with. Content doesn't cause issues. People cause issues. And generally only for a coup[le days until shit calms down and the novelty wears off. 3. It fits. A maid sprite makes sense for a service borg, because its part of a set. Service borgs already include butlers, bartenders and waitresses. They have a general theme of uniformed servants going on. Station bound units are custom built to fill a role, and be good at one specific thing. An engineering borg gets massive limbs and heavy plating, because their job is industrial. they move and operate heavy equipment, they go into spaceand patch the hull. I'm definitely not condoning a maid-shaped engineer, it wouldn't fit. The heaviest thing a service borg has to lift is a bottle of vodka. Service borgs exist for one purpose and only one purpose. Crew morale. They cook fresh food, even though we have vending machines. They serve, and actually internally synthesize alcohol, which only has recreational purposes. They fabricate and dispense cigarettes, and even dispense dice and cards so they can play games with crew. They are entirely unnecessary for any core functions, and exist only to make the crew happier A pleasing exterior is simply the logical extension of that - a more identifiable body helps with morale. TL:DR. Don't give into moral panic. Punish rulebreakers. Give new content time for the novelty to wear off This removal was entirely unnecessary and should be reverted
SierraKomodo Posted January 15, 2017 Posted January 15, 2017 So I'm noticing a new pattern and I have to ask. When did we go from 'Dealing with the troublemakers' to 'Just removing the entire thing because of a couple troublemakers'?
Shadow Posted January 15, 2017 Posted January 15, 2017 Alright, for now, the short explanation. Tomorrow when I get home, the long explanation. 1) Sprite is a) ugly as hell b) doesn't fit the other sprites 2) People are being people, the comments they make, the pictures they drew, yes, they actually did that. 3) Doesn't fit the aurora atmosphere Both headmins and head dev said this won't be added back. It won't be added back. Period.
Skull132 Posted January 15, 2017 Posted January 15, 2017 So I'm noticing a new pattern and I have to ask. When did we go from 'Dealing with the troublemakers' to 'Just removing the entire thing because of a couple troublemakers'? Tbh I'm on the fence about the Shells shit. And will look into it at some point after my exams finish. This, though, tends to fall more into the same category as having cat ears available for everyone would.
Scheveningen Posted January 15, 2017 Posted January 15, 2017 I'd really love to hear the long explanation, this sounds like it has an amazing story behind it. Edit: Just saw the image. Why dudes. Why. Just stop. It's time to stop.
MoondancerPony Posted January 15, 2017 Posted January 15, 2017 Can we just remove the service module? Actually. Remove borgs, add xenomorphs. Done.
Azande Posted January 16, 2017 Posted January 16, 2017 Alright, for now, the short explanation.Tomorrow when I get home, the long explanation. 1) Sprite is a) ugly as hell b) doesn't fit the other sprites 2) People are being people, the comments they make, the pictures they drew, yes, they actually did that. 3) Doesn't fit the aurora atmosphere Both headmins and head dev said this won't be added back. It won't be added back. Period. uh none of the new sprites 'fit', they all look awkward as hell compared to everything else. As well, if we're getting rid of this can we get rid of the slutty nurse dress and hat too?
Pratepresidenten Posted January 16, 2017 Posted January 16, 2017 If anything should be removed, its the spiderbot sprite. Also, stahp losing your heads over muh draw, I-its embarrasing~ （*´▽｀*）
DatBerry Posted January 16, 2017 Posted January 16, 2017 If anything should be removed, its the spiderbot sprite. Also, stahp losing your heads over muh draw, I-its embarrasing~ （*´▽｀*） This. If the spoderbot isnt removed im making a r34 picture because its: A: ugly af B: doesn't fit
Skull132 Posted January 16, 2017 Posted January 16, 2017 For ref, here's the thing. (This is true size, 32x32 pixels. Download and upscale if you feel like it.) https://kama.skullnet.me/index.php/s/Ou5qnPfIjytG4Cg
Scheveningen Posted January 16, 2017 Posted January 16, 2017 For actual reference of an Aurora player that actually drew this. Congratulations, thou proved thine intentions on the server quite nicely by appealing to the lowest common denominator.
witchbells Posted January 16, 2017 Posted January 16, 2017 For actual reference of an Aurora player that actually drew this. Congratulations, thou proved thine intentions on the server quite nicely by appealing to the lowest common denominator. ..I think it's kind of cute.
Scheveningen Posted January 16, 2017 Posted January 16, 2017 I doubt it was drawn for the sake of cuteness, Nursie, that was not whoever drew it was going for!
Pratepresidenten Posted January 17, 2017 Posted January 17, 2017 I drew it over "Kawaii, uguu~" weaboo comments that were made regarding its apperance. The innuendo is just a bonus.
Azande Posted January 17, 2017 Posted January 17, 2017 I think the maidborg fits a LOT better than a lot of the new sprites...
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