2 dismissals [1 Dismissal] Enhancing Medical Efficiency

[Kaed]

Medical can be a chaotic place during busy rounds, and often becomes a blood-soaked nightmare where people lose track of who they treated and for what. So, I propose a simple in-round documentation system that stores medical visits and activity involved under the doctor who performed them. This could be done at a special console located in places throughout the medical, or even through the medical PDA, I suppose. It would auto-fill some things like time of form submission and date, but the end result would be an array of documented activity for every doctor/patient interaction, including data like:

-Name of Doctor

-Name of Patient

-Time of patient arrival

-Diagnosis (broken leg, trauma wounds on head and neck, poisoning, deceased on arrival, etc)

-Treatment procedure (Used basic first aid kit, administered dylovene, performed bone reconstructive surgery, cloned, etc)

-Patient condition on release

This would be organized on a per-doctor basis, allowing the CMO to track what doctors are doing what, and if they aren't doing anything and are being lesbians in the back room all shift slacking off. Psychiatrists could also submit their own form, but it might arranged a little differently, because they don't generally treat physical problems.

Also, some way of designating a crowd of wounded/dead thrown in medicals lap to prioritize them, such as color-coded tags you can put on people (triage tags) after a cursory examination to help doctors prioritize properly, would be good. Probably via a device that lets you pick the tag color and then apply it to a downed person, rather than a finite quantity of them in some sort of box.

Edited September 27, 2017 by Guest

[Mcspizzy]

Can we add triage cards too please.

[Kaed]

That's technically a different suggestion, but I revised the title and added it to be part of the same suggestion.

[Azande]

Medical records. You're talking about medical records. Update them yourself, I do it as CMO and enforce others do it while I'm CMO.

For triage, that is what your HUD is for, see their pain/health level, and go treat them based on that.

[Kaed]

Medical records. You're talking about medical records. Update them yourself, I do it as CMO and enforce others do it while I'm CMO.

For triage, that is what your HUD is for, see their pain/health level, and go treat them based on that.

 

... No, it isn't. Medical records document relevant medical information about an individual. They do not track the activity and performance of a doctor over a shift. Medical records also can only be accessed at certain desks, and has a really gross, wonky formatting system. Forcing doctors to go to these consoles after every patient is a hassle which this suggestion tries to alleviate. "Treated for cut on leg by Doctor McNurse" is not a relevant enough addition to medical records to justify it, and further does not allow you to sort by doctor.

Similarly, medical huds only give you very general level of the health of a subject, rather than their actual injuries. Someone can have less physical damage than another person, but be suffering from internal bleeding and broken bones. This is especially true if first aid is being performed on external injuries. Relying entirely on the medical hud can put that person in danger. Sure, you could rely on every doctor wordlessly walking by and scanning every wounded person with a handheld scanner, or... you could rely on some kind of teamwork for the medical staff and allow some people to carry out initial diagnosis and severity before tagging patients for the actual doctors to prioritize.

[Zundy]

You literally can add temp notes via your medical HUD.

[Kaed]

This still doesn't address tracking doctor activity or the triviality of writing every scratch onto someone's medical records.

[Zundy]

This still doesn't address tracking doctor activity or the triviality of writing every scratch onto someone's medical records.

 

You know what fair play, if a coder wants to code it and add a section on the medical computers/PDA for this sort of thing then I don't see why not. It's not negative or unbalanced in anyway.

[Scheveningen]

... No, it isn't. Medical records document relevant medical information about an individual. They do not track the activity and performance of a doctor over a shift.

 

This is normally tracked through the lack of dead crewmembers and viscera on the three general access decks. What would this do that medical HUDs or anyone with eyes do not already do?

[Pratepresidenten]

Although this suggestion is fine and well, there is no feasible way to effectivize medical without having stable, competent medical staff that doesnt just OD patients on Dylovene while they suffocate, or simply just SSD in the middle of whatever.

You can put in as many fancy things you like, but without a stable core, it is all for naught.

[Guest Marlon Phoenix]

When you leave comments via the HUD it tells you who left the comment and even includes a time stamp. Everything you are proposing be automated can be done with minimal effort on a medical player's part. Your medical HUD even lets you do it remotely, needing only vision on the patient to shift-click them.

As CMO I always insistently ask my doctors to leave comments structured as:

WHO came in with WHAT illness and given TREATMENT

ie:

Michael Douglas came in with severe burns, given dermaline.

What you are asking for is automating this process. I feel like we should focus more on encouraging players to do the really simple record keeping. That is the entire purpose of the nurse role - if everything is automated, what is left for us? Mistakes and slip-ups during shifts is Space Station 13. Leave us human error while trying to delegate and lead your staff as a Head.

[Kaed]

That's all well and good, but it's not actually what I'm asking for. Leaving a note on someone's medical record is centralized to that person. There is no way to sort activity based on a doctor, not a patient. We could certainly work a 'reporting your services' mechanic into the medical hud instead of making an entirely new console, but I'd still like there to be a tertiary system SEPARATE from medical records. Doctor activity logs, if you will. I want to see what my doctors have done on a shift, in an easy to access format that doesn't require me to look at every medical record and take tally.

'Are there currently corpses and blood in medical' is not sufficient data for what I'm wanting, either. I don't know why anyone would ever respond to an suggestion about additional data entry mechanics with 'just track activity by how many bodies are in medical'.

"Is there blood all over the floor?"

"No sir."

"Welp, guess that's all I needed to know! Medical must be doing it's job!"

Sheesh.

I will admit that the triage tag thing could probably be replaced by huds , except...

-Medical huds are only found in one out of the way place of medical and no one spawns with them

-Not everyone wants to wear a medical hud at all times and would rather rely on direct observations, because medical huds are inaccurate.

-If we're going to leave notes about someone's status on their records via huds, it's going to get cluttered fast. A simple colored tag would be a very efficient visual marker.

-Medical huds look really stupid (this is actually just an opinion, though)

[Guest Marlon Phoenix]

Would having HuD comments put in the patient records AND a separate 'doctors services' page in the medical consoles work? Then you have a nice print-out of all the comments left by doctors right there.

[Arrow768]

Although this suggestion is fine and well, there is no feasible way to effectivize medical without having stable, competent medical staff that doesnt just OD patients on Dylovene while they suffocate, or simply just SSD in the middle of whatever.

You can put in as many fancy things you like, but without a stable core, it is all for naught.

 

Exactly.

If you want to do these things, then you can already do so.

But that only works if you have a competent medical team.

If you have doctors that dont even move themselfs to cryo, then the best system is useless.

[Kaed]

Although this suggestion is fine and well, there is no feasible way to effectivize medical without having stable, competent medical staff that doesnt just OD patients on Dylovene while they suffocate, or simply just SSD in the middle of whatever.

You can put in as many fancy things you like, but without a stable core, it is all for naught.

 

Exactly.

If you want to do these things, then you can already do so.

But that only works if you have a competent medical team.

If you have doctors that dont even move themselfs to cryo, then the best system is useless.

 

You know, that's more of an ooc issue. Saying we shouldn't implement anything to improve medical because 'no one would use it due to being incompetent buffoons' strikes me as fairly pessimistic. True as it may be or not, QoL improvements shouldn't just be discarded because you think they'd never end up being used.

 

Would having HuD comments put in the patient records AND a separate 'doctors services' page in the medical consoles work? Then you have a nice print-out of all the comments left by doctors right there.

 

Sure, that works. I mean, as long as it's there, whatever provides you with the data organized by doctor is fine.

[LordFowl]

Voting for dismissal. A competent CMO can already track their doctor with the eyeball.

[Fluffy]

I don't think this adds much if anything in terms of gameplay in the current map, and a form can already be written up by the CMO or whoever for this use, therefore, seconding the vote for dismissal.