Snake2512

When are we going to talk about the fact that the HoS section is just the Station Dads and the HoP section is just the Station Mums

+1 as Emily Cress is a certified rude girl with a mysterious past. I demand to know this past.

No your point is you never did anything wrong in the first place. Your original statement on the situation was just 'oh all I did was tell Snake God couldn't be proven' when that was profoundly not the case. Here's a tip champ, try not to lie about stuff that happened earlier in this thread.

> I just told Snake you couldn't mathematically prove God exists. No you didn't, you insisted on insulting religion and faith whilst mustering up no real charity to the discussion. (this is my favorite one) the last quote sums up his entire position in this thread as well.

As a powerful valid hunter and power game extraordinaire who has never really suffered this issue I think the real crux of the problem is: Clarification. It's sort of in the realm of what Contextual was saying. The Head of Security is the most necessary force in Security for the very simple reason of he is the only person in the department who can actually order someone to do something. As a result he is also the person in the department who will eat the most shit if something goes wrong. Security generally doesn't mess around with crew on extended because a lot of officers might be scared of confrontation, scared of ruining their reputation or just might be uncertain on how to proceed. People lie to Security all the time and even a small bit of doubt can paralyse any bit of action taken because the Officers feel they either lack the authority or the resources to get a conclusion. The only times I ever truly have to handle brig processing as a HoS is because its an arrest based on a he said she said situation and I trust myself to be smart enough to catch someone out in a lie. Most officers do not trust themselves to do this and aren't really willing to risk brigging the wrong dude and being treated as an asshole. Antags don't suffer from this grey confusion though because antags are usually really loud and really blatant in their regulation violations (it also isn't canon). Simply put? Security doesn't like to get aggressive on canon rounds because HRPers care about their reputation. However the moment there is a Head of Security that will happily eat the bullet for arresting the popular person? Then the entire security team will annihilate the dirty regulation breaker. No questions asked.

Me typing in broken english just to upset other players.

Reporting Personnel: Vance Khan Job Title of Reporting Personnel: Head of Security Game ID: b4I-ahyE Personnel Involved: - Tzarka Ssarzi - Victim - Rako Azkazainar – Offender Secondary Witnesses: (Name, Job Title: Short description of what they witnessed) - Zihuki Rehiohks – Arresting Officer/Witness - Jaquelyn Roberts – Responding Paramedic/Witness Time of Incident: 17:00 Station Time Approximate. Real Time: 13:30 GMT+10:30 South aussie time. 15/12/19 Location of Incident: Cargo Lobby and Maintenance Nature of Incident: [ ] - Workplace Hazard [ ] - Accident/Injury [ ] - Destruction of Property [ ] - Neglect of Duty [ ] - Harassment [ X ] - Assault [ ] - Misconduct [ ] - Other _____ (Place an x in the box that applies. If other, replace line and specify.) Overview of the Incident: Due to the lack of primary witnesses in the following case it is difficult to diagnose the reality of this attack, all that is known is that it was violent, barbaric and unfitting. The following shift lacked a Detective. We do not know if the attack was provoked by a third party or by the victim. What we do know is as follows. At approximately 16:50 to 17:00 I received a report from the Chief Medical Officer Stephen Webb that someone had been brutally assaulted. Naturally I dispatched an Officer to gather further information from the victim. I set out personally with my CSI at the time, Kipuloon Quumq, to pursue the scene of the crime. Cargo was reported as barren of employees by Officer Elise Taylor, something I confirmed personally and asked a member of cargo to come to their department. Due to the overwhelming silence from any employee after the first request, I let myself in and discovered a security headset lay on their desk. The reality of this confirmed that a member of my own team may be compromised, and my channels were. A series of complicated manoeuvres were enacted to probe the security breach my department had suffered. I will not list them however as they are not directly related to the report at hand. At Approximately 17:20 and 17:22 both the responding medic, Miss Roberts and the Victim, Miss Ssarzi were interviewed by myself and Officer Rehiohks. I will attach their contents. The extent of the damage that Miss Ssarzi had suffered correlated with attempted murder, as such I issued a warrant for Rako’s immediate arrest the moment his name was confirmed by the victim, PDA conversations and my CSI. His arrest was however significantly delayed due to a massive migration of carp. I shifted priorities to put down the Carp menace that threatened the crew and station far more directly before resuming the hunt for Rako. Rako was found approximately an hour later, SSD, in the rafts above the pool by Officer Rehiohks during a camera sweep. He was detained and charged for attempted murder due to the details that were present at the time. I personally searched his belongings and failed to find the device described in the victims interview. No contraband was found either. Due to a crew transfer in progress at the time of his detainment nothing more could be done. Did you report it to a Head of Department or IAA? If so, who?: The Captain at the time was aware of the developments. Actions taken: The Subject Rako was detained but he was SSD at the time. He was charged for Attempted Murder and sparking a manhunt given the circumstances. Additional Notes:

+1 as I have continuously dealt with his Research Director as the Head of Security. I have no clue how good he is at the science department but he is constantly active on Command radio, responds to requests in a timely manner and does an overall pretty good job at handling the logistics of faxing, alerts and beacon button smashing. He's also the most consistent RD I've seen on dead hours which is pretty important as we always need more command members on during those times.

Ioraks and my character once were in a wizard round where the only way to pacify the Wizard's bloodlust was by taking on medieval Feudal political structures. Naturally as the only other command member I had Ioraks assume Captaincy (King) in which I then roleplayed as his human son (Duke/HoS). We spent a good hour and thirty minutes roleplaying this new dynamic family and organizing the entire crew to take part in the Wizard's 14th century skulduggery of which ended with me throwing the wizard in a pool and hoping they would drown (witches can't swim according to the Malleus Maleficarium). Not that this has any direct influence on the item request it does however show that not only is Geeves a High RPer but Ioraks is also capable of High RP standards. As such I expect Ioraks LARPing as an important member of his clan will go well. I say this as a man who had to RP as his son, so no doubt the rest of engineering will have to do something similar too. +1

Uaine is a very powerful roleplayer and channels potent noodle arm energy. They're also pretty cool person to interact with OOCly and have been v encouraging. +1

Sentiment is precious and their dad has given them an allowance to go out and buy the flowers +1

Let me just be a certified rude boy and summarise the impending responses of men unironically defending this. 'Ah but you see there are a number of things you can do to step around such predicaments that if were actually real options would simply mean we made the change for no reason.'

Probably the worst offence that is yet to be spoken of is this will force the Head of Security to be way more of a frontline trooper. Its hard enough to resist the temptations of personally overseeing all major incidents as it is but in the event there is a pursuit, the HoS will always now have to be on the scene in case they rush maintenance. This is a gameplay change that has absolutely no positive as antags will now more often than not have to deal with the HoS on their tail instead of bumbling officer #302

Brutishcrab beat me up and took my lunch money. He said the only way to get it back was leaving a +1 real talk its pretty good +1

I have mainly interacted with Francois as the Head of Security. This business concerning 'doesn't obey orders' is not actually true, she is quick to question orders she doesn't understand but the moment you raise your voice she complies as you would expect of any Officer. How this even translates to -1 on a command app I have no idea. My character (Khan) has specifically addressed this ICly and I have never had a problem with her questioning his orders since. As it turns out the man in charge has to earn respect before he wields authority like a baton. Security's response to the 'goat cultists' was frankly inadequate, I was there as well as Francois in the Chapel and the entire round they were broadcasting heinous nonsense, for whatever reason Security never dealt with. We however all remained in the bar and out of the way, not wishing to engage in whatever satanic musings the Chaplain was up to. The line was crossed when Feufer called out for help (everyone in the bar knew them) and so the local bar patrons, stood up, decisively outnumbered the 'goat cultists' and took Feufer back and so one of the 'goat cultists' decided to get stabby. This naturally ended in a brawl and somehow despite the fight lasting for several minutes, Security only turned up once two people were dead and the wounded were escorted out. I'm not sure what was going on in the background but its silly to try to -1 an app because people had to intervene due to how overly loud and comically evil you were. As for Peppermint's actual play as a command character it has been swell. I have mainly interacted with their CMO who has displayed an advanced knowledge of medical, has always facilitated RP interactions and I have witnessed her teaching new people how to play which is frankly the principle existence of Heads of Staff (at least OOCly) +1

Ignore the calls for Christianity to get communion wafers and wine. It is canon that any unleavened bread (or leavened bread in the case of extraordinray circumstances, a space station would qualify) can be used as the Eucharist, same with any Wine can be used as the blood of Christ. Simply giving it to Chaplains will stop them from actually going out of their way to cooperate with the Bar and the kitchen to produce these items. The true addition to Christianity would be more and better outfits, especially for Requiem services. Also big hats. Also a book called the 'Code of Canon Law' that just redirects to http://www.vatican.va/archive/cod-iuris-canonici/cic_index_en.html that hosts the Laws so people who claim to be Christian actually realise there are rules concerning the religion. I have always held the opinion that any Christian Chaplain should be the corporate liaison of the Church and run around to those affiliated with him and ensure they aren't being bullied. If they catch a single offence punishable by Canonical Penalty then they should be able to fax the local Bishop with his signature to excommunicate the big loser. If you really want to be 300 IQ big brained make it so that anyone who eats a consecrated host as a non-christian immediately suffers 200 Toxic damage and is rendered uncloneable as his soul is torn apart by demons.

I play HoS and I have seen them consistently and adequately address all logistical issues the department faces. Coordination with all other command members has been good as well and thats all I really need in a Captain. +1

BYOND key: Snake2512 Character names: Jack McKinley (formerly McJacko) and Vance Khan. How long have you been playing on Aurora?: I first joined in early 2018 and took a bit of a break towards November of that same year. I recently returned to play regularly in August of 2019 so I think a solid eight months of consistent play. Why do you wish to be on the whitelist?: I wish to explore a Head of Security character instead of my usual Chaplain routine. Mainly because during the dead hours I play I see 1 million sec officers and no head of security. (Yes, I am perfectly aware we have too many security players and I apologize.) Why did you come to Aurora?: A friend from another hrp server invited me. Have you read the Aurora wiki on the head roles and qualifications you plan on playing?: Yes I have. Vance is over 30, ten years between being a Police Officer and working for the Court Administration Authority in Sol and acquired a Diploma of Crime and Justice Studies from St. John’s Luna University. Have you received any administrative actions? And how serious were they? I have received a few adminpms in the past, the most dire one was warning me not to be so eager to go toe to toe with a Cultist as the Chaplain. Please provide well articulated answers to the following questions in a paragraph each. Give a definition of what you think roleplay is, and should be about: Roleplay in the truest sense of the word is a collaborative story telling effort where each 'player' assumes the role of a main character of some description. These players drive the story onward through their various interactions with the world and all form various integral parts of the overarching plot. Roleplay in the context of ss13 can as a result be hard to perfect as there is technically 30 main characters at any given time and not all of them agree on how the story should proceed. However, fundamentally it should be about a group of people collaborating as various characters to produce an enjoyable and quality story. What do you think the OOC purpose of a Head of Staff is, ingame?: Heads of Staff are an integral part of the ss13 experience, especially if you are new to the game. No matter the character design of the head of staff, they should always be looking to include and drive all players of the game together, ideally through continuous interaction with those who are new to the game itself. They should be experienced in the department, adequate social skills and of an above average roleplay quality all with the principle focus of engaging and entertaining the fresh blood. What do you think the OOC responsibilities of Whitelisted players are to other players, and how would you strive to uphold them?: I sort of touched on this in the above paragraph but their principle responsibility is to provide an example and encouragement to those under them. They are the first line of defence against bad roleplay habits, griefers and other elements that may detract from the overall roleplay experience. They have a responsibility especially to the new players, that they may be given a chance to integrate themselves in the wider culture and learn from the most experienced men. In short, the OOC responsibilities to other players is to provide an ideal example and inclusive roleplay. A fundamental principle in acting this out is being familiar with the wider lore and IC regulations so your interactions with Central Command, aliens, antags etc can set a standard. Could you give us the gist of what is currently happening in Tau ceti and how it affected your character and their career? Vance Khan himself would actually have emigrated from Sol due to a political scandal concerning his employment in the public sector. Tau Ceti's main impact on his career as he would of recently shifted citizenship is not only the culture shock of a new planet to live on but the culture shock of a corporate workplace vs the public sector he is used to. A policeman turned corporate security is by far and wide nothing unique but in combination with various other quirks I hope to entertain other players with the juxtaposition. What roles do you plan on playing after the application is accepted? Head of Security. Perhaps Captain later down the line when I am more familiar with a command role. Characters you intend to use for command or have created for command. Include the job they will be taking.: Vance Khan, Head of Security How would you rate your own roleplaying?:Above average, my emotes suck, my grammar sucks but I like to think I do a really good job at finding the new people on the server and entertaining them. As a Chaplain main Jack's entire job has been completely roleplay fuelled and I believe many have enjoyed their interactions with Jack McKinley. Do you understand your whitelist is not permanent, and may be stripped following continuous administrative action? I do. Have you familiarize yourself with the wiki pages for the command roles? I have. Extra notes: JMJ

i like it

I roleplayed as his stepdad and there were many good times.

+1 a man who actually dedicates his work to fleshing out the existing setting instead of creating irrelevant war hero #4005