Vulcenus

I gotta say out of all the characters listed, I think I only exclusively interacted with Mending Deep Wounds, but I really like the way they're playing their Diona character and it was nothing but funny and memorable interactions. I see no reason you shouldn't deserve a trial spin on command roles, and hope you get one. +1 My only recommendation is for you to tidy up the format a little bit, it's kinda hard on the eyes to read.

I like the grounded progression of Nikita Yutani from Bartender to Quartermaster, and I don't have any doubt their Command characters will also be down to earth and competent. It won't stop me from canon killing the traitor Sol marine expat, though. +1

I've played with Potato for almost 2 years now and I like how they always have a firm grip on the setting and/or the lore of the system/server they're playing on, and their characters are always up to standards, in particular Stella Palmero. They don't shy away from getting mean looks their way just because they're an Eridani suit, and do not compromise from the standards of portraying a realistic suit to appease players. Although Warden isn't particularly a "Command" level leadership spot, I've seen them manage the Security department well at times where it lacks proper guidance, and I'm sure they can successfully integrate into a Command position. +1

+1. Just participated in a round with Danse's Consular character, and I enjoyed his Q&A seminar hosted in the holodeck. He's well versed in the Solarian/Human lore, and can carry his weight as a Command member, player, and roleplayer. Looking forward to further interactions.

Based, +1

this, stop trying to enforce recruitment into your sword gang just because you got slapped by the crew in 2 out of 50 rounds of murderbone cult

Well, I don't really have anything else to bring forward, and I don't really want to push forward for a punishment given the player already acknowledged the situation and how it can rub people off. I would've preferred to handle it in-game through a ticket without making such a big fuss, but we didn't really have the time. Could be archived, honestly.

If it was really a matter of lag, no biggie. I just wanted to adress this since I think it is/was a running thing, as a previous changeling round with your Tajaran had a very limited conversational approach, too. The problem I've got isn't the reasoning behind "why" to kill Petra Volvalaad, but rather getting flashed and thralled in a matter of seconds with only a brief greeting. You did proceed to do the same thing for the next security officer, too.

Hey, Icedcabbage and their characters are pretty fun to interact with. Their antagonist play is also examplary given they don't jump into the fray guns blazing, and opt to prioritize conversation and "roleplay". I think that is, or at least should be, a key element to handling Command. Looking forward to the trial. +1

BYOND Key: Vulcenus Game ID: b8D-cJLu Player Byond Key/Character name: Valkrae Staff involved: None Reason for complaint: Thralling without/bare-minimum RP. I was approached by their character and their thralls, greeted by "Hi, Monday" and got flashed and thralled in a flash. I was then ordered to eliminate the Head of Security and that was all the interaction we've had. I think this was not cool. Did you attempt to adminhelp the issue at the time? If so, what was the known action taken by administration/moderation? No, it was roughly round end and I was busy following the orders of their Vampire, trying to eliminate Petra Volvalaad. Approximate Date/Time: 14/08/2020 - 22:20-35~ GMT+3

I'm devastated by the loss of Officer Beepsky and support this endeavour wholeheartedly

While I disagree that it was cheap, I can see the reasoning behind how demanding a specific paperwork is "inappropriate" given it isn't specified on the faction's wiki page. I still believe it is within reason that Idris Incorporated operates with paperwork regarding debt collection, and suggest an addition to the page/lore, but I'm sure this isn't the place for the said suggestion. The revised note is also appropriate, so I have no further additions.

Hey, thanks. The jump from red to green was not my call, and I wasn't alerted beforehand. I think it was the Captain, though I never got confirmation. Only reason that I didn't raise back to blue was because we recovered the equipment and it'd be silly and hard to explain to the crew who were going "Well, that was fast. Good job".

Hey, I actually started out Aurora in Cargo/Mining as Donald Hays, but given the nature of how things work in Aurora, it grew dull. So yes, I'm not playing other jobs because the Security Department is the one department that enables you to interact with everybody and everything going on inside the round.

That (my remarks) doesn't invalidate that they are Idris Reclamation Units, though. While I'm questioning the validity of the debt collection, I'm still assuming and acting as if they are proper Reclamation Units. Sure, it is making up some head canon to a degree, but the Lore Canonization applications discourage you from applying for reasonable fluff material (such as this, I believe). But that's not the topic of this discussion. Like you said, Idris Incorporated is a megacorporation, and not an illegal organization with a loan sharking front. I already pointed it out in the tickets, and I still disagree with the take that just because Idris employs robots that collect debt through intimitadion and reasonable force, doesn't mean they aren't doing their paperworks. Then again, I believe it's a topic for another discussion. This could've been easily averted by the antagonists by writing something as simple as "Darvan Omega, 7000 Credits, Idris Incorporated" i.e, or an emote by the IPC displaying Darvan Omega's debt on its monitor (as was done by the previous duo using the gimmick). Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying they're supposed to do that, but it's a pretty simple alternative that would've defused the situation. Not to mention the gimmick resumed after this stand-off, with them releasing information on the debtors, as far as I know. Maybe I could use a better wording for "They can't collect your debt without a validation notice" but, again, I still don't think this is shutting down anybody's gimmick or hunting valids at all. Nobody asked any head of staff to fax Central Command or validate their arrival or identity, it's an opposition due to standard procedure, I believe a reasonable one at that, and a valid reason to oppose.

And again, nothing was done to the IRUs based on my suspicions. I also told Security that the IRU did not break any procedures, and it was the ISU that was in breach of corporate regulations by attacking said crew member. Even then, the ISU wasn't arrested for the said action if I'm recalling correctly. Like I said, the questions were not there to poke holes on their gimmick, on the contrary, to involve Security in their gimmick and give them credibility. Of course that was my intention until said ISU was brought in by the other officers. I still fail to see any behaviour that points to validhunting here. As they were Idris debt collectors, I wanted to hook myself and the security into the gimmick but was met with opposition by the ISU, in the form of defending their actions regarding excessive force on the dreg.

I understand that the issue here is not why I'm opposing the characters. But I also did nothing that would warrant saying "grasping all straws I could find to prove they were false", given all I did was asking for ANY kind of document or ANYTHING at all that could've been used for a debt collection, and I've never aired out my opinions on either the common comms channel, or the Security channel, about how the IRUs are fake, wrong or something in the lines, which is, let's be honest, common practice in any given secret round by everyone. Still, all I did was asking the IRUs face to face regarding Omega's debt, and their reasoning regarding striking the non-debtor in the knees. I never acted upon, physically or otherwise, on the knee breaking incident AND the absence of any sort of paperwork or something that could be shown that could make us go: "Hmm, yes, Omega has this amount of debt, and these two are here to collect." Nobody in the room including myself was overtly hostile, if hostile at all, against the IRUs, and all they should've done would be giving an explanation or like the previous IRU couple did, a simple emote that would've "shut down" the situation in a flash. But instead they were standing there arguing about who capped whom's knees and showing me a badge. I would've understood the reasoning behind calling me a validhunter and going out of my way to shut down their gimmicks if I arrested the IRUs, shot them down, threw EMP grenades, yelled on common comms that they're fake Idris employees or anything other than what I've done really, but given that I only questioned the validity of the collection, I don't think this is a proper call. P.S: Although obviously it's not something that can be proven, my main point with the notice was to encourage co-operation instead of thinking of Security as a hostile force to be dealt with, by giving them a foothold of legality by showing me some sort of notice and use me, an Idris Security Officer as an advantage or an aid, like the previous duo who used the same gimmick before them. But they did nothing but opposing and denying that they struck the non-debtor, which honestly ties my hands on any sort of alternative approach.

BYOND Key: Vulcenus Staff BYOND Key: Alberyk Game ID: b8l-acir Reason for complaint: I originally didn't bother to write a complaint on this situation given I didn't know I was being formally noted/warned but after it was mentioned regarding my Command Application, I decided to put this up in order to have it overturned if deemed acceptable. I would like to start with explaining the situation leading to the admin ticket from my perspective. I walked into the station after the antagonists of the round, announced their visit as Idris Reclamation Units in order to collect debts from the crew members, reasoning being heightened presence in the system or something along the lines. After I equipped my gear, I showed up in the Security Lobby and met with the units. They asked me if we had a Vacant Office that they could use, and I led them there. As they were settling in, I asked them who the debtors were and asked them if they made sure to grab their papers for a smooth collection. They brushed me off, told me that they weren't miracle workers. After a brief time had passed, they showed up to the Bar, where I was present with the majority of the Security team given there was a table-fight tournament happening with bets, which had annoyed the Station AI, and it kept sending announcements to stop the said tournament. It was highly populated, given almost half the server population was in there either fighting or observing. Then the IRUs waltz in, and tell Darvan Omega that he owes them around seven thousand credits. Omega plays off their gimmick, and mostly cooperates with them, but a dreg character steps in and protests this collection and the IRUs' presence in here. The IRUs proceed to box them in, and tell them to leave, which they can't, given they're boxed in. Then the ISU pulls out a kneehammer and attacks the dreg character, which isn't related to the debtor and is a non-debtor themselves (which makes the scene sort of suspicious and violates station procedures), and this rallies the entire room to attack the IRUs. As the crew is about to lynch the IRU couple after throwing EMP grenades and sort of neutralizing them, making them unable to fight back, the Security officers take initiative to detain the IRUs for their own protection and bring them back to the Lobby in order to talk about the incident. After we got them to safety, we started questioning the incident and their involvement in it. Being an Idris Incorporated officer with knowledge of Reclamation operations outside the station, I ask them if their validation notices/letters are with them, and they respond to this by showing me their badges. Given the misunderstanding, I explain them what a validation letter is, saying it's the paperwork for debt collection (used by Banks and private firms in real life), informing them that it has the debtor's name, the amount owed, and the creditor's name seeking payment written on it, so they could give me an explanation or fake the papers or something, but instead I was adminhelped for "shutting down their gimmick" after committing suspicious actions in the round. The same gimmick was done just a day ago, with another couple of IRUs showing up to collect a debt from Ian White. They wanted to collect his organs for payment and actually requested our cooperation involving the collection, along with a ISU that was with me at the time. They make a simple emote displaying the information of the debt contract on their IPC monitor, and this was enough for us to "enable" their gimmick and move on from there. We proceeded to actively seek out and help the IRUs involved in this until, just like the second incident, they hurt a non-debtor crew member, and we had to detain them for it. All in all, I believe writing a note regarding "doing my best to shut down antag gimmicks" and "validhunty behaviour" was uncalled for. Evidence/logs/etc: Additional remarks: Not really

Hello. I didn't know I had that many notes regarding apparently "validy behaviour" which is funny, since I've been accused of not paying attention to antagonists enough (by taking my time to interact with other crew members outside security in a not overtly, if at all hostile situations), previously. I'm fairly certain whenever I got adminhelped by an antagonist or somebody who didn't find my approach "correct" or "called for" I was able to explain myself and my reasoning behind my actions pretty clear and reasonably, and I will gladly repeat myself, if you can give me examples of instances where my actions as a security officer was "validy". I also don't believe you can measure this sort of thing basing it off of actions done by a security officer without seeing how I do as a command member, and given the amount of frontlining command members already within the ranks, I don't think a 7 day trial will be a doomsday scenario for anyone involved.

Sure, of course, I'm not saying that. I'm also not saying I did not read it. I skimmed through it given the Head of Security section is really nothing but one way of doing things, which I don't really necessarily need, because I disagree with how most things work inside the Security and how it's ran by the majority of the rank-holders. I did read about the Finances section of the Captain page, as well as the Corporate Regulations and Standard Operating Procedure pages that I believe are tied to the job, just not the job page itself. Thus, I'm saying I skimmed over them, because most of the things written in there are common knowledge and/or things that can easily be done with common sense. Don't get me wrong. I also agree that Command roles are mostly stressful occupations, and Head of Security being the most and the tankiest of stress of all, and I'm pretty sure I can handle the stress given I've ran squads of incompetent explorers and the Exploration department for around two years (again, not to say I know all things Command related, just putting it out there given the circumstances) in Baystation, so I'd say I'm sort of knowledgeable on how to run things under stress and manage crises.

I'm gonna have to respectfully disagree with your opinion, and if you can give me examples regarding this "overly-aggressive to antags and shutting down an antag's gimmicks" behaviour, I believe I can explain it very well. Still, each to their own, I suppose. Also, just being truthful there. Given the current holders of Command whitelists, I'm pretty sure more than half of them didn't even bother to skim through it. They are (the wiki pages) acting as guides for the respective roles, and I don't believe I need to study and memorize the entire page to play the roles properly. I'm fairly sure I can carry myself pretty well. Thanks for the input.

I can attest to ryog's ability to form proper englesh sentences and somehow make them funny, as I witnessed by mainly interacting with Lyhia Kyosa. Though I didn't get to interact much, if at all, with her Diona and Unathi characters, I know that she spends time researching the lore behind the race and coming up with unique concepts for her characters, and I'm confident this one isn't different, either. I'm just curious about how the switch from colourful weebs to soulless machines is gonna pan out. +1

I was thinking out loud "why would we need keys for something that's rarely used" when I saw the topic title but this makes a lot of sense, coupled with Carver's suggestion to reinforce the barricades somehow, I think the barricades would see the light of day more often when something along the lines of this suggestion is implemented. I try to create barricades more often than not in hostile scenarios between the crew, myself and the antagonists but honestly either the barricades are too easy to run over, not easily accessible or easily destructible. Maybe not as robust as a riot glass, but more endurable barricades with exclusive activation/deactivation mechanisms would be useful.