Garnascus

The reality is there is more discussion and complaints regarding genetics than the effect genetics ever actually has on rounds. Its already incredibly boring, time consuming, and RNG based to get powers and a large portion of them are undetectable unless you inject yourself to see what they are. Why do we need their to be mechanical repercussions to powers? It would be one thing if atags where constantly getting robusted by Dr. Xavier's institute of mutants but... That rarely happens. You have on average as a geneticist 2 to three hours to play with getting powers and that's assuming you make a beeline for the gene lab and have no trouble getting hyronalin to speed up research. Also genetic defects are a thing. Blindness is the only one you can test for and then its hoping you get lucky to find out which block that one is too. By the the time you get enough powers an hour or more of the round has passed if you're lucky and then you have to repeat it all next round. The frustration people may feel by the presence of these powers pales in comparison to what its actually like being a geneticist. The RP and indeed the mechanical repercussions are enough to serve as limiters. Also your suggestion on adding "powers" to mitigate the defect check. Literally nobody would test it as you say as they would serve to artificially lengthen and increase the already absurd amount of luck and time required.

"its look like you're trying to assume control of the station, need a little help?" while we are at it lets give all AI players the ability to play midis. what could go wrong?

holy FUCK yes. can we PLEASE? I still catch myself coming to tears in laughter from playing HoS and tell cadets to "bring me that crate". BRING BACK CRATEY!!

That sounds pretty reasonable to me, lets wait for gollee's reply to see what he has to say.

Appeal accepted, your ban has been lifted.

Im fine with lifting your ban so long as this sort of thing isnt repeated. at the very least if you ever think you might have IC justification to do something you should ahelp about it and ask. there have been times we have let things slide as long as people ask permission.

I mean hes not /wrong/ in saying an admin/mod or something should be contacted but... I think its important to examine intent first before you enforce a rule and i really feel like you weren't stepping over the line here.

the mechanics and ease of getting in are irrelevant here. its straight up against the rules for a non-antag barring SEVERE extenuating circumstances. You are free to do it whenever you are an antag. You may feel justified doing this as a non-antag but the bottom line is its straight up against server rules, no debate is going to solve that.

Having a criminal backround is fine, even using that as an excuse to commit a SMALL crime every now and again is also fine. Using it as an excuse to break into one of the most secure places on the station and commit grand theft is NOT fine. you would be terminated from employment because of this and sent to prison because of that. do you understand why we limit this kind of thing to our antags? If everyone on the server is looking for opportunity to horribly breach corporate regulations and do stuff like this then we cant really call ourselves a high-rp server.

Hey man, if i recall during this incident. you werent antag at the time so this is unfortunately INCREDIBLY over the line and coupled with your history at the time i felt a perma-ban was justified. What do you think self-antagging is now? why do you think its so over the line for a non-antag to break into the captains office and steal items?

Only an admin would have had the power to do that for you, mods cant. either an admin didn't notice the ahelp or there wasn't one on at the time. Also ahelping for help with RP isnt even close to ahelping about a problem you had with the player doing it in the first place. If you had ahelped that you werent happy with what alberyk had done to you then we might have been able to go from their.

Hello, I have been keeping my eye on this player for a bit. a little bit before and after the complaint started. I have examined and looked at each and every piece of evidence, consulted with his notes/warnings history. When i initially told Madpredar3 of this complaint against him in-game he seemed to me to be feel quite bad about him perhaps ruining fun or rounds for other players. He posted a swift reply and of some of the things posted here that he has warnings to i feel he has given a decent explanation to the charges levied against him. Most importantly of all though, let me be clear. If this where another player its entirely possible they would have been banned by now. In this case the player has done an exceptional job of communicating with me and other staff through ahelps about "is it wrong to X or should i have done Y or is it fun for people to Z". I am beyond convinced that he has shown a willingness and a desire to improve the more sour parts of his play and i really dont think he will be a problem in the future. I think intent behind actions is incredibly important and its a large part of what made me decide this. i also asked the opinions of other staff in msay about this and no objections where raised. Obviously an eye will be kept on him still and i intend to explain this to him fully and hope he continues to ahelp about things hes unsure of (like anyone should).

ban techno first IMO!

Nah, not much for me to say that others havent said. I think its an important risk to engaging in combat and another layer you have to consider when you go hacking doors or get into lasers fights.

do not even try to paint this like we are playing favorites here. You made a CHARACTER COMPLAINT with evidence of a /single instance/ of screwing around. what do you want us to do? crucify him? strip him of his whitelist? we dont just hand those punishments out willy nilly. ive said here that this issue would have been much better handled by asking nicely in LOOC for him to stop while you are still roleplaying. Or if i had seen it i would have asked alberyk to not do that to others still RPin as it can be kinda immersion breaking.

Alberyk isn't my buddy, nor would it affect my defending him if he was. This is not even close to as big a deal you are making it to be, plain and simple. It would be one thing if this character did this a whole bunch through multiple rounds but as it stands you are making a complaint over him doing it once. This also seems to me like it could have been solved a whole lot easier if you tried saying in LOOC something along the lines of "hey man I know you"re joking but I'm still roleplayin here" or if is been on i would have tried to reason some sort amicable solution for you both.

I am one hundred percent against altering the holodeck atoms simulation in any form other than altering the ease of which it can be accessed. I think its healthy for game design to have something one or two catastrophically lethal things in the game that severely alter the rest of the round.

Yeah this complaint is a bit nit picky if I'm being totally honest. I would have to perma ban half the server if one small instance like this was "truly unacceptable". Yes we are a high role-play server but at the end of the day this is a game and we are here to have fun. Forcing our players into a 100% super serious workplace all the time isn't what I think is healthy for the server.

As this has been handled, locking and archiving.

Well no and in fact I'm a little confused. From the explicit warning of our rule regarding EOR you should have been fine continuing conflict in disposals and cargo. Either there is more to this you aren't telling me or xelnaga made an error in banning you. You said you weren't PMed? Did the round restart normally and you found out you where banned that way?

Right but WHERE did you kill him? What RP was there?

End-round grief is punishable by an automatic 3-day ban. The moment the shuttle docks with the station, all conflict is expected to end in and around the shuttle boarding area. (Escape and adjacent corridor). No conflict is allowed on Central Command, after shuttle arrival. You said this occurred in disposals? Did you log immediately after or something? Where did you initially kill the security officer at?

These are some strong allegations, ill let madpredator know if I see him there is a complaint against him as I would like to hear his side.

I've been thinking about this a lot. I think there is some merit to providing a little transparency. I'm particularly inclined to informing the player who whelped the issue that X was warned or banned for Y but I'm not entirely sure anything past that would have a net positive gain for the server. Perhaps simply displaying a number at the end of round like X players where warned and Y players where banned? It might provide some clarity to the community that we are doing things while keeping exactly who was punished and for what strictly confidential between the responding staff member and the parties that whelped the problem.

I think expecting nuke ops to surrender corpses and not hoard them is a bit silly in this situation. otherwise they just get cloned and they have to deal with an eternal army of soldiers rushing at them. Bombing the AI and the armory is something you are almost forced to do as a nuke op team. or you have to fight an even more uphill battle against an AI who will scream over comms where you are and security running around with laser guns hunting you. I wasnt paying attention the ENTIRE round outside of handling lyar's ahelp but honestly nothing jumps out to me as being over the line.