Kaed Posted August 28, 2019 Posted August 28, 2019 I'm really sleepy but thought up this idea. You know how shrapnel is basically a death sentence to any antagonist because they can't get surgery? Well, Skull changed them to only deal pain damage, but they're still crippling if you can't do surgery, but what if. What if you could pull the shrapnel out with an ad hoc device made from common station materials. Get a metal rod(s) Wrap a wire coil around it (15-20 cable idk) Attach a battery to the wires and coils Attach an incomplete switchblade or a metal knife to to it Fish around in your guts or limbs for the shrapnel with the sharp object, which magnetizes the shrapnel to it and lets you pull it out (this deals some uncomfortable brute damage but it's better than having shrapnel in it) Use a medkit to treat your new bleeding wound, free of the shrapnel Thoughts?
Pratepresidenten Posted August 28, 2019 Posted August 28, 2019 I love it. More ghetto shit please, it is the lifeblood of scrappers
Resilynn Posted August 28, 2019 Posted August 28, 2019 (edited) Iiiiiii think if we do anything like this, we need to somehow make it exclusive to antags. I can just see cargo doing ghetto magnet surgery in the warehouse. Also, as a general note. We need to stop making it so hard to die. Gunshots SHOULD be a serious wound. I understand they currently fuck over antags much worse than crew members and agree that should be balanced, but we keep making death increasingly difficult and it’s getting a little silly. I survived five gunshots to the head and walked myself to medical a couple weeks ago. Edited August 28, 2019 by Resilynn
MattAtlas Posted August 28, 2019 Posted August 28, 2019 20 minutes ago, Resilynn said: Iiiiiii think if we do anything like this, we need to somehow make it exclusive to antags. I can just see cargo doing ghetto magnet surgery in the warehouse. Also, as a general note. We need to stop making it so hard to die. Gunshots SHOULD be a serious wound. I understand they currently fuck over antags much worse than crew members and agree that should be balanced, but we keep making death increasingly difficult and it’s getting a little silly. I survived five gunshots to the head and walked myself to medical a couple weeks ago. People dying easily, while realistic, does not mesh with HRP. People do not want to die and reject the very idea of dying. I agree with you, but it's best to leave these pipe dreams in the drawer. Also, hardlocking shit to being for antags is a terrible idea. I was considering adding very painful shrapnel removal with a knife too, might look into this when I'm home.
LordPwner Posted August 28, 2019 Posted August 28, 2019 This could be super cool, but much like ghetto surgery have a chance to really fuck you over, like just stabbing yourself and you get none of it out. This way you'd still rather get the surgery the right way.. But I kinda have to agree with Resi. Dying is hard. When Uriel was taken hostage in an auto traitor round was shot twice in the back of the head and it didn even do damage really. Just gave minor brute. But yeah would love to see this!
Kaed Posted August 28, 2019 Author Posted August 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Resilynn said: Iiiiiii think if we do anything like this, we need to somehow make it exclusive to antags. I can just see cargo doing ghetto magnet surgery in the warehouse. Also, as a general note. We need to stop making it so hard to die. Gunshots SHOULD be a serious wound. I understand they currently fuck over antags much worse than crew members and agree that should be balanced, but we keep making death increasingly difficult and it’s getting a little silly. I survived five gunshots to the head and walked myself to medical a couple weeks ago. 2 hours ago, LordPwner said: This could be super cool, but much like ghetto surgery have a chance to really fuck you over, like just stabbing yourself and you get none of it out. This way you'd still rather get the surgery the right way.. But I kinda have to agree with Resi. Dying is hard. When Uriel was taken hostage in an auto traitor round was shot twice in the back of the head and it didn even do damage really. Just gave minor brute. But yeah would love to see this! While I don't disagree with you that being shot in the head and walking away is stupid, that's an entirely different subject from shrapnel mechanics. I just want to give people an option other than crawling to medical to get surgery and getting gangbanged and dragged off by security (possibly before surgery depending on how shit they are about prisoner rights). I don't plan to make it an appealing alternative so much as a desperate one with nasty consequences. Options open.
Naelynn Posted August 28, 2019 Posted August 28, 2019 I mean, if ya'll are saying that this is a easy way to 'get away' with shrapnel, consider all the following: You're going to get infection from that 99% of the time you're probably going to cause IB in the process The thing itself will take fucking long to do you're going to lose a lot of blood doing this And finally: How the fck are you going to close the wound. If you're ghettoing this, you probably don't have normal cautery so.. lighter. So... MORE BURN DAMAGE.
Kaed Posted August 28, 2019 Author Posted August 28, 2019 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Naelynn said: I mean, if ya'll are saying that this is a easy way to 'get away' with shrapnel, consider all the following: You're going to get infection from that 99% of the time you're probably going to cause IB in the process The thing itself will take fucking long to do you're going to lose a lot of blood doing this And finally: How the fck are you going to close the wound. If you're ghettoing this, you probably don't have normal cautery so.. lighter. So... MORE BURN DAMAGE. In all fairness, this probably won't be a proper surgical procedure so much as just stabbing yourself with a magnetic knife and fishing. Gauze and Band-Aids is just barely sufficient for meatball surgery like this. Edited August 28, 2019 by Kaed
Hendricks Posted August 29, 2019 Posted August 29, 2019 Yes please. Doctors always seem to miss some leading to all round red messages.
Resilynn Posted August 29, 2019 Posted August 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Hendricks said: Yes please. Doctors always seem to miss some leading to all round red messages. I am 100% sure you would be bwoinked for doing this to yourself as a non antag.
Mogelix Posted September 3, 2019 Posted September 3, 2019 This is good, as i really dont like the 'round ending shrapnel' drivel, aslong as its a antag thing only. On 29/08/2019 at 02:46, Naelynn said: I mean, if ya'll are saying that this is a easy way to 'get away' with shrapnel, consider all the following: You're going to get infection from that 99% of the time you're probably going to cause IB in the process The thing itself will take fucking long to do you're going to lose a lot of blood doing this And finally: How the fck are you going to close the wound. If you're ghettoing this, you probably don't have normal cautery so.. lighter. So... MORE BURN DAMAGE. stop overthinking it its ghetto surgery you can propose those be added as downsides if you want. we also already have loads of unrealistic but good for roleplay mechanics.
MattAtlas Posted September 3, 2019 Posted September 3, 2019 https://github.com/Aurorastation/Aurora.3/pull/6940/files Not electromagnets but it will do.
Spider Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 This probably sounds better as an uplink item or traitor gear rather than being something you can haphazardly put together imho.
GreenBoi Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, Spider said: This probably sounds better as an uplink item or traitor gear rather than being something you can haphazardly put together imho. You're using a knife to get rid of pain-causing shrapnel while also causing a lot of pain in the process. It's pretty fine, plus it allows revs to have a better, faster way of getting rid of shrapnel than hoping the person understands ghetto surgery
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