[Denied] HunterRS's Whitelist App. (New Characters and shiz)

[HunterRS]

BYOND key: HunterRS

Character names: Edgar Dawnguard, Katelyn Black, Katherine Nickolson, Marcus Aquila, Athena AI, Athena Android, Tribune AI.

How long have you been playing on Aurora?: About 4 months since I rejoined

Why do you wish to be on the whitelist?: I would like to be on the whitelist because I feel like I would be a good RD because I have had multiple shifts where I am the interim RD and it worked out well

Why did you come to Aurora?: I came on Aurora because I was bored and looking for a server to stick too

Have you read the BS12 wiki on the head roles you plan on playing?: Of course

Please provide well articulated answers to the following questions in a paragraph each.

Give a definition of what you think roleplay is, and should be about: Roleplay is the interaction of two or more peoples characters that they create. Roleplay is fun for all and it shouldn't be a thing to get mad about. After all it's just a game. Roleplay should be fun for all parties, and it shouldn't add OOC sources to changed characters. If a character doesn't like it they should ask for help during it.

What do you think the OOC purpose of a Head of Staff is, ingame?: My old one if you want to read it along with what I said before

I think the purpose of heads of staff are to keep their department running and active, and in the case of an emergency, be an acting captain to deal with a threat. The heads of staff should be able to stay calm during crisis situations and be able to control the station if needed to. Heads of staff should be able to be trusted by the people and be friendly. They should be supposed to be looked upon but all members of thier department and be someone to ask for new people if they have and questions like how to work toxins so they don't kill everyone. OOC Wise I think they should be able to stay calm in most situations and be able to help people in OOC when needed. If they have questions they should be able to ask questions

I feel like the OOC purpose ingame of a head of staff person is to help anyone that needs help OOC or offer help at any time. They should be able to take the initiative on helping people and able to stop any drama that happens (which doesn't always happen). If this isn't what you think I am think I am reading this wrong.

What do you think the OOC responsibilities of Whitelisted players are to other players, and how would you strive to uphold them?: I think the OOC responsibilities of whitelisted players are to stay calm and not get upset. Whitelisted players should be a role model for people to look up to. I would uphold these because I am mostly calm unless you get me mad, which is really hard. I like to help people around and show them if they don't understand.

Please pick one of your characters for this section, and provide well articulated responses to the following questions.

Character name: Katelyn Black

Character age: 36

Please provide a short biography of this character (approx 2 paragraphs): Katelyn was born in Mendell city in 2423, as an only child. She was taught many lessons about how to always earn what you do, and not cheat people out. Going into high school she wanted to be a biochemical engineer, but biology, chemistry and medicine caught her interest and she decided to go to med school. Going to med school in 2441 for over 7 years, she graduated with a Medical Docter PhD with a specialization in chemistry and medicine in 2448

After she graduated she worked at a hospital in Mendell city, working her way up and leading surgeons, teaching new interns, and helping patients. There working she met her now fiancee, Dr. James Shields. Together they worked through hundreds of surgeries. She worked there and became one of the most trustworthy doctors in the hospital. She worked there for 9 years before being offered a position aboard the NSS Exodus. She accepted the position and has been working there for 2 years.

Over the time of her work, she has seen many gruesome deaths and injuries, where she has had to treat and fix. She promised to herself never to make things violent.

What do you like about this character?: She is a trustworthy figure and is able to lead groups, she works hard and pays attention when needed.

What do you dislike about this character?: She is a pacifist and will not fight back, even If her life is at risk. The one time I see her fighting is when she has to.

What do you think makes this character fit to be a head of staff?: They are dependable and are able to lead a department. Also She is able to guide new interns in the field

Please provide well articulated answers to the following questions.

How would you rate your own roleplaying?: I think my roleplaying had gotten better over the few months I was gone and that I am here to stay now.

Extra notes:

Edited January 24, 2017 by Guest

[TishinaStalker]

(New Characters and shiz)

Character name: Edgar Dawnguard

 

I'm confused.

[HunterRS]

(New Characters and shiz)

Character name: Edgar Dawnguard

 

I'm confused.

The other 6 ish names

[sebkillerDK]

(New Characters and shiz)

Character name: Edgar Dawnguard

 

I'm confused.

 

same here? Edgar Dawnguard is your Scientist? not a new character?

[Pratepresidenten]

"New character" implies you're applying for a head position with a different character, not that you've added more characters you play. Maybe you should edit it out, or perhaps apply for another character?

[Synnono]

I think what Hunter was trying to say in the title is that they have played a few other characters now. I'm not sure what impact this is supposed to have on Edgar re-re-re-re-applying for the RD position, however. With the exception of one, I'm also not sure who any of these characters are, or what sort of impact they could have had on Hunter's writing/attitude in the few weeks it's been.

Aside from seeing the character occasionally get angry or start a fight, or selling RnD products retail from the lab desk, I don't often see roleplay that characterizes Edgar. From the IC standpoint of any scientist I'd play, I'm not sure why he should be my boss, or why he even wants to be that in the first place. The play I see from him in the game is not typically consistent with what I see written in the application, though that could be due to the player enjoying antagonist roles.

Otherwise, OOC thoughts on this application are already written down in the handful of other threads. In the time between the last application and this one, I was asked by Hunter to give them feedback on their play and their character, and in my opinion most of it was summarily ignored or argued away. I don't imagine things have changed in the 2-3 weeks it's been since the last application was closed.

Edited January 24, 2017 by Guest

[HunterRS]

Yes i play new characters, Edgar is still the one going to RD, but i have started playing characters not in the mindset of head of staff, and synnono, i have noticed what you said, and i have changed it, the retail thing was a could day thing, we dont do it anymore, old dead meme. In my character, Edgar is a RD on other stations, but is on break on the Exodus.

[Dreviore]

Hunter if I may.

Write your app from the perspective of a new character, it'll save you a lot of hassle.

Also focus on developing your current characters, from who they interact with, to how your characters handle situations.

[HunterRS]

Hunter if I may.

Write your app from the perspective of a new character, it'll save you a lot of hassle.

Also focus on developing your current characters, from who they interact with, to how your characters handle situations.

The reason why that won't work, is because all my characters aren't in the mindset for head of staff, the oldest is 29.

[Dreviore]

Hunter if I may.

Write your app from the perspective of a new character, it'll save you a lot of hassle.

Also focus on developing your current characters, from who they interact with, to how your characters handle situations.

The reason why that won't work, is because all my characters aren't in the mindset for head of staff, the oldest is 29.

 

Increase their age. I bumped my classic Daniel Seraph from 32 to 45 for the case of being at an age I felt was somewhat appropriate for an RD.

[HunterRS]

Hunter if I may.

Write your app from the perspective of a new character, it'll save you a lot of hassle.

Also focus on developing your current characters, from who they interact with, to how your characters handle situations.

The reason why that won't work, is because all my characters aren't in the mindset for head of staff, the oldest is 29.

 

Increase their age. I bumped my classic Daniel Seraph from 32 to 45 for the case of being at an age I felt was somewhat appropriate for an RD.

I want to keep them younger for the RP. Most old characters I see dont talk alot.

[Owen]

I want to keep them younger for the RP. Most old characters I see dont talk alot.

 

Just going to point this out, having older characters definitely does not mean that they do not talk a lot. It may even be in your best interest to make an older, more mature character that is there to get the business done and doesn't goof off all the time. That would help you get your application through. Based off of the amount of times that you were denied, I feel that a good portion of the community would not like to see Edgar Dawnguard as a head of staff.

And out of all of these "new" characters. I've seen Athena more in the recent days and I've seen Tribune maaaybe one or two times. The other characters on that list, I have not seen whatsoever and I feel that you are just making characters to add to your list of names to say that you've made more. You really should expand your horizons from just purely focusing on Dawnguard. Try other departments, maybe those that interact with much more of the crew more often. Try being a bartender or a chef. RP will come to you then if you feel that no one wants to RP with your characters.

This is a process that will take time and effort on your part to prove to the community that you've crafted a character that is good enough to be a head of staff.

[HunterRS]

I want to keep them younger for the RP. Most old characters I see dont talk alot.

 

Just going to point this out, having older characters definitely does not mean that they do not talk a lot. It may even be in your best interest to make an older, more mature character that is there to get the business done and doesn't goof off all the time. That would help you get your application through. Based off of the amount of times that you were denied, I feel that a good portion of the community would not like to see Edgar Dawnguard as a head of staff.

And out of all of these "new" characters. I've seen Athena more in the recent days and I've seen Tribune maaaybe one or two times. The other characters on that list, I have not seen whatsoever and I feel that you are just making characters to add to your list of names to say that you've made more. You really should expand your horizons from just purely focusing on Dawnguard. Try other departments, maybe those that interact with much more of the crew more often. Try being a bartender or a chef. RP will come to you then if you feel that no one wants to RP with your characters.

This is a process that will take time and effort on your part to prove to the community that you've crafted a character that is good enough to be a head of staff.

I understand, Edgar is that kinda of person who wants to get stuff done, he always has. And i have played bartender, that is one of my characters. The others are a chemist and officer. I understand people don't want me as head of staff but I've had rp as different characters as my old characters being ignored and such, while my young ones were actually talked to.

I know Edgar is a meme at this point and i will keep trying.. as hard as I can... to do this.

[Owen]

I understand, Edgar is that kinda of person who wants to get stuff done, he always has. And i have played bartender, that is one of my characters. The others are a chemist and officer. I understand people don't want me as head of staff but I've had rp as different characters as my old characters being ignored and such, while my young ones were actually talked to.

I know Edgar is a meme at this point and i will keep trying.. as hard as I can... to do this.

 

Okay. You claim time and time again that Edgar is the person who wants to get stuff done yet whenever I see him ICly, he doesn't seem very serious about his job or what he is doing. He does seem like one of those characters that wouldn't be leading a department. At this point, am not supporting this application if you are going to have Edgar as a RD.

New ideas are needed. And I question that length of the roleplay that you've tried with new characters. Start fresh, purely play that character for like a week or so, if they are good, people will start to notice.

When I first started with Auralia, she was a throwaway character because I wanted to see how a lighter skinned white Skrell would look. I just so happened to play her time and time again for a while and people started recognizing her and appreciating (or not) the roleplay that went on. Now she is one of my more recognizable characters.

I say that you should start fresh with a brand new character, not throw out that it is you and just roleplay. Maybe for a week. Keep playing as that character, develop their story, where they are from, their family, how they think, what their opinions on random shit are. Once you start thinking about how they would think, your ability to roleplay will improve drastically. You should get in the mindset that your character is a real person and do things that a real person would do. You just need to put in the time and effort, it'll come eventually.

[HunterRS]

I understand, Edgar is that kinda of person who wants to get stuff done, he always has. And i have played bartender, that is one of my characters. The others are a chemist and officer. I understand people don't want me as head of staff but I've had rp as different characters as my old characters being ignored and such, while my young ones were actually talked to.

I know Edgar is a meme at this point and i will keep trying.. as hard as I can... to do this.

 

Okay. You claim time and time again that Edgar is the person who wants to get stuff done yet whenever I see him ICly, he doesn't seem very serious about his job or what he is doing. He does seem like one of those characters that wouldn't be leading a department. At this point, am not supporting this application if you are going to have Edgar as a RD.

New ideas are needed. And I question that length of the roleplay that you've tried with new characters. Start fresh, purely play that character for like a week or so, if they are good, people will start to notice.

When I first started with Auralia, she was a throwaway character because I wanted to see how a lighter skinned white Skrell would look. I just so happened to play her time and time again for a while and people started recognizing her and appreciating (or not) the roleplay that went on. Now she is one of my more recognizable characters.

I say that you should start fresh with a brand new character, not throw out that it is you and just roleplay. Maybe for a week. Keep playing as that character, develop their story, where they are from, their family, how they think, what their opinions on random shit are. Once you start thinking about how they would think, your ability to roleplay will improve drastically. You should get in the mindset that your character is a real person and do things that a real person would do. You just need to put in the time and effort, it'll come eventually.

 

I've played edgar for a while, he cares about everything involving his job and work, idk where you got what you got, but I'm sorry you think that way. I understand.

[Scheveningen]

You just had an application denied two weeks ago. Did you even PM Tish to find out why?

You changed nothing in the past two weeks. No. -1

[Faris]

I'm hesitant to support this application, last time I did I mentioned that you should play other roles more often before using your other head characters, specifically your Security "Ashley Dawnguard" whom I did say did not have enough experience or knowledge about corporate regulations, which you did not follow and it resulted in your white list for command to be revoked. Furthermore, Dawnguard is a scientist I frequently see violating directive four and taking scientific equipment outside of the lab, which is outright not permitted unless it was an emergency or approved, usually required by the RD or in the absence, other command members. Finally, I'll be honest in saying that I've lost count of how many application have been done for Edgar, why don't you follow the advice of the people here and make a new command suitable character? You can still play Edgar as RD once it gets accepted.

So with all these pointers in mind, why should I support this particular application when it's essentially the same one as the previous ones with the only difference is the new additions to your characters?

[HunterRS]

I'm hesitant to support this application, last time I did I mentioned that you should play other roles more often before using your other head characters, specifically your Security "Ashley Dawnguard" whom I did say did not have enough experience or knowledge about corporate regulations, which you did not follow and it resulted in your white list for command to be revoked. Furthermore, Dawnguard is a scientist I frequently see violating directive four and taking scientific equipment outside of the lab, which is outright not permitted unless it was an emergency or approved, usually required by the RD or in the absence, other command members. Finally, I'll be honest in saying that I've lost count of how many application have been done for Edgar, why don't you follow the advice of the people here and make a new command suitable character? You can still play Edgar as RD once it gets accepted.

So with all these pointers in mind, why should I support this particular application when it's essentially the same one as the previous ones with the only difference is the new additions to your characters?

I understand your concern, and i don't really remember what i take out of science besides the rped which is used normally.

I also am working on a backstory and stuff for another of my characters during today in school, and i will edit it later.

Thank you abo

[HunterRS]

Just changed out the character I am hoping to get. I will start playing them more and more now.

[Bath Salts Addict]

I'd like to show you something.

 

These are Edgar Dawnguard's records. He is currently 38 at the time I took this screenshot. If my math is correct, he started his education at around 15-16 years of age. Interesting. Not only that, but nowhere does it indicate he is qualified to operate the RnD lab, yet every time at roundstart he rushes to the RnD lab to try and max out the levels as fast as he possibly can.

This would be a -1 from me.

[sonicgotnuked]

I'd like to show you something.

These are Edgar Dawnguard's records. He is currently 38 at the time I took this screenshot. If my math is correct, he started his education at around 15-16 years of age. Interesting. Not only that, but nowhere does it indicate he is qualified to operate the RnD lab, yet every time at roundstart he rushes to the RnD lab to try and max out the levels as fast as he possibly can.

This would be a -1 from me.

 

But it does state that he works RnD.

[HunterRS]

I've made sure this is all good, he started right after high school, he got interships halfway through both of his education, allowing him to have more experience. I've asked staff and they say it works.

[Bath Salts Addict]

I've made sure this is all good, he started right after high school, he got interships halfway through both of his education, allowing him to have more experience. I've asked staff and they say it works.

I'm not sure what it's like where you're from, but in most places you can't finish high school at 16. You can drop out at 16, yes, but you'd never be able to get a post-secondary without finishing high school and no job would ever take an applicant seriously if they were a high school drop out, unless it was fast food.

Edgar Dawnguard would make a good Space fry cook, but he'd never be able to get even an internship anywhere, let alone a post-secondary education.

But it does state that he works RnD.

 

How'd he even get started without qualifications?

[HunterRS]

Working in Robotics and Xenobiology has parts of working RnD. If you got a PhD in Surgery, do you not think you would be taught how to do basic medical procedures?

And the ages comes out at him being 17-18, To make things easy for me to remember, he shares my birthday and I am a young person in my grade.

[ClearThoughts]

I think Edgar is useful to have as a researcher, not quite sure he'd do well as an RD. I just dont see him with the administrative abilities.

-1 from me, needs improvement on in-character attitude and personality development. An RD is a Research Director, an administrator and overwatch to ensure Directive 4 is both protected and enforced, and to act in the best intentions of both SCIENCE! and NanoTrasen. This, however, is not achieved by just being an amazing researcher.