sonicgotnuked

Alright, I'll reduce your ban to a warning after you explained to me. Don't try to abuse the cargo tug, build baseball bats without good reason, and generally try to mess with people. This is a HRP server which means even at round end you still have to play and act reasonable. Do me a favor and read the rules because anything further will result in further action. Locking and Archiving

The syntax exsists for most functions. The wiki doesn't really explain anything though and there's not formatting compile errors.

I did give you about ten minutes to reconnect before I banned you. Can you explain that?

Then I will remove the powergaming of Diona mechanics in general from your ban. I will still hold by the fact of gank due to the disregard and lack of demands towards medical. Telling the Research Director indirectly that engineering will pay is very vague will not be interpreted by anyone that the medical staff are to immediately stop treating them. There is still a point of powergaming with the soporific since you didn't have the escalation to kill all of the engineers in medical. Some where asleep and continued to be asleep. The one you told he'd pay face to face? Sure. The couple others were in comas basically and got the same hatchet treatment. People were sedated for over 30 minutes. The doctors were not ignoring you. There was no demands given to them, hence, they ran, with their patients. You can't really expect them to understand that you're not attacking medical as a whole when you're tossing AOE weapons at individuals throughout the entirety of medical. The round time doesn't matter in this situation due to the lack of escalation. That said, the engineers can be further discussed if there was enough escalation to kill them. Medical on the other hand did not have the proper escalation due to the lack of demands for doctors to not treat them. You basically ran in throwing plants and punished them when they reacted by running. They never had clear demands. As for the warning, it was applied 2020-04-03 10:03:45 by @Shadow7889

Sorry I was unclear due to my massive headache at the time. I said to make a staff complaint if you disagree. It'll give an opportunity to relook over my own decision and a deeper look. But I still am in standing with what I decided. This was an antagonist ban due to the severity of the situation and rampant powergaming that involved using the xenobotany mechanics to mass murder people with super healing. I decided at the end a permanent antagonistic ban would provide you the necessary point. This really was not enjoyable for anyone involved in the situation, for context, due to some people being sedated for over 20 minutes while medical got hit with the cross fire. 1) There was really no clear cut point you were trying to make to all the engineers. From what I gathered, you sedated them, and immediately tried to murder them in medical with a few more lines of dialog towards one person. Some engineers were left sedated for over 20 minutes due to the amount of soporific flying around medical. 2) It is natural for doctors to protect their patients by bringing them to safety. You made zero demands for medical to not treat these people. They really were not involved in any role play, and from what I gathered from the CMO, you ran in throwing plants without really any regard to collateral damage it may of caused. This is pretty much the same as mercenaries marching into medical and wordlessly shooting doctors because they're treating security and trying to keep their patients alive. 3) You abused the Diona mechanics to turn yourself into an unkillable Deity with Radium and explosive soporific plants. You knew full well that doing this would basically make you extremely powerful. Plus people were sedated for mass amounts of time. I decided it was a player issue due to the extensive pattern of behavior, but I'll let others look over this and decide if they agree with me or disagree and make this a mechanical issue. Otherwise, I'll let the logs be pulled up and this handled.

I'm going to post my opinions on what I saw before the antag drafting to after its implementation. Before the draft, there was a constant and narrowed focus to gamemodes that place reliance on a single antag to function. Wizard, Ninja, Malfunction, Traitor, Vampire, and Changeling. These are all game modes that would span multiple rounds on end throughout the day until they got extremely stale. On the pre-lobby selection, you'd see gamemode after gamemode cycle through until it forced one of these modes or extended. There was an overall increase in secret extended. After the implementation, team modes became more diverse. On a staff perspective, it actually increased the quality of rounds as it placed higher experienced roleplayers into these antag slots. Most of the time, they just roll with it, and participate without complaining. Staff have been removing antag statuses from those who didn't want it. My only issue that I have is the increased amount of revolution rounds, 3/4 of the antag base being drafted, and everyone requesting for their status to be removed. In terms of this, I don't think this is an issue with the drafting system, but a highlight in the fundamental issues of revolution. The game mode can be actively frustrating to play as it requires, not only a gimmick, but the crew to engage in whatever gimmick. You can't actively "Wing It" like you can on any other gamemode. I think the draft has been a substantial improvement in general.

Armor durability would be great. It allows so many uses and allows someone to easily modify it. Then perhaps you have to fix it with more plasteel/what ever material or item there is.

I'd like to learn. Record them?

I do not support this. We had boot knives for a while in the loadout. It had the same damage as a fork but with the extra ability to slit throats. This opened many doors for power gaming, valid hunting, and the likes such as that.

Ckey/BYOND Username: SonicGotNuked Position Being Applied For: Diona Lore Deputy Past Experiences/Knowledge: While ss13 taught me how to actually spell things correctly through time, I've been able to expand my creative expression more and more throughout my time here. My Diona whitelist is an example. I've also have a robust foundation with species lore and moderation experience on the server where sometimes you need to take a few lore things into account when the rules are involved. I also have every other whitelist except for Vaurca, if that matters, to which my Tajaran whitelist is very poor. Examples of Past Work: I've shared some of my spare thoughts with Yonnimer about Diona lore since I got my whitelist. My whitelist could be read as some past work I suppose. Diona: My opinions:

Sorry man, you're denied for a spicy meme

Hello! sircatnip since this time has retired from the staff team. I will be taking the decision of your unban. There are no issues with unbanning you that I can tell. Just make sure to read and follow the rules and we'll be good. ? Ban Lifted

I mean, if someone takes a hostage, it's clear they're hostile. All hostage situations means that the antag is being hostile, and in my perspective, I was hostile. That shouldn't excuse suddenly shutting down the situation because magic. It's incredibly poor regardless even if you'd think I'd get away or not. I took the hostage so I can further interact with security and not make this a running match between us. I can run with security 4 steps behind me, personally, and I could've just as easily decapped the head of security and dragged his body into the brig since security was already shoot on sight with me. Anyway, the round is over, and I'm done posting my perspective.

Alright, I am the ninja involved, and I will approach this as a players perspective in the round. Don't get me wrong, I was enjoying the round, up to this point. Security at that point of time was shooting me with lethals and escalating. I was interacting with crew and them. I took the tranq rifle and shot a couple officers with it to try and take the ion rifle. Now I get EMPed, shot up, and escape to buy me enough time to repair my suit and heal my wounds. I went up, to continue the round, and took the Head of Security hostage since he was the one with the ion rifle at the time. Now see this as my perspective, I take the HoS hostage so I can stop security, and say some demands with the HoS at sword point. I only had about enough in the moment to get the HoS to stop resisting and security to calm down and lay off the weapons. Then I suddenly have a IPC walk up behind, tell me that I'm an evil doer, and magic missile me to the floor. This practically shut down the entire hostage situation, instantly, at which point the wizard turned me into a corgi, making me naked, surrounded by security who was promptly on top of me. I at that point asked if I could ghost so I could leave the round and calm myself down while security was running "Just roll with it" in LOOC. I personally found this entire situation extremely poor. There is a difference between security using flashbangs to stop someone from killing a hostage versus using flashbangs before the hostage taker could even have enough time to make demands. I made it clear I was starting a hostage situation. It was clear that this was a hostage situation. This is much like the rulings where security was rushing hostages because they can be cloned. Yes, a flashbang and magic missile will shut down the hostage situation, but that is extremely poor security play before I could even do anything else. In my own personal and player perspective, it looked like someone was given wizard powers just so they could run around and hunt ninjas. I would like to note that the wizard immediately understood in AOOC and was very apologetic but it started with a purposeful magic missle just to shut down the hostage situation before any role play value could be taken out of it.

The drafting will kind of put players in the spotlight, cultivate their skills, and place them in uncomfortable situations. Generate a story, seeing it success or fail, then trying again when they role antag again. This will cultivate our dwindling antag players and hopefully getting new players improved. Balancing antagging is a game between story, winning, roleplay, and security. It is a fairly hard game and sometimes it collapses and you turn all interaction into a chasing match between you and security. We have multiple antags and sometimes rounds will progress with all parties being shot by security. That is ok, people will learn, and grow. The rules should be clearly reflective of this matter, which they are, as you shouldn't gank while at least making an attempt to have other people enjoy the story you are creating. This is a very important function in this delicate balance we make.

Yeah, I agree, medical is really really tough on the eyes. I was only able to stand in it for five minutes before being forced to cryo and look at something more pleasing. The white tiles create a blur effect that looks as if I'm floating 5 feet in the air. I also think the engineering colors are too bright for the dark floor around.

I myself have been guilty of opting out when I voted and it picked me as renegade, but I agree with this change. I will try my best tho. If you never want to play antag, then you can just not vote or vote extended. but the round progressed where being a renegade would of added to it. So yeah, give it a chance I suppose.

I don't believe you. I don't see how someone can forget the messages they've sent about 3 minutes before. Infact, I think this is another excuse of "I don't remember" or just telling the half truth which is another form of lying. You also never asked me if it was my decision alone. You asked me if it was because of the LOOC messages. I'm not going to argue this any longer. I'll let @Pratepresidenten decide on this matter.

I really don't know how to better phrase this. SPCR lied to me. I hold zero tolerance to liars, LOOC stuff aside, was the reason I escalated the punishment and removed SPCR. They were already on very thin ice too with the amount of notes they have received in the 18 days played. Here is the ticket in question: Here is the note alb placed. Here is the breakdown of the server history. It's about 16 notes, 2 day synth ban, 3 day ban, a warning, and the perm ban.

If you disagree with the ban, a staff complaint will get it reviewed. The unbans are for when the mistake is understood. While I admit, the LOOC stuff may not warrant a full perm ban, it's the fact you lied to me. It's too early to accept an appeal. I will look at any chance to redeem the unban in a month from now. I will deny the appeal. Locking and Archiving.

I will explain the two reasons why I have banned AmoryBlaine permanently from the server. To start off with, I will be splitting apart this block of notes to basic numbers. I really am not going to post every single one. It is easy checked by staff via discord. I counted the ones required for a general perspective. Server History, Tickets, and Issues with staff I will open this up with every note, warning, and his eventual removal from the server. Amory was given plenty of chances to follow rule 1. This is a clear attitude issue as a whole. He has 9 notes and 2 previous bans (3 day and week ban) from his entire history on Aurora. Validhunting, Lying, and History on the server Amory has an extensive history of poor behavior when it comes to interacting with antags and the other crew; including 20 notes, 4 warnings, his head whitelist stripped, and two security job bans. Amory through his interactions with the staff and notes has lost all benefit of the doubt to support his case and it only worked to give me the necessary information that he was also valid hunting again before trying to call it off as 'he forgot' I simply escalated the punishments, noticing the ludicrous amount of chances that this individual was given. I'd like to note that during my ahelp with him, instead of answering my questions, he was fishing in discord PMs towards other admins to step in. He was told multiple times through all my interactions with him to make a staff complaint.

I really can not explain further the rule you broke, which follows under poor escalation, and gank. Now I will follow hypothetical situations in my futile effort at explaining how ludicrous escalation it is for blowing up a random locker suddenly allowing the escalation to kill everyone. Yes, that is what the intent was. To kill them. Joe Bro is your average traitor crashing the deeds and slapping the needs. Security of course is the problem, snooping into his bag, or with a dastardly fascination to the gun in his hand. Why does he have a gun you may ask? Well of course it's a shoot people! Those questioning officers are rather snoopy for prying into his personal business. Business that involves loading several bullets into the skulls of everyone nearby just because everyone needs to be a bit more open minded to gun control! The ticking clock of the shuttle bell rings in. Pressed against time. The bullet slotted. With that evil glint in his eyes. He thinks about how security caught him with his unloaded gun. He thinks about the suspicions he managed to gain! Those minds floating towards the shuttle, minding their own business, as innocent co-workers become target practice to fill those empty skulls. Why, he didn't kill them when one brave soul bashed their skull in. Hence, it is not gank despite them bleeding out all across the hard metal floor. But it's fine because they were not killed! They're only dying. I can repeat myself over and over. There was poor escalation. That's what went wrong. It falls under gank. I'm done explaining my side. I'm letting other staff look over this now.

I'm going to summarize what I already said and why there was a warning. The shuttle was boarded. Everyone was going back to the station after successful trade with the Unathi. Naia threw a viscerator onto the floor and went to the back room. While I can speculate the situation and if they stacked a few behind the door, I know for certain that they kept throwing viscerators until about 5 grenades were in battle. Then the player left the backroom and opened fire on the team. I really don't know how to explain other then this being gank. There was not enough escalation to warrant this kind of behavior and suddenly go "Oh you're all going to die now" before spawning in a critical mass of viscerators against 4-6 people inside a closed space. Escalation has steps which were skipped in this situation. It is impossible for me to know exactly what happened or handhold exactly each moment on what to say can be better or how they could of handled the situation better. I've been very clear that they worked to gank the entire research team with a radio jammer inside their pocket so they couldn't call for help and I stepped in to inform the player that this was gank and applied this warning: Murder at this scale needs more buildup before hand. I can't word it more differently then that.

No additional points have been brought up and we don't need a loose thread open with circling disagreement when the decision has been concluded. Locking and Archiving

Alright, I've reviewed the logs and gathered a general progression of events. It was about a 10 minute conversation before it was reported to the Chief Engineer. 1. Val woke up in cryo to the middle of the conversation at this time. [2020-03-10 03:06:40.965] b57-ajF4 ACCESS: Login: wickedcybs/(abstract mob) from IP:xxxxxxxx || BYOND v512 2. Val stayed out of their own curiosity with Taika being psionically active. 3. Conversation is going with Val idly listening to it. 4. Val telepathically communicates with Taika telling to not trust cargo five minutes later with no previous context. [2020-03-10 03:11:09.839] b57-ajF4 SAY: wickedcybs/(Val Xiram) communed to ---------/(Taika Thomson): Do not trust cargo, though. 5. Val enters an argument claiming that cargo was harassing Taika despite them previously admitting that they DID attack Preston in response to previous conversation. [2020-03-10 03:08:48.922] b57-ajF4 SAY: ---------/(Taika Thomson) : (Ceti Basic) I don't think you're going to get an apology out of me for my action, but I should have stopped at one prod. 6. Val tells Oliver that cargo is harassing Taika and medical, which progressed to the entirety of the station going against cargo. [2020-03-10 03:16:05.834] b57-ajF4 SAY: wickedcybs/(Val Xiram) : (Ceti Basic) Roadman, get cargo under control if you can. [2020-03-10 03:16:09.603] b57-ajF4 SAY: wickedcybs/(Val Xiram) : (Ceti Basic) They are harassing people. [2020-03-10 03:16:25.250] b57-ajF4 SAY: wickedcybs/(Val Xiram) : (Ceti Basic) Currently yelling at Thomson. [2020-03-10 03:16:31.332] b57-ajF4 SAY: wickedcybs/(Val Xiram) : (Ceti Basic) For backing up medical after they harrassed them as a department. [2020-03-10 03:17:51.417] b57-ajF4 SAY: wickedcybs/(Val Xiram) : (Ceti Basic) Apparently they have been acting against medical too. (Engineering Communications) I conclude that @WickedCybs was in fact metagaming during this particular instance and ICly reporting information that they have no IC context for. 1. Val did not ask for any context. They casually sat in the conversation before telepathically communicating with Taika asking if they'd like to call security. 2. The conversation was a disagreement between both sides. Cargo wasn't happy Taika attacked Preston, which Taika admitted to attacking Preston. 3. I see no context in the bases of medical being harassed. There was only brief mentions about how Summer was a bitch and the worst Preston could do was stop a shipment. Due to previous notes about metagaming behavior, I will be placing a warning against WickedCybs. Their character, Val Xiram, had zero context of the situation. This leads me to believe that WickedCybs was using information from observing when reporting cargo to command. This lead to the entire station negatively interacting with the department. Nor did they have a conversation with Viggo during this ten minute time frame. [2020-03-10 02:47:06.317] b57-ajF4 SAY: Ghost/wickedcybs : cargo doesn't value their jobs and is telling command/medical to go fuck themselves [2020-03-10 02:47:15.479] b57-ajF4 SAY: Ghost/wickedcybs : because they wish to protect the poor, poor unathi (Ten minutes before they respawned into the round) Unless something else is brought up, I will be locking and archiving this complaint in 24 hours.