Garnascus

Application approved. Glory to Aurora.

Application approved. Glory to Aurora.

Love this, so much. I have big expectations of this contest. I like when theres actual repercussions or things to gain here. Do you know how much admin help it will need?

You need one or two more +1s before i can accept this app. Your answers look good though. you can advertise a link to your application once per round in OOC chat.

THE RULES 1. The barrier for entry is twice as high if you submit something you where directly involved in I will allow applications to be made even if you yourself where directly involved. Understand they will examined much more closely. I do not want to see people spamming apps or acting like tools to try to get in here. You can Always PM me first to ask if something even has a chance. 2. If a post or situation resulted in administrative action being taken it cannot be submitted This one should be pretty obvious. This is a place intended for universally hilarious moments, not a place to mock shitters that got banned or bad roleplayers doing something cringey. While someone CAN be the butt of the joke its expected to be a situation where everyone is laughing with them and not at them. 3. Applications have a MINIMUM one week period before a final decision is made. This is to allow plenty of time for the peer review process. Any registered user may post their thoughts on why or why not they think a post deserves a spot or not. The final decision however rests solely on me. I do not want to see this turn into a popularity contest of the same five people deciding what goes in and what stays out. You may advertise a link to the app once per round in OOC, same rules as a whitelist app in that regard. 4. It is strongly encouraged you have SOME sort of documentation. I understand this isn't always a possibility. If you do not have any logs or a screenshot i expect your application to tell a good "story". Keep in mind if your app is accepted i will just move it as is over to the actual hall of fame. 5.Incidents must have occurred on the server. Pretty obvious i hope. This place is a celebration of the community we have here. Why does this exist? The goal here is to remember hilarious or awesome moments in game. Perhaps you want to nominate someone who went above and beyond the call of roleplay? Maybe an engineer screwing up the supermatter inadvertently takes out two nuke ops in the explosion? The sky is the limit but it should at least be something we can all remember fondly.

Please copy and paste this template into your application. Posts that do not follow this template will be automatically denied Please write your answers outside of the bold brackets. We do not like reading walls of bold text. [b]BYOND key:[/b] [b]Character names of all involved:[/b] [hr] [b]Documentation of the event, Link to post/Screenshot in game. If multiple screenshots please compose an album:[/b] [b]Have you read the application rules??:[/b] [b]Have you made sure this incident didn't result in administrative action?[/b] [hr] Please provide well articulated answers to the following questions in a [b]paragraph[/b] each. [b]Why does this moment deserve a spot in the Hall Of Fame?:[/b] [b]Are you certain we are all laughing together are not shaming someone?:[/b] [b]Final thoughts/anything you want to add?:[/b] [hr]

Skull is asleep, and will handle this in the morning. Until then i am locking this thread.

Application approved. Glory to Aurora.

So, a bit of a backstory in the few minutes before i killed you. I had just blown up the armory and dispatched a secborg who came looking around. I notice you near the armory but you turned around and ran as soon you saw an angry tree geared in tac armor and a laser carbine. I figured it was fine to leave it at that. I Headed back toward the armory to find you there, i aimed my saber at you which was loaded with lethal rounds. I did a /me *tendrils of frost points to the ground*. You did a /me *oliver roadman holds up the shotgun*. Seeing you chose not to surrender a small firefight broke out between us, i of course fired the first shot however. You retreated back into the armory and constructed walls preventing me from getting in. Unfortunately i had a bomb in my bag which i used to breach the area and kill you. My intent originally was just to convert you, once you resisted i opted for turning you into a construct. You chose to opt out of becoming a construct and ghosted. Personally i dont like that but a lot of staff think its ok, and their reasoning isnt invalid. I engaged a fight with you with the goal of adding to the cultist armory in SOME fashion. So when you explicitly declined in dead chat i asked fellow staff members in msay if they where up for being a construct. Itzal, a retired admin said yes so i used VV to add his ckey into your body and do the deed. Their is definitely a lot about this situation that will raise eyebrows, i will attempt to explain why i think its ok for me to do this. Criticism 1 You denied Brayce any chance of getting cloned just because he didnt want to be a construct This was brought up by you in your original ahelp, frankly i have never believed that anyone is entitled to being cloned. I have always been very critical of kills becoming washed away because cloning exists. My philosophy has always been that if a kill is valid; meaning it doesnt break any server rules, then i dont mind what steps a player takes to ensure that the individual Stays fucking dead. Its controversial, i get that. You have to understand though we are a heavy RP server with antags. If you opt out of playing ball with certain antag actions, like declining being a construct i do not think its fair to complain when i make sure you do not come back from the dead. There is a mere thirty minute respawn timer, you can join as another character and play. Criticism 2 You used your position as an admin to further your goals ingame This one is trickier to defend, because at face value its correct. I have the privilege of being an administrator for this server. That allows me access to verbs and information the average player just doesn't have. I have in the past found replacements for others that decided to ghost instead of becoming a construct. At the very least i am consistent, anything i would do for myself i would always afford other players. Still though, that takes time for the average player. I am an admin myself so i could just do it myself in this instance. Should i have gone through another admin just like another player? probably, yeah. We had serveris on at the time who could have done it. I felt at the time that there was no issue with what i did. To me it was simple, "theres an open spot for a construct". Finally, i want to offer a rebuttal to your dislike of my antag play. I know i do not make many friends with the way i play antag. I love this game the best when shits blowing up, people are scrambling trying to save dieing crew, changelings are threatening to eat the other half of the station, nuke ops murder all of command. I love high action, high death, and incredibly tense situations. It makes sense i attempt to bring this out in my antag play and for the most part i think i succeed. People die though, a LOT of people die when i antag. In this situation i at least communicated my intentions with the other cultists and made them aware of exactly what i was going to do. I gave the message many times and all cultists had multiple chances to tell me to fuck off and wait. If im going to go loud as a team oriented antag i have to have everyone else with me.

Trial given to sircatnip on July 3rd, 2016. Trial will continue until the 24th and then a final decision will be made. I have had my eye on this particular player for quite a while and other staff shared my opinion.

Here is my interview with sircatnip http://pastebin.com/czpH6Jzs

Application approved. Glory to Aurora.

Player was PMed in game and given a week to respond to this on top of the months it has already been. I am forced to assume they are intentionally avoiding this. Their whitelist will be removed for failing to adhere to standards of a whitelisted player.

Case by case basis depending on a huge amount of factora UM. Age, species, job experience all of these can affect how much or how little you can know. Learning how to do something super complicated like surgery off station wouldnt be acceptable, you need medical school. As far as where the line is between too complex and easy to learn off station i have no clue.

Everything checks out. Appeal accepted.

Yo, ill check into this real quick. If theres nothing extrenuating ill get it lifted.

The thing you have to keep in mind is most of the mechanics and departments arent things you can learn in just one round. Roleplaying inexperience with a thing is surprisingly difficult. I think what you did here is wrong, i imagine getting started with hacking isnt too hard. As expected you suffered some burns so all good i think.

Its not an IC issue carver. as a non-antag you're expected to have some serious aversion to pain. Biting your hand off over a brig sentence of even thirty minutes or perma is horrendously dumb. There are of course exceptions, it gets a lot easier to get away with as an antag as well.

Support, but id ban the fuck out any officer arresting people over bullshit charges to rack up arrests. Sure you can just ahelp about those people but i think its more fun for security to be able to throw em in a cell for the rest of the round. Oftentimes nobody ahelps about these people and they just make securitys job harder.

I mean, you guys arent wrong about your IC justifications but i wouldn't exactly puff my chest out at stomping a mouse.

Locking and archiving then!

Well, its been clarified that you actually didn't receive a warning for this. IS there still some issue here AWPen?

Retroactive approval can and should always be a thing that can happen. If you're trying to railroad a side project or something or even reverse it entirely because someone didnt get a signature then you need to re-evaluate yourself... Anyway these situations blow up in such a stupid way every other round. "where is your paperwork for X". "EXCUSE ME I DONT NEED PAPERWORK FOR X BECAUSE Y". "YES YOU DO NEED PAPERWORK FOR X AND Y DOES NOT APPLY TO X BECAUSE OF Z". Shut up, shut the hell up. Like these situations are so easy to solve, "hey you didnt get paperwork, thats ok do it next time or fill it out in a bit". On the flipside, just let a head of staff know when you want to do minor alterations. thats not an unreasonable request...

There are a few problems with your train of thought here. The first being rev is a pretty awful gamemode currently. It used to be their where automated CC announcements that gradually escalated in more and more bizarre and increasingly unethical policies. This gave revs a reason to actually revolt and it gave the loyalists a reason to remain steadfast in their loyalty. There is currently no announcements and revs and loyalists are just kinda left to wage war for....reasons? Secondly, there have been times in the past administration have allowed command roles to seemingly defy their loyalty implant. The guiding principle here has been that your character has to truly believe what they are doing is for the good of the company. I expect this to have /rock solid reasoning/. As an example, we had a rev round earlier today where a CCIA agent (xanderdox) had some pretty awesome announcements spark controversy. This culminated in forced borging of select individuals. I would have understood completely if a captain/HoS said FUCK THAT. Plus, the lines are meant to be blurry during rev. you dont HAVE to be a "rev" to act like a rev. You can also switch sides at any time for X reason. Thats the point of the round.

Application approved. Glory to Aurora.