Garnascus

Application approved. Glory to Aurora

Application approved. Glory to Aurora

Great, hopefully this can all end here then. If theirs nothing else to add ill lock this soon.

Look, nobody says this server has to be a hugbox. We also don't punish people for "he hurt much feelinzz". You do however have a tendency to go a bit over that line on a semi-regular basis. Is it really too much to ask to just relax a bit? We are all here to have fun and a little salt now and then is fine.

Right, I get what happened IC happened. What I'm concerned about is your OOC behavior. you don't seem to take criticism very well and you can get kinda bitter and salty over things. Like what gives? Its not isolated to this complaint either.

We all miss you

im staying at least

Who are you?

The cynic in me that hates extended would love this. The realist in me understands its a bit counter-intuitive. Secret is supposed to be a mixed bag. Right now playing secret the question is "is there an antag? Is this guy grinding my gears an antag?" the mind game aspect to this is pretty interesting. Removing extended just changes it to "what antag is it?" Even still, antags always make it more fun for me.

Go and stay go

Whatever, nice vote rigging nerd.

Application approved. Glory to Aurora

This would probably be pretty easy to setup honestly.... Would be easy to build some sort of "staging area" for type antags to spawn from. If we make current crew some of antags however they are gonna have to be beefed up substantially. Energy axes for everyone ?

I don't understand

No its not OOC knowledge. All you have to do is check an atmos console. Plus there's usually always someone who can hack a door open on station. Could be someone with the IC skill.

Yeah but thats all IC! They didn't know the AI was antag!

In that situation i think it would be valid to collect the spare and give someone access to help you call ERT.

It is kind of annoying yeah. Fixing it is even more annoying, hunt down every b0vending machine on the station.

My thoughts as well, I don't like players jumping right to emergency shuttle without trying other options. Although it can be argued that no ghosts are around but isn't that IC in OOC? Also Im EXTREMELY resistant to making admin judgments around things I "don't like". Very slippery slope, even if I can back it up. Part of the reason I made this thread.

Application approved. Glory to Aurora

Need some more feedback!

Application approved. Glory to Aurora

I guess I can sum up my view nicely as "it ends RP dats bad" at least before a certain point.

Lately I have noticed a trend happening among heads of staff. What specifically to do about it has given me no small amount of internal and indeed external conflict. The source of this conflict is the use of the emergency shuttle and what i think is and is not a good use for it. Rather than conceive some arbitrary hypothetical I will do my bet to outline a situation recently and how I handled it. I will begin by disclosing that I was playing said round as a traitor. It was dead hour and if memory serves our crew was in the range of six to eleven. No engineers where present at the time of shift start. I decide to cause a little chaos and rig a few welder bombs in maint. If I recall I set off two or three. One near security, one by the janitors closet, and one by the toxins lab. This of course drives the crew into a panic about how to deal with this. These events took about 40 or so minutes at which point the CMO at the time calls an emergency shuttle. I examined the station and found only one person had died, the vented areas also appeared contained. I PMed the CMO saying I didn't think a few bombs and no power was reasonable justification for an emergency shuttle. The CMO responded that no security where present to find the bomber and that without power we couldn't begin fixing the breaches. Again, I was the traitor at the time responsible. I relayed my concerns to Jenna at the time about calling it so early. She seemed as conflicted as I was but that we should maybe let it happen. I decided to offer a compromise, I would admin-recall the shuttle until the 1 hour mark and if the situation didn't improve I could call another one. An engineer eventually showed up and the round continued as normal with power. Now here is my conflict. I have always thought emergency shuttles should be an absolute last resort. Im talking code red situation + mass casualties and every attempt to rectify the situation has failed. Is the responsibility on the head of staff to get creative during these times? Did I overstep my authority in forcing people to play a frustrating situation? Or perhaps did I help prolong the RP a bit? My gripes where that the sole decision for an emergency shuttle rested on one person. I want to note that this situation is must the latest, but most severe case. More and more I see heads calling emergency shuttles early because a few things go wrong. I thinks line has to be drawn somewhere. Should I just let this happen as all IC? or is it true a line does exist and if so where? I would love any and all opinions here.

Nice to see this resolved peacefully. Ill lock and archive this in 24 hours if nobody else has anything to add.