Kaed

As far as I'm aware, there's like 4, tops. Even if there was 8 though, Is there a reason we need to have a finite number of corporate regulation books available?

Command/Crew are in no way shape or form obligated to blindly follow exceptional obtuse announcements that go beyond the realm of beliefs. Neither CCIA nor the Administration will back a CC announcement that is simply completely against the lore or beyond reason. Telling Command/ISD to be super vigilant around people of a certain race or species is fine. Telling the crew that "x crew member" is a wanted terrorist that needs to be detained, etc. etc is fine. Telling the crew to begin the mass killing of a certain species is not. Telling crew to "x visitor" is now the Captain is not. Especially when they completely lack the qualifications. If a person wishes to waste their TC's on it, that's on them. If a person is simply doing this every round and not contributing to anything as an antagonist, ahelp them. We already enforce this, I can announce this again and have staff do a few more announcements on servers and notices on the AOOC chat. That sounds reasonable, but if so, it should be made more clear to players somehow. Because, like I said, we had a round where the antag announcement was literally 'okay everyone, we're doing an experiment where you have to kill people by vote or we blow you up with secret implants we put in', and the HoS actually started following it under the excuse of 'it's an order from NT'. And then the staff on server did nothing to dissuade this.

Please no. Can we stop humping Sol Gov as a plot device.

I sorta like that, actually. Damned doors acting up again, get engineering.

Liquid rations are no good for unathi. Put some jerky in there or something.

You know, that xuzui juice or whatever you can order, that unathi can drink. A few drinks that are probably fruit based, like margaritas, should be able to be made with the cactus juice, making an alternative, 'unathi' version. Just a thought!

It's a nonlethal single target disable spell. I don't know why it only exists in the battlemage arsenal. Add it to clerics and Druids, I'd say.

I would much rather prefer we have something more robust, like 15-20 runes per cultist. That is plenty of runes, but it's not constrictive. I frequently find myself struggling when I try to create a teleport network of runes. There should be enough runes available for cultists to have to rely on each other for big things but not absolutely make them rely on each other, because forced teamwork mechanics lead to more frustration than anything good.

All that happens is the Command Staff try and ask Central Command if it's real, then the ccia or admins don't say anything because they don't want to ruin the 'gimmick', and they don't have any guidelines in place. So then the Command Staff kind of flounders around before they decide whether they're going to ignore it or not. And a lot of times they do because they don't really have another option. At what point is a 'command' or 'decree' from Central too much? It's left entirely up to the players with no oversight.

>Malf round >AI hacks drones to unlock their lazor >Endless stream of lazor mounted maint drones attacking the crew >???????????? For real though, I guess it sounds kinda cool.

??? They can already do this by rolling up to any console that accesses said records and opening it up. All this is cutting out is needless proximity mechanics. They're lawed to the station, there is no reason to treat cyborgs as 'potential security risks'.

You poor doomed soul. I have been in your shoes. It sounds nice as an idea, but functionally you're writing fanfiction for a player demographic that exists entirely as self-made fanfiction. You'll try to lay groundwork for people to work with and they will ignore it entirely or the staff team will shut you down. I give you my personal advice to bail on this before it does to you what it did to me.

Throw them into the slave pit with the other coders! Buahahah! Joking aside, I guess that makes sense, put in that light.

Yeah I'm sorry fowl, but I can't really agree with your angle here. Your personal opinions on Borg design oversaturation shouldn't necessarily supercede the work and wants of the community. I like the breadth of borg models we have, and would welcome another floaty one that isn't based on a star wars probe droid

Gimmicks shouldn't be sacred things that no one moderates. If I declared my unathi visitor was now captain of the station, I feel very strongly that someone would step in and shut that down. But somehow this situation is allowed?

This is a policy suggestion, so no, it doesn't belong in the general thread, unless posting policy changes is something that also changed. I guess it can also be moved if that's the case. And I don't think that you really understand what I'm saying here. This isn't about 'stealth antags', this is about people who break any semblance of coherent canon setting to insert the crew into a situation that logically would never take place. If they can create a situation where the crew thinks they've suddenly moved into a world where a research and mining company suddenly becomes a last man standing deathmatch with one announcement because 'lol everyone has to pretend it's real no matter what it says', then it's a problem, because no one higher up will step in and do anything about it. It should be more important to maintain the coherency of the setting then to just let it descend into formless chaos because 'it sounds fun'. Maybe I'm literally the only one that cares about that and I'm wasting my time? I don't even know. But even if you ignore the lore/setting part and don't give a damn, I don't feel like an antagonist should be able to create a situation where their 'antagonism' is passed off to the entire crew, allowing anyone to reasonably run around murdering each other. Nor should they make announcements that cause the loyalty implanted heads of staff to start being antags because 'nanotrasen said to kill erryone, so I guess I gotta lol' logic. Especially if it involves them immediately blowing themselves up to convince everyone that there are really bombs inside their bodies (this happened twice in the round in question), so they can sit in ghost land and watch the fireworks.

I thought this was already covered a while back when there was a thread about awful rev rounds, but apparently not. There needs to be some logical boundaries on what people are allowed to pretend their character thinks is a real announcement from central command, especially when they are outside of any fathomable realm of possibility. Some recent bad examples I have seen: -There's a draft for the tajaran war and everyone is now soldiers, report for duty. Also make lots of guns to give to the war. (Why the bloody hell would tajarans have any sort of draft authority in Biesel? Why would they be recruiting from a research and mining station? Why would they order guns from a small-scale prototype weapons facility rather than a mass-production reliable gun factory?) -Everyone has an exploding implant that they weren't aware of until now, and the station is to enter into a preposterous experiment/game of 'murder each other or you blow up until only one is left', straight out of a Saw movie. (Why would nanotrasen actually endorse this? What purpose does it serve? Isn't it actually illegal, like, everywhere in human space to murder each other?) What particularly bothers me is that admins/CCIA either don't step in and do anything, or they just sort of blandly state that it's a real announcement because they don't want to ruin the antags round (I guess?). And a large amount of the crew blindly goes along with it, I guess because we don't perform any kind of discernment in the rules about what is okay for an antagonist to tell you is happening. A total lack of reply from central command, which in itself should be incredibly suspicious, after they make a monumental announcement like nonsensical drafts or stationwide deathmatches, is for some reason taken as a 'well, I guess we better take it for granted until we hear otherwise, even though it breaks IC laws and reason.' And being loyalty implanted should not mean you blindly follow clearly illegal orders from Nanotrasen without any followup confirmation, like 'execute everyone'. I just want some feedback on if people think this sort of thing should be clamped down on. There are plenty of ways to make a round interesting with antag resources without sailing off the edge of the realm of plausibility and forgetting the actual setting we are in.

Ckey/BYOND Username: Kaedwuff Position Being Applied For Deputy Unathi Loredev Past Experiences/Knowledge: I had some brief experiences with attempting to be an 'antag lore dev' over a year ago, and eventually ended up leaving because of frustrations between lore and gameplay separation that is inherently present in all antagonists due to their inherently noncanon nature. Diona and Unathi do not share that problem, since they are supposed to have an established plot and canon. Aside from that, I've been writing and reading for a good many years, and have established plots and characters for several world settings and dozens of characters that have absolutely no relation to this server. I also have a fairly decent grasp of what makes a good story and some bad ones. Examples of Past Work: I have and still do maintain a number of 'quest' style stories on TGchan, with increasingly more of it involving art I actually worked on or created myself. You can peruse them yourself if you like. https://tgchan.org/wiki/Legacy_Quest https://tgchan.org/wiki/Fiend_Quest https://tgchan.org/wiki/Moebius_Acquisitions https://tgchan.org/wiki/Archduke_Azureblood (Note: While I keep my quests within a strictly PG-13 rating, I cannot guarantee you will meet the same standard if you explore TGchan outside of my work. If you don't want to see someone's smut themed quest, don't look around too hard.) As an additional bit of my work, this the unfinished groundwork I created for a currently on hiatus setting I was developing just titled 'Omega' at this time, which involved an invasive robotic presence converting local inhabitants of the setting into part of the growing machine empire, in a sort of combination between 'the borg' and 'runaway AI' thematics. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1V0K-vKLIEQCWDOIC7qYEf5zUE747aDpW Additional Comments: I can be very strongly opinionated (and yes, occasionally rude, though I will try to work on that if you want me in an official position) and flexural in my mindset towards story and lore writing. I like to shake up existing groundwork and provide conflict. I will very likely introduce conflicts to both unathi and diona that bring that conflict to the forefront in the both the background lore and the station itself. I don't pretend that all I want to do is maintain the status quo of either species. If that is all you want in an a 'lore maintainer', then I am not the one you want. But I do hope it is, because it seems like it would be fun to work with.

Uh-oh someone called the semantics police. Anyway, whoever that person is in the image, it shouldn't be a hard change to add.

For shaaame. Though I had a strong suspicion that Mr Bond would show up in this thread.

Flower pins currently exist as a pretty thing for ladies to put in their hair. But what about the distinguished gentleman? No self-respecting man would wear a flower in their hair. However, it is very classy to have decorative a flower on your lapel. Please make it so.

I'm not super keen on them being expensive, especially the testing ground ones those ones are already region locked, why do they also need to be cost locked? I also don't know that they're planning to add a disguised firing pin that looks like a flower pin, so antags will be getting something.

It's really more of a "we just lost, time to call in overpowered reinforcements" then anything else in practice. I remember being in a round once where an ERT was called barely a half hour into the round, because security ramboed their way into a TPK by attacking the mercenary shuttle. At that point command felt justified in calling in ERT. And I can't really say that I don't think they were? It was an unusually bad situation for the station. But I don't think that ERT call should be something that the crew is obligated to receive. They should be an Ace in the Hole that you can get if you're lucky, not an expectation. If you really want to end the round because shit's so fucked you're done, call an Escape shuttle. It's certainly something that's capable of being stopped by the antags if they want to, unlike an ERT.

Suggestion and mind control abilities should remain firmly in the realm of antagonists. Non antagonist psionics should only be able to do low-level things, like make someone have a case of the giggles, or some other emotional manipulation that is very small scale and only valuable for role-playing purposes.

I don't know about that fowl. We already have procedurally-generated Bloody footprints that can leave a trail after you walk over a blood pile. Creating a line of blood splatters that mesh with each other into a longer splatter shouldn't be impossible. If it's the blood spread to you're concerned about, I could easily get you some. It's literally a flat image of some splatters, there isn't even depth or shading to it, I could draw it myself