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"Gorge, I need you make a distraction, something noisy. Just don't get yourself in danger." "Danger's my middle name."

thanks i hate it

no this makes absolutely no sense from an ic standpoint, why would a company ever let its employees carry knives around with them in the workplace. and they are not practical as items of self-defense either as using one would most likely rack up in a ‘use of excessive force’ or ‘manslaughter’ charge. pepperspray makes more sense. also for the case of utility, besides cutting food knives have no use outside of combat application iirc

Big fat +1 Crystal has shown themselves to be a competent roleplayer and someone who understands how to drive a round forward. I can't say I've had any negative experiences with them and am sure they would do well with a head of staff whitelist as exhibited through rounds where they were granted an interim position.

lol

old but gold

@Snake2512

give it a chainsaw like that one starship troopers movie

yes every single person that plays security is a valid hunter well done ?

your efforts to make the forum more active have been recognized

I had given my reasons for wanting the posi removed and had wanted to elaborate further with the Autakh but they completely ignored me and wordlessly went on with the surgery (or repair idk what to call it). That's why I just reacted with the baton as they seemingly didn't want to have any reasonable interaction with me. Not to forget the context of the round. It was focused around a document that would (allegedly) threaten Nanotrasen and put them in a bad position with the law. There were directives provided by Central Command to secure them and not allow anyone who isn't implanted to be able to view them. I had an interaction with HEPH-MOVER earlier during the round and he and his team seemed adamant and determined in exposing this so-called truth to everyone and were not willing to back down at all. They didn't accept payment and he at one point also stated he was under orders. It was because of this I felt it would've been the best course to have the posi removed so that it could be controlled easier instead of risking a breach of information by a quite powerful IPC. I have to apologize as I didn't know that it wasn't dead and was only heavily injured, it had been shot with the kill-ion twice and I'm not familiar with the units make or robustness really oocly. Honestly all this could've been avoided if Paradox spared the time to allow interaction with my character instead of completely ignoring them to complete a request. I know it's a morally questionable thing to do to an IPC but the events of the round had called for that. I'm not surprised that they denied the order, that's natural in any case but they didn't even try to hear me out or understand the gravity of the situation, which I feel wasn't justified OOCly or ICly and was reasonably responded to with an arrest. They had shown a lack of fearrp and painrp when being arrested and did not want to back down even with the threat of an ion rifle. The whole interaction would've proven to be a threat to their employment and even life but they ignored such because they wanted to fix a robot that came from a hostile boarding party, which I find to be an unrealistic response.

1. Honestly, from what I understand, the job of the QM is simply to see that orders go through. They do not have the decision to deny an order given it was done through the proper facets, ready payment, and authorization from a head of staff. To me it was straightforward neglect of duty. The captain and HoP at the time had both agreed that they were not doing their job properly and were informed of the consequences of an arrest should they continue to refuse to do their job. To me supply seems like a low-skill job, and their reasons for denying the order were not valid either from an IC standpoint. 2. It was brought up with the captain and HoP over comms @SatinsPristOTD was Scarlett Hayden. I told them what was going on and an officer asked if they could make the QM give the order. I don't think she did though but she agreed when I had made the arrest and there was no objection from any heads of staff. The HoP at the time was quite unresponsive but that was due to them being an antag at the time. 3. Yes, I told them that the IPC was a hostile insurgent that boarded with a raiding party. A number of times, actually, they still did not listen.

I had only beaten their legs when they were knocked down because they had still refused to stop chasing me. They continued to get up even when being ioned. I was afraid one more shot would've killed them so I had moved to disable their robotic limbs. Edit: Looking back at the chat logs, their legs were sparking. I didn't see that, I was too focused on the sprites on my screen. What I had saw was them still getting up and still approaching me.

This is demonstrably false, anyone who looks at the logs can see what you have just said is absolutely incorrect. I had gave a direct order to remove the posibrain of the raider who had boarded the station and engaged security personnel. They are, effectively, a threat to the station along with them having been in possesion of sensitive documents that would seriously damage Nanotrasen. The Autakh Unathi did not listen to me when I asked them to take out the posi, instead they simply responded "i will fix" or something along the lines of that before wordlessly moving to do surgery. I gave ample warning, I first told them verbally to stop. They did not listen. I batoned them, used cable and told them to stop. They did not listen. They broke the cuffs and lashed out to me, I tased them, they got back up and still did not listen. They had the saw in their hands and that's when I finally brandished the ion rifle, on stun, mind you, and asked them to stand down. At this point I had no ammo in my baton or my energy pistol so I had to use my telebaton on disarm intent on the other attacking scientist, which does no damage and only deals hallos. It was at this point they STILL charged at me, despite me having an ion rifle. The IPC on the table was even ASKING to have its posi removed instead of going through with this. I shot them with the stun ion, they disregarded all fearRP and self-preservation for themselves. After I used the ion, they were on the floor. But get this, they STILL got up. I had to then disable their legs with the baton at harm intent, I had no cuffs, and there was no cable to restrain with as they were all broken. Medical was let in, security came in and cuffs, and I did not touch them after that. Saying that I dragged them to security is false, I tended to the problem of the raiders, not the Unathi who was disobeying orders for no understandable reason. The heads voting for demotion was related to another IC incident which was, well, IC.

arrow man bad

Given the station been assaulted by raiders, liidra, and now the recent SLF arc, it makes sense for the armory to be stocked with lethal munitions. This has been done plenty of times before, I've seen it myself. The officer that said it was for 'training' wasn't speaking for me. I was bwoinked about it and I said that it was to be kept in the armory unless needed, and the ticket was closed. If security was restricted to what they had in the armory then why even have the cargo order in the first place? If it was the actual case of an emergency it's very likely that services would be held up or attempted to be disabled if there was wind of extra munitions being routed to the station by the Odin. Also Easter having a balaclava is fine, he keeps his face visible which is no problem for me.

This probably sounds better as an uplink item or traitor gear rather than being something you can haphazardly put together imho.

its for protection sake, having a helmet doesnt make you a front-line fighter arguably, a lot of the time the hos is a target for antags, as well as the fact that in many cases they are required to have to intervene in the duties of an officer they require protection. they already have armored headgear, why not make one a helmet?

as the title says, ever since the dermal implant was removed the only head protection is the beret or the cap which imho are not aesthetically pleasing idk why i have to resort to stealing one from an officer or trekking to the surface to get some head protection, would be nice if there was something, maybe even with little golden streaks if someone's willing to sprite it.

While I may not know a lot about Vaurcae themselves, I can however speak on behalf of ShesTrying's roleplay, and I believe I speak for everyone when I say that it is splendid and always a pleasure to have to interact with. The backstory provided reads well and is an interesting concept that I have not yet seen explored on this server. I'm glad to see her taking the extra step in her roleplay by applying for a xeno whitelist, there is great potential and I for one can't wait to see how it turns out. Big fat +1.

Am I allowed to bump this? I think its a really good idea, could use some tweaks but that's normal for any suggestion. Cult is in the need of a rework for a while now!

Hii i want to reply to some points brought up here. First of all, i’ve thought over the issues brought. I had a chat over on the server with Arrow about this and he brought up how from both and IC and OOC standpoint that what I’m doing is a bit silly and unrealistic in regards to playing a command role. It makes sense, and even I can see after that round that it’s not beneficial to me or anyone else truly. Truth is I used to involve myself a lot with the security team, though I received some feedback that had made me reconsider my playstyle. I’ve been trying to cut back and give the team a breath of autonomy, which, I feel, works in /some/ cases. Though in a lot of a rounds where theres not really anything going on I find myself idling at my desk and not really doing much so I was looking for some form of roleplay or interaction whether it be with Miller or not. I can see that I took the feedback the wrong way, and in all honesty, and there’s probably a much better way to go about delegating a team instead of simply giving orders over the radio. I also have misunderstood the role of the loyalty implant, which i’ve read through over again to reassure myself. There's definitely more to the role than barking orders and I realize that shifting away from involving myself with the team is detrimental to people’s roleplay and experience which is something that I truly do not want to do. I would just like to comment on one little point: I’m sorry I found your feedback valuable, really, but I have never cryo’d or tried to cryo out of a round before. The only time I ever have is two times when the round got dragged on and I had work in the morning, and another one for a reason that I could not control. I ahelped before both and it was handled, otherwise i’ve never tried to dodge a round before. Sure maybe I’ve complained in LOOC by saying something like "not this shit again" but I go with the round no matter the predicament brought up. Though I get the point you’re trying to make, I never saw being the head of security as being a villain and the only time the character has been wrought with their conscience was when there was a CC announcement instructing the crew to choose 2 people to be forcefully borgified which I honestly think no one would agree to. Other than that, yeah, thank you for the comments and i’ll take them to heart next time i’m on the server. Till then, i’ll just leave this thread for an admin ig.

I don't think I was keeping the security team in the dark. Given that comms was taken down for a good part of the shift I was still trying to actively communicate over a stationbounced radio. There was evidence to suggest that the AI was not altered by Miller as confirmed by the forensic technician. The law that made the AI was told to the Captain and over sec comms and it had done nothing to implicate any characters. The only evidence was from forensics. I was then told that Noir had an unusual fascination for the AI. Given that we had subversive elements in the security team, and HoP himself who admitted to being one that I felt that it would have not been safe to hand over the carded AI to someone not implanted. The Captain, who was the CE, appointed themselves illegally by breaking into the Captains office and did not consult a decision from either of the heads of staff. This is why I was also skeptical to hand the AI over. You see, now you did not tell me that this had happened. You simply told me that the AI was carded and not that the roboticist jumped to card it, were that the case I would've acted differently. When I was told about the AI in Xenoarch I had gotten the intellicard myself and was not aware that they had one. I only denied Noir's request to take the AI because I was told they had some odd reason for wanting it, and given the hostile elements in security, I felt it was safest to keep the card with myself. If I were to state its laws, which was already done, you would not have believed me and still would have pressed to take the AI regardless. I only learnt about the AI being found in xenoarch becauser Miller had informed me, you did not say anything over the station bounced frequency which, by keeping me out of the loop, only made this whole ordeal more worrying. This is a fair point, you were right to suspect such. Though I do feel that the justification of the implant makes sense here. It exists so that I make decisions in the best interest of the company. To hand over two station AI's to a person who I had believed had an unknown interest in the AI, who was in a team with subversive elements, could very much be harmful. It's not brainwashing, or neither was I trying to go for that, I believe my reason for not handing over a highly expensive and valuable piece of equipment to a person who didn't keep me in the loop for a good portion of the shift is justifiable. As I had said before, the 'captain' appointed themselves without any command input. Over the comms there was talk about the AI being wiped, and that was expected given that it had basically shocked every single door on the station and tried venting it. The belief was if that the station and fabricated AI was handed to someone who I could not reliably trust, it would turn out bad, for myself and the company alike. The threat I made to the acting captain was ehh, admittedly just too far, I had the feeling everyone was out to get my at that stage when Noir had mentioned they would take it by force, so I responded with such threats with my own. On top of that, given the recent Lance events and what had happened to Noir, I also felt that given all that was going on, it wouldn't be wise to hand someone who was suspected of working with the SLF two AI's. That's where the whole 'trust' thing stemmed from. I was busy for a good portion of the round with Kiva and Miller to retrieve the station AI. The rest of the team were given directives on what to do, and I let them act with a breath of autonomy. I have received feedback before that I am too hands-on as a head of security, so I have been trying to pace myself back and simply give directives and allow the team to act on their own volition. It is unfair to say that I was not keeping the team in touch when I had made a great effort to have everyone carry a station bounced and keep in touch, one of the things I literally state all the time as a head is how communication is imperative to the cohesion of a team. You knew what the AI's laws were, you knew the tasks that I had assigned, yet you didn't want to do any of them and decided to instead try to rouse the HoS because you felt there was a conflict of interest. I do not think that's fair given the circumstances of the round, you're only seeing things from your perspective here. I do admit, however, that keeping information like the AI from the team to be offputting, especially as a head of staff. Were it any other round I would have obliged and let the team view the laws. I wasn't keeping information for some shitty OOC reason, I was doing it based on the context of what happened during the round and I feel I was justified in that right.

Reporting Personnel: Jesse Armstrong Job Title of Reporting Personnel: Head of Security Game ID: b2G-bYq4 Personnel Involved: - Berko Mutema, Security Officer, Offender - Qu Shin, Engine Technician, Offender - Leah Staymates, Crime Scene Investigator, Witness - Faith Windsor, Biochemis, Witness Time of Incident: N/A Real Time: 18:00GMT+4, 11/08/19 Location of Incident: Research, Medical Maintenance Nature of Incident: [ ] - Workplace Hazard [ ] - Accident/Injury [ ] - Destruction of Property [ x ] - Neglect of Duty [ ] - Harassment [ ] - Assault [ x ] - Misconduct [ ] - Other _____ (Place an x in the box that applies. If other, replace line and specify.) Overview of the Incident: During the shift, security had gained wind of the production of narcotics taking place. This was from a report of the theft of syringes made by Faith Windsor claiming that an engineer had taken syringes from medical, and that an officer had done nothing to prevent them. This was further investigated to reveal that the theft was made by Qu Shin and overlooked by Berko Mutema. Shin and Mutema had been admitted into the medbay some time after because of an apparent overdose that had afflicted Shin. They had brain damage as confirmed from medical, and drugs in their system. The drugs were unable to be identified due to medical being preoccupied with the surgery of another patient, and it had metabolized into their blood stream before it could be analyzed. A warrant was distributed for the search of medical and research, where the narcotics could have been produced. Forensic evidence revealed that fibers from clothing matching Qu Shin's at the time were found at both (exploratory chemistry) and (chemistry): Qu Shin was arrested on charges of trespassing, breaking and entering, and neglect of duty. This was for illegal entry into research, theft of syringes, and being high while on duty. She was taken onto the transfer shuttle as there was no time for her to be brigged during shift hours. Berko Mutema was called upon for an interview where he had confessed the activies being performed between both him and Shin. The book on 'designer drugs' was also located, and fibers were found matching that of Shin. They were suspected to have been injecting the drugs into themselves by medical maintenance, where they had surfaced to seek treatment after the overdose. I would like to note that this is not the first time that Shin has been charged for breaking and entering. She had once hacked into chemistry to gain the ingredients to create 'Dyn Tea'. They were caught, and let off with a warning. A formal injunction was filed barring them from being in chemistry given their extensive security record detailing a history of narcotics. Did you report it to a Head of Department or IAA? If so, who?: Myself, Jesse D. Armstrong, Head of Security. Actions taken: Arrest of Qu Shin, Berko was let off. Additional Notes: I request that Qu Shin be granted a leave without pay in order to rehabilitate and re-educate themselves, I have had a conversation with them regarding this topic and they have agreed to attend sessions and provide me with evidence of their attendance. This venture will not be sponsored by the company and I am instead taking it upon myself to see that they are fit to work with us. I would also request that Berko Mutema go through enforces sessions of rehabilitation, this is also because of their security record with narcotics and the circumstances of the shift leading me to believe they were not the driving force for this illicit consumption; rather they were talked into it.

I've played with a good number of your characters and I really enjoy every interaction. You seem to know what you're doing, you drive the rounds for players and not try to shut them down which is quite an important consideration. I'm sure you having a command whitelist would suit the server quite well. +1