UnknownMurder

There are two reasoning I can contest the ruling. If these two reasoning and screenshots I posted are ineffective to @ShesTrying, @MattAtlas, and @witchbells, then I don't know what to tell you because I am very very sure it was an IC issue from my side with the information I had and by just looking at the unathi's actions right before my eyes. If you actually understood completely with all accounts (especially the permit incident) for it, I wouldn't be having this note or a had a sudden force to change course of action. This would have been IC issue for CCIA to decide. I acknowledge your statement from OOC perspective that it may not been enough. These three factors weren't the only factors. I've been getting investigation result from Harl'on about what is it that the Kizaresi was doing. I think you would receive better direct information from what Harl'on has informed me or @ShesTrying may take a dive into the server logs to know what is it Harl'on has been saying in Security Comms that I keep asking Harl'on to confirm this information over and over. Command were hesitant with me at first and agreed with me afterward that it was Kizaresi who was a likely suspect for murder of Tabor because of the investigation I received from Har'lon. Har'lon was a Security Officer investigating into this before IRU-Brick had arrived. UNLESS, the investigation that I received were a definite biased security report from Har'lon. I would ask for an immediate expunge of this note and staff complaint closed down. And someone should speak to that player. The information I had summed and kept to the back of my head were directly from Har'lon whom I asked to confirm on whether is Kizaresi is responsible for this and he kept saying "YES" and even when I told him about a different person is telling me a different information Har'lon went "I AM VERY SURE. I WAS JUST THERE WHEN I HEARD THEM SPEAK IN SINTA TONGUES, THESE TWO UNATHIS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MURDER OF TABOR!" (and yes, this is a pass-the-blame). After Lyhia was choked, I was told by Har'lon "WELL, WE SHOULD HAVE KEPT THEM IN THE BRIG BUT NOOOO I HAD TO GO DEAL WITH MERCHANT SO I RELEASED THEM UNDER BONDS" logic. Some people were arrested/killed by Security because they just happen to be in the wrong place at some time and were let off because of their short investigation and based on first look. I'll make two scenarios here. I'll let you decide what is the best course of action Because really even if the person was an antag and we have a global awareness of specific antag on the station, Security would just be hunting them down in a similar nature. I do not understand the reasoning to why you think choking a person is not attempted murder. Hopefully, you can explain to me more about this. SCENARIO A: You begin your shift. Everything is fine and dandy until Engineer A creates a phoron pike and hangs it on their back for everyone to see. Someone calls Security. Security is called. Engineer A insists it being for self defense. Security arrests Engineer A. Engineer A is sent to the brig and serves their time. Warden sends them a permit afterward. Engineer A walks around the hallway and finds the person who called them out to Security. Engineer A chokes a person for revenge, the person goes unconscious from lack of oxygen. Crew calls. Security arrives and saves the person in time, arrests Engineer A and gives them a charge. The question to you is... What charge would this be? Would it be assault or would it be attempted murder? SCENARIO B: You begin your shift. Everything is fine and dandy until you hear Scientist A is bombing the station. Security is called. Scientist A is on the run. Scientist A starts spouting some danger stuff on radio comms. Scientist A chokes a person they came across, the person goes unconscious from lack of oxygen. Security arrives, spots them, and saves the person in time, arrests Scientist A and gives them a charge. The question to you is... What charge would this be? Would it be assault or would it be attempted murder aside from manhunt and possible terrorism charge. Command decision was delayed because of the accusation and the "authoritarian" tone to coerce me going deep into my logs to show I wasn't lying to a staff member. But, sure. I'll consider it as irrelevant. I do not care for this topic. We can put this toss it in #trashcan.

Bump. I see that the CCIA are still slow and Lancer just opened the recent IR for investigation. The oldest IR has not been responded or touched upon.

This is very very interesting and will be very very cringy to watch the wedding on station.

Thank you for your honesty regarding accused of lying and you have acknowledged the tone to be objectionable. I will say that this sort of accusation should be a double-edge sword and not taken lightly. I will leave this to the staffs taking this complaint to decide with no longer discuss this unless you wish to talk more about it. The full situation that I have been informed by people in radio communications and in-person and investigating on the spot. An unathi grabbing Lyhia's neck while she is unconscious with Kizaresi his their unathis around. I was being told by Har'lon re-confirming the situation regarding with murder of Tabor that Kizaresi and his friend is responsible for it, I asked them if they are very sure it was Kizaresi. Har'lon said yes to being positively sure it was Kizaresi. This had built up suspiciousness and kept in the back of my head to be extremely careful and report to Security anything Kizaresi does. Kizaresi was released from Security and I presume was told not to get in any trouble while understaffed Security goes to handle the merchant trying to escape of being suspected of a murder. Which in fact which takes me back to the first sentence regarding the full situation. I investigate on the spot, I see Kizaresi on Lyhia's neck unconscious. I call IRU-Brick to apprehend the suspect. Lyhia is treated. I head to my office and start contemplating on calling Emergency Shuttle which was slightly delayed by Command meeting on topic "can we salvage this?" and my ticket delaying the final confirmation orders of Evac Shuttle or ERT. To reiterate, I spoke with the Command about Lyhia being unconscious with Kizaresi's seemingly trying to choke Lyhia. It is my personal belief that this whole situation is IC reason and warrants an Incident Report. I have made decisions on my perspective. This calls for an IC investigation it was done on an Extended Round and to fully determine if it was actually Attempted Murder or an Assault. In fact, a good question to ask the crew would be. Why was even the station going bonkers, Security and Command were trying to handle several situations and yet people wants to brawl with each other?

BYOND Key: UnknownMurder Staff BYOND Key: @witchbells Game ID: b8b-arAn Reason for complaint: First of all, I take the accusation by another player of "lying to an admin staff" very seriously, and I do not appreciate the authoritarian tone that was delivered to me. If it was "Do you mind sending me screenshot of this" would have been great but "I want screencaps of the incident" does not sit well with me. If it is in my notes, I will contest it (even to the slightest hint) to be stricken off from my notes. I have been ordered to show my screenshots to WitchBell in Discord though I have already done so for other moderation team in different rounds. I have given the screenshots of what I have witnessed. Hands on the neck gives the impression of beginning to choke and discoloration on Lyhia Kyousa. After I have left the bar to call for Security. Chief Medical Arrives. One of the unathi pulls Lyhia out of the bar. Chief Medical Officer treats to them. If this was not noted in my notes, I expect something to be done about the serious accusation. Serious accusation such as this can be enough have my head whitelist revoked or worse permanently banned from the server. Second of all, I dislike being observed under a magnifying glass and being told a different story of what I just said and also told to call off the arrest or lighten the the arrest. I proceeded to lighten the arrest regardless. I stated facts that had happened in front of my eyes and ears. To this day, I still believe I made the right call that Kizaresi should be jailed for attempted murder. I was also told by Har'lon that they were released on a bonds of security being too busy with Merchant situation to worry about unathi. After the bar situation, I decided to try to push for an evacuation shuttle called due to: People attacking each other. Hivebots. Merchant killing an officer. Understaffed Security. After the ahelp, I spoke with Chief Medical Officer, Chief Engineer. They were confused with the intentions at first and somewhat agreed with me that it able to be ruled as an attempted murder. I was told to change my RP and was told and shrugged off that it was bad Command Play even though the shift was falling apart and no further explanation was provided than just a twisted story of "you glanced" when I in fact did not say that I glanced. Lastly, this holds little weight but worthy to be mentioned. The WitchBells had to mention this statement and vented their hatred into OOC as if it was because of our conversation in our tickets with my defense screenshots. WitchBells: what's up everypony i hated that round so fucking much Evidence/logs/etc: Additional remarks: It is to my personal belief that WitchBells is jumping conclusion before trying to ask me anything. For example, "[04:07:08] witchbells -> that doesn't fly, unknown" as if they know the whole story even though I had my RP reasons. I also emphasize that I do not appreciate the authoritarian tone. I would also like to know what WitchBells noted down on my notes.

Your Corporate Liaison did great in "prostituting/selling themselves". That is a lot better. I noticed a lot of progress since I last posted here. What made me take a pause and think about how you behave with an antagonist situation (recently changeling), it looks like you were trying to force yourself in when Security Officer, Detective, and a Security Cadet were already present. You had an energy pistol. I'm not bothered by you trying to help Head of Security but when you're forcing yourself in and this implies that you're trying to take command as Corporate Liaison when Head of Security is down. So, here's an extra feedback. Let the specialized people take care of situations they're trained for and be sure to know your job boundaries. In this situation, your energy pistol was given to you for your self defense, not to chase antagonists. I acknowledge you were trying to help and be useful, everyone has that feeling that they want to be included, even in a conversation. I see progress but at the same time I see more and more of your true nature at this time and mistakes when we get in heated situations. Everyone makes this mistakes, it's human nature. +1

I am okay with this compromise.

+1 Thought you were an official spriter. Your work is very talented and well-done.

Above quote is ahelpable. Above quote is not ahelpable. I am against it. I converse in LOOC to make a joke and will still do. People do have a good laugh in LOOC or poke fun of any situation. I will continue doing this even if the policy enacted. I might as well use (( )) if LOOC is removed or restricted further. There is a good time to converse in LOOC and there is a bad time to converse in LOOC. A good time to converse is when you're sitting around and want to mention something about real life when you're "working". A bad time to converse is when you're in middle of an active situation such as a patient dying at your hands or making an arrest and you're talking to people about "Hey, have you seen the new Call of Duty game?" as @Dbrg says. I don't know what ticked you off so bad to create this suggestion.

I had a healthy discussion about this in the #serious_discussion with @Scheveningen. I like the intended message it is trying to achieve. I don't think adding a regulation is a good way to go on about enforcing it but it is a worthy try. My guts tells me that Captain, Head of Security, or Security would just utter "Oh, he's just doing his job." and turn a blind eye to it. I think it should be more of a station or internal security directive thing. It should already part of the SOP (me thinks) to de-escalate an issue with talking and not use pew pew guns too suddenly. But again, I don't think anyone follows SOP to the letter. I probably skipped a part of SOP because /shrug/. Given the scenario. There are two non-antags officers on a shift. Officer A pulls out a gun too early and breaks the infraction. Officer B tries to arrest Officer A. Officer A resists. Officer A escapes from Officer B. You now have one officer on the shift. This becomes moot and leads to internal destruction. Moderation team rules it as IC issue. Officer A is declared rogue. What now? Chase after Officer A? Lmao, no. A use of force is any kind of actual contact with the suspect.

It wasn't only this round. It was also the round where I was antag Assistant mistaking you for Captain via Command Headset. You were chatty in Command Comms., yes. Though, you remained holed up in Bridge or your office from what I saw. This is an easy improvement to make and this feedback should encourage you to socialize with people in a public environment. EDIT: I have no big issues with you nor do I think you are a bad person. You haven't been "prostituting"/"selling yourself" enough to everyone.

This is my honest opinion. Was an alright Corporate Liaison. Doesn't do much with the crew from what I see. As a HoP, I saw the CL as too passive and seemingly waiting for someone to approach the CL rather CL approach people to see if they love the company or not. Has good play, yes, but not engaging enough with the crew. Willingly died for a traitor and appeared as a suicide which is a good thing in terms of gameplay. I like his behavior and not telling people what to do because people already knows what to do but he is not presentable enough into our gameplay RP. I give neither +1 nor -1. A neutral opinion. EDIT: Feel free to contact me before the end of your trial for my opinion to see how much you changed for the good or for the worse.

Congrats.

This is an unpopular opinion. I agree with @IAmCrystalClear for some of the drinks we have. Some of the meta-morphing glasses we have should stay and some should go.

I was just going through the forums. This statement caught my attention and I had no idea it was prohibited. The wiki dictates and allows Trauma Physicians to be able to do surgery. This change was recognized, carried over, built on, and reinforced by @geeves and @Cnaym that Trauma Physicians can in fact do surgery. @MattAtlas, this brings me to ask you this million dollar question. Do trauma physicians know surgery or not at all? https://wiki.aurorastation.org/index.php?title=Trauma_Physician

I find this approach very interesting and in favor of.

I agree. I'd like to see more stealth.

Not sure if you're still interested or developer team interested in new sounds. I listened to your sounds. I like these sounds especially vaucrae chortle (sounds similar to Predator in my opinion). +1

Yes and MediaWiki Format is pretty much all you need to know to get started. It's fairly easy and more pickier than BBCode. That being said, you were an extremely helpful contributor and I will advocate you being on the team. We can explain more once you're on the team with what work, updates, addition, and deletion we need to do. Be well and be safe.

I can vouch that @CrimsonFig was very helpful to me. As you know, the wiki maintainer team at the moment cares how long you'll put in your time and effort into this wiki work. I have a "summer volunteer contract" with Coalf. You won't see me very active by the mid-August or end of August. I'll be back to college finishing up my last year of college. I just want to say something about programming. I applied to this position thinking I would learn more about programming. Turns out, I was wrong. I was dead wrong after experiencing work. There's no programming involved. It's mostly related to hypertext markup language/cascading style sheets. You will not expect Java, PHP, JavaScript, C, C++, C#, Python, or any of those kind of work. Also, I'm following you on GitHub as emr9018 if that's okay with you. I'd like to share three things that you'll get the mutual feeling as I do. I've mentioned this on discord and I shall mention it here again. Can audience read and understand the intended message? Is the information shown correct and factual? Is this what the admin team/related lore member wants to show? Let me know your opinions on any of the things I said above whenever you can.

@Garnascus I think the #serious_discussion is a success. There are people engaging in serious topics/discussions. I see no need for this thread to be up.

Be safe, old friend.

Is a good Head of Security. Showed a lot of passion and roleplay as an IPC Head of Security. Keeps the fun going, does not abuse authority. Uses authority to make the shift fun. Was a good IPC Head of Security doing a 4 hour secret extended changeling round where we were planning to bomb using a weaponized supermatter. +1

For the New Decade VC to have captions. If it's too much, it's fine. I can try to attempt it creating webhooks on my server with similar structure as yours. Not many knows but I'll just go ahead and confess it here. I'm deaf, I don't hear well on voice chat. I use captions and webcaptioner to help me get someone's message. It's just me trying to get involved in voice conversation. EDIT: So, for accessibility purpose.