rrrrrr Posted April 10, 2016 Posted April 10, 2016 hi coders can you make it so a tiny lawyer doesn't pop out and tell me how i, a responsible adult, is responsible for my actions when i open an emergency shutter it is REALLY FUCKING ANNOYING and i want the person who made this to die thanks!
Nanako Posted April 10, 2016 Posted April 10, 2016 agreed quite a lot of the time i just crowbar them open even when they're not flashing
Dreviore Posted April 10, 2016 Posted April 10, 2016 You two are the cause of depressurization spreading. If it's not flashing, it could indicate that there's no power to the room adjacent, and by opening the shutter you vent the entire area. Killing yourself, and anyone else nearby.
SierraKomodo Posted April 10, 2016 Posted April 10, 2016 You two are the cause of depressurization spreading. If it's not flashing, it could indicate that there's no power to the room adjacent, and by opening the shutter you vent the entire area. Killing yourself, and anyone else nearby. A little tip. If you shift-click examine a shutter while standing next to it, it tells you the pressure and temperature of adjacent tiles, even if there's no power. That tells you easily if it's safe, whether it's flashing or not.
Skull132 Posted April 10, 2016 Posted April 10, 2016 The prompt also fails because idiots with crowbars don't even get the warning. And those are the folks who do the most chaos.
Guest Marlon Phoenix Posted April 10, 2016 Posted April 10, 2016 Will be removed in next update by me. Please don't. It's a small thing but it's better than nothing.
Nanako Posted April 10, 2016 Posted April 10, 2016 Will be removed in next update by me. Please don't. It's a small thing but it's better than nothing. no, it's just annoying. it does nothing to stop anyone. The warning is completely unnecessary, and it's ignored exactly BECAUSEit's unnecessary. In almost every case where walking into the room is dangerous (like a breach inside it), the shutters will flash and deny you access anyway. I'm not sure why we even have non-flashing shutters
UnknownMurder Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 Actually, I prefer it to be there since it shoulders the responsibility on you for killing/sacrificing innocents under your actions. Those who ignore the warning, will be led shortly to their death. You died, because you didn't read warning? Someone died because of your actions? Tough luck. Again, this is there for a good reason.
Butterrobber202 Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 Keep it, It has saved me and possibly others many times
Guest Marlon Phoenix Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 If you ignore it that's your fault. The purpose of it is to make YOU the asshole because you're the one ignoring the warning, and you are held responsible for being a vacuum-spreading poop head. If we take it away people will go back to claiming ignorance or deflecting the blame, I've seen all this before. If you're claiming inconvenience then idk you have a super fast paced lifestyle. It takes less than a second to go through the warning, it doesn't even have to slow you down. If we remove it and just let people open shutters willy nilly then we might as well remove the darn things entirely - wouldn't want to inconvenience anyone! > ps im not mad
Nanako Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 and you are held responsible for being a vacuum-spreading poop head. breached areas are sealed off by flashing shutters. All opening non-flashing shytters does is redistribute air around a few rooms, which usually does more good than harm, as it repressurises one room while keeping the pressure in adjacent ones well above safe levels opening a door to a breached area is what kills. You can't do that without a crowbar, and when you do no warning is given anyway. No good purpose is served here
Skull132 Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 The issue with the warning is that it's useless in its present form. Shutters that are down due to engineering alerts will get locked with engineering access, as such, opening them without assistance is impossible. The only other way to open them is with a crowbar. And I don't think there's a warning for that! So, it's a pointless mechanic at this point, simply an annoyance.
Guest Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 The issue with the warning is that it's useless in its present form. Shutters that are down due to engineering alerts will get locked with engineering access, as such, opening them without assistance is impossible. The only other way to open them is with a crowbar. And I don't think there's a warning for that! So, it's a pointless mechanic at this point, simply an annoyance. This. It's just a redundancy and serves as quite the annoyance and time consumer. Time is not something those with engineering access have anyway, I think removing something that has failed to have a real purpose in order to simply stall people. Venting is part of the game. We don't really need handhold bandaids for everything. Let people receive consequences for their decisions, whether made in good faith or not.
Feorn Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 These were needed back in the day when emergency shutters didn't flash, and didn't require engineering access when conditions are unsafe on the other side. My very first round way back on Apollo years ago this message saved me. Doesn't seem like it would be needed to save new players these days. Since those changes, they're probably more annoying than anything else.
Owen Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 So, with this removed, will the shutters just open with a single click? Like how doors do? I don't know how I feel about that. I don't really think it is THAT big of an issue to click "Okay" when it asks if you are sure you want to open it. It takes a few seconds. Like, it has been a thing for a while and hasn't really been an issue. I don't think that the fact that a few people think it is "Annoying" is why we should just remove it. It makes sense to me, as stated before it makes the character and or player realize that if people die because you open it, it is your fault. If these just open easily, what is the point of even having emergency shutters?
LordFowl Posted April 11, 2016 Posted April 11, 2016 I don't like the game being filled with OoC warnings. This just breaks immersion. I don't image when my character is openning a firelock a NanoTrasen brand pop-up explodes in their brain.
Nikov Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 I've got to agree with keeping the popup. The annoyance of knuckledraggers comes second behind keeping in my god-damned air. If anything, change it from legalese to "DANGER: 3.2 KPA AT -140 C DETECTED." Have WARNING for amber alerts, DANGER for red alerts. Big bold text, bright colors. Make it useful rather than useless as a popup.
Brayce Posted April 12, 2016 Posted April 12, 2016 I'm also fairly certain you can skip the pop up if you use an object like your ID on the shutter instead of your empty hand.
afitz Posted April 14, 2016 Posted April 14, 2016 I personally find it more of an annoyance when I have people running around opening the shutters because they are in their way. If we remove the warning at least make sure the idiots die when they ignore warnings. On a side note, I would much prefer a small wait timer or something when ICly you must hold your ID up for 2 seconds or so. Just something that lets me back off during a misclick.
Conservatron Posted April 15, 2016 Posted April 15, 2016 I think a better alternative would be to allow engineering to deliver a lethal shock to anyone using a crowbar to force open a shutter but thats just me
keinto Posted April 20, 2016 Posted April 20, 2016 Flashing emergency shutters that are electrified and need insulated gloves along with the crowbar. Yes.
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