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Memes aside Lancer, that's an interesting take and analysis on the urban Tajara. I would have liked a bit more spice in it perhaps, PRA is supposed to be advertised as a "Classless society" due to their propaganda machines working at full swing. But I enjoy that your descriptions didn't amount to "Everything is shit waah waah", somewhat boring for my tastes but overall a good read. On regards to behaviour, you've been a pretty solid dude as I can remember, you had that one kerfuffle with fat giorno but that one made me laugh so whatever. Activity, well you are a head CCIA, I've never been a CCIA personally so I don't know what the uh "workload" is so I won't judge on if being one would impact your performance as a wiki developer. As a person overall you get my recommendation, but here are some questions. 1) What do you think of the lore amount? Should we compact it? Destroy it? Make more? Or do you think it's fine and that it's not really an issue, it just looks big? 2) What are your thoughts on the war, looking back at it would you consider it a good move that the Tajara lore team made? 3) What do you think of expansion? Where do you see Tajara going in the following years and what should the team focus on?

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I'd hope so yes. A lot of people view lore events as something grandiose that has to involve literally everyone and has to be the bees knees. And sure if you specifically create an extended round for an event, it should be this way. However, I have something I call; Mini-events (ME from now on) Events

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Just go to page 3 that's where the art is.

More addittions? I'd hope so, Tajara fashion has always been my passion. But I believe we don't have to make entire wiki pages for these things. A lot of things like art, music, movies and fashion can be shown through in-game means such as the news articles, small-time little events etc. Perhaps some new stuff to the overall lore but I can't say right now, I wouldn't want to do anything against Alberyk's judgement but I think a lot of stuff can be compounded/moved/shortened to reduce the sheer size of this lad. Naval? It's certainly an interestinig topic, but as Alberyk says "not on station, don't care". To explain, I'd rather focus on HOW this shows on the station and HOW players can "brag" or "Show this off" to others to ennunciate their culture rather than just shitting down another paragraph that 2 players will make a 3 round gimmick out of and then everyone will just forget it.

I've talked with Sue from time to time but not in any, large part thus I won't be judging character or anything but I can say that for the most part whenever I discussed something we were able to have a civil discussion. What I mean to ask is that while your takes are very interesting and that yes, the idea of adding so many war pages when it was supposed to end was maybe a bit, dumb, in the long run. The Tajara as a species have I beieve a whooping 25 pages of lore. Aren't you worried all of these addittions you plan are going to by-in-large bloat this even further? Would you propose a solution to this or do you think the amount of pages is perfectly servicable?

1. Homosexuality Is it needed? I can't speak for the intent of people who added it and approved of it being added way back when I wasn't around. You’d have to ask them. Do I and why believe it's needed? Because the factions aren’t supposed to be morally justifiable from a player standpoint. Being ostracized from society for something that is, not your own fault, is something a large part of the player base can relate to. This theme is further strengthened in the racism against Zhan, which a lot of people seem to permeate and allow without any issues. These issues should not be morally justifiable by a 2019 human, that’s the point, they ain’t 2019 humans they’re aliens cats for god’s sake Montresor. Why not just retcon it? People have been causing a big humbug over retcons for one. For two, retconning something because it is morally dubious is fucking stupid. There are plenty of issues on our server that are morally disgusting that people have zero issue with because they can’t relate to it, and so they consider it “foreign” and “okay”. Untouchables, murder, robbery, piracy, slavery, eugenics, all of these things are romanticised in our lore and roleplayed just fine by the same people who raise taj as a big issue. Yes, in the future I believe human ideas will show themselves more and more on Tajara culture, ICly, through articles and lore development. Why force me to? I’d agree if this was the default species, but you have to choose to play Tajara and understand the burden they come with. Not only that, you can play a gay/non-phobe Tajara. You just have to aknowledge it's not the norm. If you aren’t comfortable with playing a character who is prosecuted for his sexuality I’d recommend playing one of the following: Aut’akh, Elyrian, Eridanians, Skrell, Dionaea, Mictlanians, Solians, Dominians, Off-worlders, Scarabs, IPCs, Frontiersmen, Martians, Venusians and more. 2. Factions Loyalists? Nobody is forcing them to, but playing a character that is opposed to the majority of crew opinion is what provides a huge amount of roleplaying. Where gears grind, conflict arises and having a conflicting character is good for the server-culture as whole. Plus, people have been playing these characters for centuries but only now people are aware of this? It just proves that this is a fad, and when people find the next big thing to be outraged about they'll forget this. People dropping Tajara because of baggage? It’s not for everyone. Some people don’t want to play them because they’re space cats, I don’t take that away from them. PRA consular? And I have met a few that have helped people with their visas and working conditions. It’s a culture that is alien in a familiar way. I don’t see people bashing vaurca breeders for how their society is nothing more than a top-down monarchy with lobotomized slave-caste. Which I think is a fault, people can’t associate themselves with these problems, so they don’t care about them, they care about Tajara problems. That’s good! They should! It shows that people are engaging with both the good parts and evil parts of lore instead of just ignoring one side of the argument. Bad opinions? Read above. To summarize everything above: (if you don't like reading, just look at this) Factions shouldn’t be held to the standard for 2019 societal norms, doubly so if they’re alien. If people don’t feel comfortable with playing an ostracized homosexual, don’t play Tajara. People are not forbidden from playing a gay/non-phobe Tajara, just don’t pretend like it’s normal. Playing an evil/bigoted/hateful/homophobic/pirate/mafia/guwan/corporatists character is okay. If there are issues permeating Tajara lore, it’s to do with the sheer amount of lore not homophobia.

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Okay understandable, thanks for the reply.

I know most of these questions are intended for Alberyk to answer but I just want to ask so I know the intent. Tajara have been this way for about 4-6 years back when other people were lore developers/Lore master, and you say you wanted to apply for a long time but you also say you don't like how the lore presents itself. I think I'm understanding this wrong but you wanted to apply to a species whose lore you don't like or is it something that has been recently happening/trending with the playerbase?

Okay so, everyone knows that FT, Elyra, Mars etc. are factions that have been kinda left in the dust to make space to complaint about Sol for nearly two years, and you know I like that people in the new applications seem to be focusing on those and really giving it a big think. But I think there is too much human lore right now. Overall humanity is split into 6 factions with each factions having at least 1 or 2 sub-factions and Sol having a whopping 8 unique cultural factions. (Mictlan, Venus, Mars etc.) What do you think about this? Aren't you a bit worried that adding culture to FT is just going to go un-addressed by the playerbase simply because there is such a giant plethora to pick from? Do you think this should ever be addressed or that certain sub-factions should be cut out to make information flow easier? What's your overall opinion on this b...b.....bloat?

Big essay, very nice, not really my thing personally but it's not badly writen and it's cohesive. Although big question everyone is going to ask, do you plan to change anything about IPCs? There is a lot of talk about "uniting themes", about "limiting player freedom", where do you stand? More in favor of retcons and enforcement of lore to make IPC's have their "Own identity" or are you more about the "IPCs are fine right now they just need some fixing here and there"?

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Yes, what skull said essentially. Rewrites are from my experience, rarely employed on a large scale. Usually they involve a bunch of smaller steps in changing the trajectory the projectile was taking initially, specifically because large scale rewrites get people angry. In this way, It would be better to establish what constitutes as "large enough" to warrant an announcement. Dionaea are a good example of this, but same can be said about the wasteland rework or my S'rrendar and Messa rework. Filling in the blanks can be just as much of a rewrite for some people as is just redoing text. So the question is, do we announce it for those kinds of people too or not? Also what would happen to lore_canonizations, quite a hefty amount of those are rewrites but they are left out on the lore_can forum for weeks, months or even years and having to spend another week seems redundant. On that note I'd like to specify how this would be done, another discord server? Announcements on the server itself? A sub-forum where these changes get announced beofrehand? Putting it into the lore_diary? I am not opposed to this idea but I think the suggestion that is up right now is too hasty and not fleshed out.

What would this encapsulate though? There are a lot of things that get changed in lore which could be considered "soft" rewrites or retcons which can still chuff people. Sometimes even slight wording changes can make a difference in how people view things. If something like this were to be considered, then I believe it would also need a clear defined line of what is to be reported this way and what not, or at the very least a guideline by the heads. Since having people announce every few weeks they're rewriting something in lore channel or lore diary is just going to lead to people muting it.

I think this is an important lesson about impermanance.

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Alberyk can be fairly hard to communicate it, I appropriate a large part of that to the sheer scope of responsibilities that lay on his shoulders and so whenever he views something as "minor" or "unimportant", he tends to get dismissive which can come off as uncaring and insulting. Yet this dismissivness gives a sign that he actually does care quite a lot about Tajara lore and server, but he chooses to show it by simply shutting down arguments that could spiral out into drama with a no-nonsense attitude. Further, he remember a lot and while I personally believe he sometimes impacts themes for the sake of things being fun or station-integral I ultimately cannot say that's a negative thing, in the end the lore serves to service the game and server and making a fuckton of lore that cannot be linked back to the station is completely pointless. He has an intensive backlog of work, every aspect of Tajara lore he has introduced has been welcomed by the Tajara community as positive, his characters often link back and use lore in a manner that is engaging and whenever me or mofo introduced a part of lore he's made sure to shape his vision around it. To summarize, while his no-nonsense attitude can get annoying, I've never found it egregious enough to complain in any major way or for it to impact me or my work. Alberyk has the drive, the skill and the know-how to drive Tajara lore forward in the right direction and he's been a big part of tajara lore development for a major time.

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Bump update, I added even more stuff.