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The custom items that are requested here and normally done so to enrich a character’s backstory and development. I really, really think you should take some time to read the other threads because I can’t see this adding anything to your character.

This is for custom items. I have never requested a custom item myself but, there is definitely nothing custom about this. How do you think this contributes to roleplay? All this does is give you an advantage over everyone else because you start with an item that nobody else starts with, (besides Engineers.) I think you need to re-read the pinned forum post and probably just close this thread.

What a lovely story you’ve made for your character. So much personality and you haven’t even played them yet! Maybe it’s because I’m bias in liking overly posh IPCs but, I definitely see potential in the character you’ve laid out in this application. What do you think would set you out from other Librarians and make you unique? Do you have any ideas that you’re going to incorporate into the job?

I genuinely thought you were already a spriter??? You've done so much! I love, love, love when you show me what you've made and I couldn't think of anyone better to design new wacky stuff than you.

@nonno_anselmo Hiya, thanks for the comment. Only now that I've combed through our old messages did I realise how spiteful and vindictive they were. It lines up with your experience to a T. They were constantly and I mean constantly complaining about other players, admins and PRs. When they were punished or one of their ideas was turned down, they would take it as a personal attack and spite the individual responsible. I’ve made sure to send all the evidence I have to the admins. I won’t post any screenshots here until I’ve got the confirmation from the admins to do so.

Thank you for taking the time to comment @Estoytrucha and thank you for sharing your experience. What bothers me the most is how they’ve changed their characters, (to interact with me without me knowing who they are) a total of three times, not to mention the ckey changes, and the discord name changes. It’s incredibly strange to try and go under somebodies nose and continue to follow them and be able to interact with them, by using a pseudo character. If they’re doing that in game it makes me wonder why they’re constantly changing their discord username along with their profile pictures. Let alone the apparent ckey changes they’ve gone through.

BYOND Key: Goolies Game ID: b77-aEY4 / OOC Player Byond Key/Character name: amshaegaar, Uat’zin Anah, Kssol’tok Guwan, Optikam Mhapikss Staff involved: Readthisnameplz Reason for complaint: Incredibly creepy behaviour in game and out. Following other characters around the entire round, (when asked not to) and then switching characters to avoid confrontation whilst simultaneously then following other characters on the new one they made. They would make vaguely sexual comments in LOOC and insist on inserting themselves into RP situations. It hasn't just happened to me and several other players have ended up complaining about it to Read. I am going to ask them to post their experience with Amshaegaar in the comments. A lot of the time too they'll engage in relationship RP with the person they follow around. When I was friendly with them, they initiated this on one of my characters through several rounds in IC. It didn't bother me and I assumed that they wanted to continue said RP. I messaged them on Discord and they had a complete meltdown saying that they're constantly barraged by people wanting to "fuck" their characters. We didn't speak for a while because I was a taken aback by their complete change of behaviour. This is one of the reasons that the complaint has been very delayed because of the way they act on Discord. They come across as rather unstable, whining to me about how the admins had treated them in past situations and it's effect on their mental health. How they're "used to" people being horrible to them and the "life they live" being filled with mean individuals. When they were punished in an unrelated situation, they left all of the Aurora servers and changed their picture to a completely black background and refused to speak to anyone. They've done this multiple times now in reaction to punishment given out by an admin. I didn't want to draft a complaint up because I feel like I'm a rather fair individual, and if someone is bothering me I simply cut contact and leave it be. Unfortunately that didn't work in this case and since there's other people who have also been negatively affected by Amshaegaar, I thought it would be wise after finding out others were involved, to make one. What made me decide on definitely making a complaint was after I found out in a recent round that he was making new characters to interact with one of my characters, (Bling-35) after I had told them over Discord that I did not want to talk to him anymore and that the admin involved had said that I could completely blank them in game without being punished. They spent their entire round following around my character only leaving the department my character worked in for a few minutes at a time. Another character, (Taika Thomson) who has also been followed around by Amshaegaar and who Amshaegaar was not meant to speak to, was there also. Did you attempt to adminhelp the issue at the time? If so, what was the known action taken by administration/moderation? Me and a few other players affected have been talking to Read via Discord. Most of us came to the conclusion of just blocking Amshaegaar but, Read also said that we could avoid them in game without any consequence. It was going well until Amshaegaar started to make new characters so that he could talk to all of the players that had asked them to cut contact. It was obviously them and I asked Skull to verify this, to which it was confirmed that it was him on a new character. (A few other issues have popped up but I won't speak for other players. I have asked them to comment their experience with Amshaegaar and any others who are reading this who feel like they've had a negative experience, to comment it also. Thank you for reading and this was most definitely a last resort.) Approximate Date/Time: Started back in April and has been continuing on since.

It would be silly to just remove it all. Even if it would be boring as hell, it would be best if every individual book was reviewed.

AIMMO explained it much better than me! A better word to use would be a quirk, instead of a law. It gives them a random quirk, changing their personality until either the set time runs out, or they're fixed by a Roboticist. I wasn't suggesting they're given laws by the random event, but more so what AIMMO said.

I just think the ion random event is wasted potential when it could be fleshed out so that it rivals in quality to the other random events. At the moment? It hardly happens. The RP that entails when it does happen, is often memorable and interesting. Also? It's 2AM. I'll be headed to bed after I've posted this and I'll be responding to comments tomorrow. Probably have a few more cohesive arguments to sway you over with when I've actually gone to sleep!

I was under the impression it would of been easier to implement without any hitches but you're right about the lore stuff. That's what discussions are for though! I'm sure we could figure something out once more people post their opinions and general ideas.

Thought this would bring a lot more RP to the ion event situation, especially when there isn't an AI to receive the laws the event gives them. Not only that, but it's kind of rare to see an ion law in play, so this would make it more common. It could definitely add flair to an antagonist if they were an IPC. You could even base an entire gimmick of some of the laws that are thought up. I wanted to make this, after discussing this topic in the IPC Discord and, to see what all of you thought. You could maybe draft out some ideas for some laws that could pop up during the event. From goofy, to serious to maybe even harmful? The only downside I can see to it, is if it were to happen in extended and that would probably bring up a lot of canonization problems. Would you really want your character succumbing to a law that forces them to speak in tongues? Probably not. Then again, it would be funny! That's kind of the whole idea. Like when the AI get's one of these laws, it should be funny and lighthearted. Comment your opinions! (Just wanted to clarify. I'm not suggesting that an entire new law system is put in place, when the ion happens. IPCs cannot be lawed, but they can be messed with! Their personality could go haywire, they could become obsessed with something or someone completely random or have their desires and whims changed. There isn't any laws involved. I just couldn't think of a better title since I imagine, the ion laws code would be used to make this happen. A better way to explain it, would be comparing it to the bio-hazard alert. Instead of a disease, the IPCs get sick with errors in their programming.)

Hey! That's me! x) The Medical staff were accusing me of putting "bodily fluids of questionable nature" in the protein shakes I was selling, because I said one of them was fat. That was a great round! I didn't sell any after that.

Thanks to @MattAtlas for coding everything! Here's the GitHub link if any of you want to check it out. https://github.com/Aurorastation/Aurora.3/pull/8417

@StationCrab @Natiform It's all about finding the right balance between it being too easy or too hard. There's a lot of surgery related ideas, which I really like. But for other antagonists like Mercenaries and Ninjas, won't it be a little too challenging for them to find a safe place to actually perform said surgery? Let alone the surgery table. I think as long as it's not an instant M1 convert IPC, it'll be pretty balanced. Maybe add a timer? Give the IPC a whack, handcuff them, get their radio off, swipe the emagger against their stupid dumb head and boom. You gotta wait a bit, and they're converted. That's fair enough. The good ol' bonk on the head and drag into maintenance is balanced as balanced gets. They have ample time to scream for help.

@StationCrab You think it'd be hard to implement it? What'd you think would be difficult specifically? Most of the code is already there from malfunction. I'd hope any coders that decided to put their mind to it, would have an easy job of getting it back in.

I like the idea, but I don't think it could warrant a full two hour round, (Maybe if we could try flesh it out with more ideas?) I can see it being a random event, though! Like space carp, scrubber malfunctions and the lot. All the situations that could unfold from someone harbouring an egg that could potentially contain some monster is fun to think about.

Wouldn't be much hassle to implement an item, would it? Maybe some coders could look into it? I don't know jack about coding or how to transfer one mechanic to another. Relying solely on admin intervention when there's a chance we could get a fully working item in the game that does the admins job for them, is totally worth it.

Also, this. I think we've all had that moment as an IPC where you go, "Oh. It's vamp." And kinda just sit there not being involved.

It's a pretty high risk, low reward for an antag such as a ninja or merc to try sneak around and upload it. But then again, I can see it working. Especially with the merc / ninja teams that make themselves known to the crew and try to pose as friendly or helpful. They could probably get away with quickly running up to an APC without anyone noticing. The general consensus so far though is that it's OP and definitely needs a rework if it is going to make a comeback.

Now that AI malf has been removed from the rotation, a lot of its better features have been lost. I think one of the most exciting things for an IPC player on a malf round was to jack into an APC and then get hacked by the AI. It was always fun to be involved in the action, and tons of IPC players I've spoken to really miss it. I think the easiest way to bring it back would be in the traitor loadout. I'm not sure what changes should be done to it, but that's another reason why I made this thread. It would probably need some rework to work better than it did, and to fit in with other gamemodes. What's your opinions? Do you miss it? Do you hate it? Comment below! I'd like to see what other species who don't have an IPC whitelist would like to see what happens with it.