Garnascus

Locking and archiving.

Cool beans Ban lifted.

Alright what say you @Yonnimer and @HouseOfSynth given the further posts in this thread? I personally think its fine to unban them.

Wait... they've been relatively incident free but there was still an overall concern and thus it was not a no-brainer of unbanning them due to being incident free? I dont really understand here. If they are incident free since they got banned they should be unbanned? We've got at least 1 warning that has now been expunged correctly and another thats got issues. What do you think @HouseOfSynth @Pratepresidenten

Its bizarre to me that this is at all controversial. Suspicion is naturally going to escalate if you're part of a vox merc team and one vox gets caught breaking into the vault. The rest of you are probably going to get detained as well at the very least. Its the team's responsibility to communicate and make sure everyone is on the same page. You have AOOC for a reason to setup rules beforehand. Players will definitely ahelp in both situations but that is because its what everyone does when they die, including me. It does not mean its wrong. This is not new policy. Its how we have always operated stretching all the way back to doomberg. We just keep forgetting to add a definition of gank to the rules.

Still tracking this. Sorry for the long wait. I will make another post going over some points approximately 15 hours from now.

Well if they are literally killed on sight on moghes i feel like you could make strong arguments for throwing mecha reptar out an airlock. I cannot tell if this is realistic and good roleplay or frustrating and bad roleplay....

This is not what staff complaints are for you idiot. This should be a general thread or something. Staff complaints have generally been to overturn staff decisions.

so i will just go point by point in some things that i find a bit suspect. 1. @HouseOfSynth I cannot help but find your denial in the initial unban appeal a little worrying. In your own words xander seemed to have you convinced they understood what they did wrong. You denied it anyway and cited their behavior. Normally "you've had too many chances" is fine when someone is appealing a third or fourth permaban but when it comes to a job ban it puts it in this really awkward spot. Is this security job ban just supposed to always be an albatross around xander's neck? I am not saying your reasoning here is inappropriate. I would like to ask though what a situation in which xander does get unbanned would look like though. 2. Now it is totally possible that i am missing context in both of the notes that @Yonnimer provided but they do present some issues to me. The first one seems to be about a journalist "frontlining". Which, funnily enough a journalist is one of few jobs you COULD justify doing that. The closer you are physically to the carnage and bloodshed the better story you have. Long as they arent fighting antags i honestly think this is something that makes the journalist unique in their goals. Perhaps @ToasterStrudel can provide some greater context. The bulk of the note appears to be centered around a "long drawn out discussing in which xander insulted staff". I admit this can be par for the course for xander but it is possible this should not have been an issue. 3. The note by @Shadow7889 also appears to raise some questions. Let me preface this with the complete understanding that mr. shadow here is currently undergoing a trial process. I do not intend to slam you or kick your butt. This note however does appear to be very vague and does not really give us a lot of information to work with. "less involved with antags". Well what does that mean? What antags? Pirates? traitors? Did they prioritize a wizard over a dieing assistant? They yelled in all caps? If we compare it to the note set by toasterstrudes it does stand in stark contrast. I am not looking to cast any blame here or punish anyone. Just investigating! I would like to hear what all the parties mentioned have to say given my post here.

This is a Christian server kaed and its very problematic that you are trying to infringe upon our ideals.

@LorenLuke I am headmin and this is a complaint against a developer. Such is the area of @Skull132 and @Arrow768. I do not handle complaints against staff not in my department. I think the issues raised about his over dramatic attitude are valid though.

Hello I will be conducting a review of this complaint. I have already notified prate and yonni that i will be doing so. I will post all of the various points and onions i have here in this thread and we can go from there. This might take me a few days or more as i am currently pretty busy IRL but i will get to this ASAP.

fucking admins They arent lazy they just always forget. Its announced regularly in discord.

ok

ok thank you Is there anything else @AmoryBlaine

@ShameOnTurtles I mean he says he shouldn't have done it.I think you should just unban him.

Alrighty ban lifted. locking and archiving in 24 hours.

oh, yeah. Same thing though. follow le rules. Whats your discord key?

I will get to this as soon as i can. Im sorry some things have me pre-occupied until the 1st.

I would be blindly speculating if i tried to think how short it should be. Its prooooobably not a huge issue if its too long to start though. We can always make it shorter.

These changes are a good direction to take changeling in. I have one issue though. It says that the absorb DNA takes as long as the normal succ. The normal succ took.... quite a while and thats a long time to ask to stand adjacent to someone. It definitely should have a time but im wondering if just making it the same is a little too long. Added to it a lot of characters never let people get within a tile of them.

yeh this one https://github.com/Aurorastation/Aurora.3/pull/5865

alrighty, unbanned. Read the rules. Dont break them.

Excellent. The warning is hereby expunged from your record @stev . All that remains is a note detailing that a warning was expunged because of this complaint. Said note is not in any way against you, your character or your behavior.

I hear what you're saying but i am afraid the answer is no. We feel the mode has something to offer to warrant keeping it. Removing or disabling the mode is effectively a death sentence. Nobody works on features that are not enabled.