Antag Contest End: Summary And Feedback

[Guest Marlon Phoenix]

Information taken as of 1:30am MST.

In total, 1110 characters were involved in the contest.

Percentages for character counts are rounded approximates. If I get my math wrong anywhere else I will be deeply embarrassed.

 

Characters In Each Faction

1110 Total Participants

Independents 201 (18%)

Synthetic Liberation Front 290 (26%)

Biesel Intelligence Service 142 (13%)

Alliance Strategic Intelligence 176 (16%)

People's Strategic Intelligence Service 83 (8%)

Hegemon Shadow Service 103 (9%)

Tup Commando Division 113 (10%)

 

Mission Success Ratio

IND 75% (3 of 4 won)

SLF 53% (24 of 45 won)

BIS 53% (10 of 19 won)

ASI 60% (12 of 20 won)

PSIS 50% (1 of 2 won)

HSH 30% (4 of 13 won)

TCD 57% (4 of 7 won)

 

The spread of mission types.

 

Status Of The Week Long Events

Out of 5 contests ran over the course of the week, only 1 can be considered to have been a pro-synth victory. That is a success rate of 20%.

IPC execution: -Sol Victory

The station was ordered to executed several IPCs. One was afk the other one got executed. Firing line with ions. Crew did nothing about it except a whisper every now and then.

IPC Auction: - Sol Victory

IPCs were all sold on station with little fanfare and 21,301 credits in profit. Riots broke out, but little was accomplished. Much of the crew violence happened as a result of one of the purchasing party's decision to turn in a sol detractor in order to make sure a shell was sold to him. The issue people took was with his decision to turn on a coworker rather than his purchase of a synthetic. However, many were openly upset with his purchase because it meant they were unable to purchase the "female" shell themselves. One IPC, a shel, was even used as a target to experiment weapons on.

Shell strike team - Republic Victory

A strike team of Shells and an HK Killbot managed to capture the body of the station's Sol officer. Most of the shell squad was destroyed. Some of the crew sympathized with the SLF agents and helped them fix one of their damaged agents and help recover the posibrains of the destroyed shells.

IPC execution - Sol Victory

Happened during deadhour. Two IPCs. One was executed on the spot the other one tried to flee. Was captured after a 30 minute chase because it ran out of battery. Was destroyed and then spaced.

IPC execution, again, - Sol Victory

Three more ipcs were executed, crew did nothing about it. They were spaced.

The Flight of Admiral Frost - Not Scored (Stalemate If It Was)

The final event wasn't entirely about synths or anti synth, so it's not being scored for the sake of the contest. Long story short, after a lot of dead bodies, he got away.

 

Adjusted Total Success Rate

49% Pro-Synth

48% Anti-synth

Note: We had to do some math with pro_synth/protect_robotics vs anti_synth/sabotage, as well as pro_synth/protect. Each scored event was worth a point.

 

What do we take from this?

The issue of synthetic emancipation almost immediately took a backseat to human nationalism and resistance to the Alliance invaders. Sol Officers and Representatives acted with zeal and often alienated the crew, solidifying anti-Alliance factions.

The Synthetic Liberation Front has many members, more than other factions, but their success rate is roughly similar to other factions. Pro-synthetic forces were not able to break the playerbase out of the mindset that IPC's are machines and nothing more - our event on the IPC auction clearly shows the sentiment of IPC's being luxury items is entrenched.

However, synthetics have grown to become patriotic for Tau Ceti. Many of the efforts to resist the 33rd were focused around Synthetics and resistance elements working together to subvert the Alliance. We've seen a new wave of Synthetic Nationalism taking root as many IPC's fought and died in defense of the Republic - whether out of genuine ideals or cynical self-interest.

Pro-synthetic forces revolve around grassroots populism - there is popular support but they struggle against the power structure.

There are many fascinating contrasts that have played out over this event, and I think we can call this...

 

Close Synthetic Victory

 

What does this mean?

IPC's will eventually be open to enter command roles. IPC's will PROBABLY be covered under regulations as crew rather than property. In the future, IPC's will PROBABLY be given the ability to self-heal damage.

Edited March 6, 2017 by Marlon Phoenix

[Faris]

Will the fact this was a very close victory for synthetics mean the end result is different that a total synthetic victory?

[Guest Marlon Phoenix]

They're getting command. The other stuff will be decided - it was very close, so giving them everything would be a little on the nose.

Outside the mechanical question (assignments and self-healing) they're certainty going to be the center of contention for quite a long time still. Our server, and characters, are all deeply divided over this, so it won't be a smooth transition in the lore or the station.

[Garnascus]

IMO with it this close they should only become "legally people" and thus it becomes murder killing them. Allowing them into command is easily the heaviest option and something i would have thought would have needed a total synthetic victory. With it being this close toasters have no business being in other command positions.

[Faris]

Is there a chance for these changes to be reverted in the future due to the setting moving forward?

[Shadow]

Is there a chance for these changes to be reverted in the future due to the setting moving forward?

Yes, in the next antag contest that will happen in 2 weeks.

Memes aside, I agree with Garn.

They shouldn't be viewed as property anymore and destroying them should be murder, since this was very very close I wouldn't allow them to be in command.

[ToasterStrudel]

Alright, my opinion time. Honestly I think self-healing would take out a lot of interaction with crew for synthetics, so that should probably be crossed out. From what I know, synthetics were not allowed in most command roles because they couldn't be trusted, sot hem being patriotic and attempting to repel tbe 33rd fleet by risking their lives should have proven they can be trustworthy. Out of the three options, I would wrather command roles stay a thing. #letmebeanIPCIAA :^)

[Butterrobber202]

Bucket heads. -1

[Felkvir]

You have to actually recognize how absurd it would be to a vast amount of people IC'ly if /synthetic/ beings were allowed into command positions. A synthetic risking its life is very different to an organic risking its life. Synthetics are even expected to be exposed to more danger, and by their nature operate on a level different to organics. In my opinion, they should also be covered under regulations but not in the same way as organics..

Also, was this rigged? Strange question but eh.. I feel like more people were for both sides, people were indifferent or felt it was okay wether they got some rights or not. And I saw plenty of people who supported the Sol officers and representatives inbetween.

[LordFowl]

You have to actually recognize how absurd it would be to a vast amount of people IC'ly if /synthetic/ beings were allowed into command positions. A synthetic risking its life is very different to an organic risking its life. Synthetics are even expected to be exposed to more danger, and by their nature operate on a level different to organics. In my opinion, they should also be covered under regulations but not in the same way as organics..

Also, was this rigged? Strange question but eh.. I feel like more people were for both sides, people were indifferent or felt it was okay wether they got some rights or not. And I saw plenty of people who supported the Sol officers and representatives inbetween.

No. The results are based solely on antag objectives and event outcomes. I did quite a lot of math and am willing to share it with Jackboot's permission, but the gist of it is that no matter how you crunch the the numbers pro-synth wins by less than 5%.

[Ultimate Shrek Fan]

Wait so synthetics lost all but one event and it's seen as a close synthetic victory?

You said yourself IPCs were sold off as property and routinely executed. So how would this translate into command roles or a close victory? You said emancipation got swept under the rug by the government that didn't want them to be considered anything but property. So why would they be allowed command roles? If anything it should be a loss for synthetics and that should give the SLF more grassroots support

[SierraKomodo]

You have to actually recognize how absurd it would be to a vast amount of people IC'ly if /synthetic/ beings were allowed into command positions. A synthetic risking its life is very different to an organic risking its life. Synthetics are even expected to be exposed to more danger, and by their nature operate on a level different to organics. In my opinion, they should also be covered under regulations but not in the same way as organics..

Also, was this rigged? Strange question but eh.. I feel like more people were for both sides, people were indifferent or felt it was okay wether they got some rights or not. And I saw plenty of people who supported the Sol officers and representatives inbetween.

 

These numbers aren't just from the past week, but the entire antag contest that's been going on for months, I believe.

[ClearThoughts]

I think a lot of this was really the crew not doing anything because "Sol Marines are getting deployed to your station. Dont interfere" And the therefore fear of bwoinks. I think i only once ever did attack the marines and it was with a Lawgiver. There was solid crew Verbal support but nobody made moves as per fear of bwoinks because "Self antag". Hell, even when i Lawgiver'd the marines, i ahelped just to make sure i could do it. I think there could have been a bit more encouragement to the playerbase to get involved with the event.

Despite that, I quite enjoyed the event and the excitement it brought. I am also quite amazed at how much effort was put into this. Bravo, admoons. Bravo, lore team.

[Synnono]

"Sol Marines are getting deployed to your station. Dont interfere"

This, generally. Our rules surrounding believability, self-antagging and our general discouragement of people standing out makes for a lot of confusion around when it's okay to make exceptions. It's the same issue that plagues a lot of Rev rounds, without the benefit of having the big R antag icon over your head.

All in all, it was an interesting scenario which opened a few avenues for characters to RP in new ways, so I like how it went. Thanks to everyone who put this on and spent time planning/communicating.

Things could have gone more smoothly if certain expectations were communicated more clearly on both the staff and player sides of things farther ahead of time, but for what was shared I feel like the execution went well overall.

[Xelnagahunter]

Wait so synthetics lost all but one event and it's seen as a close synthetic victory?

You said yourself IPCs were sold off as property and routinely executed. So how would this translate into command roles or a close victory? You said emancipation got swept under the rug by the government that didn't want them to be considered anything but property. So why would they be allowed command roles? If anything it should be a loss for synthetics and that should give the SLF more grassroots support

 

Keep in mind that the "one success" was only out of five events run this week alone. The antag contest has been in operation for some time with normal antagonist rounds helping to push odds in the favor of one faction or another. In the long run, pro-synth factions did a lot of work and in the last week they were largely suppressed due to threat of force. Those events and the 20% pro-synth success rate vs the 80% anti-synth success rate, adjusted the final totals to create the 49%-48% (which I assume includes 3% neutral) victory for the Pro-Synth movements and organizations. So the Synths win a small victory in the long scheme.

[DatBerry]

I think a lot of this was really the crew not doing anything because "Sol Marines are getting deployed to your station. Dont interfere" And the therefore fear of bwoinks. I think i only once ever did attack the marines and it was with a Lawgiver. There was solid crew Verbal support but nobody made moves as per fear of bwoinks because "Self antag". Hell, even when i Lawgiver'd the marines, i ahelped just to make sure i could do it. I think there could have been a bit more encouragement to the playerbase to get involved with the event.

Despite that, I quite enjoyed the event and the excitement it brought. I am also quite amazed at how much effort was put into this. Bravo, admoons. Bravo, lore team.

 

if you mean the announcements on discord, they were made because people were coordinating armed uprising during rounds that nothing had happened, synthetic nor biesel wise. just because of the event's canon, which wasn't enough justification on it's own.

now if your character is pro synth and those solarian bigots start selling/executing robots infront of you, you can escalate the situation to the point where you can shoot the marines easily, not to say just to run up to them and shoot them, but starting with protests and into riots.

and when in doubt, ahelp. we have trials staff for a reason.

[ClearThoughts]

I think a lot of this was really the crew not doing anything because "Sol Marines are getting deployed to your station. Dont interfere" And the therefore fear of bwoinks. I think i only once ever did attack the marines and it was with a Lawgiver. There was solid crew Verbal support but nobody made moves as per fear of bwoinks because "Self antag". Hell, even when i Lawgiver'd the marines, i ahelped just to make sure i could do it. I think there could have been a bit more encouragement to the playerbase to get involved with the event.

Despite that, I quite enjoyed the event and the excitement it brought. I am also quite amazed at how much effort was put into this. Bravo, admoons. Bravo, lore team.

 

if you mean the announcements on discord, they were made because people were coordinating armed uprising during rounds that nothing had happened, synthetic nor biesel wise. just because of the event's canon, which wasn't enough justification on it's own.

now if your character is pro synth and those solarian bigots start selling/executing robots infront of you, you can escalate the situation to the point where you can shoot the marines easily, not to say just to run up to them and shoot them, but starting with protests and into riots.

and when in doubt, ahelp. we have trials staff for a reason.

 

Yep. In my post I mentioned that I contacted admoon-men about it to clarify that my character wished to shoot the marines, and got greenlighted. So, all is well. When in doubt, ahelp. Especially if its about Alb's sexuality.

[Skull132]

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