[Resolved] Character complaint against Alicia Forest

[Knightroid]

BYOND Key: Knightroid

Game ID: bQr-cZiq

Player Byond Key: Alicia Forest

Staff involved: DatBerry

Reason for complaint: I have played multiple rounds where the Tesla engine has gotten loose or almost gotten loose because of actions taken by Alicia Forest. Whenever confronted about it, the player replies that it's her character's gimmick, that she is obsessed with the Tesla. There are several reasons why this is unrealistic. First, someone who is obsessed with a critical station system that can cause significant destruction/death if malfunctioning would most likely not be hired in the first place. Second, Alicia Forest is a maintenance technician. I seriously doubt that a maintenance technician would realistically have necessary skills and training needed to set up a station engine.

In addition, whenever the Tesla gets loose, it cuts the round short, interrupting the flow of the RP

Did you attempt to adminhelp the issue at the time? If so, what was the known action taken by administration/moderation? Yes; no action was taken that I am aware of

Approximate Date/Time: 9/13/17 4:45 PM EST

[Superiorform]

I was going to make an IC report on this, but the player has kept the character alive, and obviously deaths by tesla are uncloneable, I don't think the player wants the event in question canon. One time, she intentionally misinterpreted an order from the CE, and this resulted in the tesla getting loose. As a self proclaimed expert on the tesla, it couldn't have been an accident. This is like overloading the SM, or bombing the station as non-antag. I *think* the actions resulted in three deaths, and I know it resulted in an emergency shuttle at one hour... on extended. The event either has to be canon, and the character gets rekt by CCIA, or it is deemed as an OOC issue, and the player stops fucking about with the damn tesla, in my opinion.

Oh, just saw this: https://forums.aurorastation.org/viewtopic.php?p=84157#p84157. Are these the actions of one who wishes to stay employed? Is this at all realistic?

[moltenkore]

Yeah it's getting a bit silly now.

I play the CE in question (Akela) and they definitely intentionally skewed my orders as I've given the exact same order in previous rounds. But hey whatever on that one.

The latest thing is as you can see by my IR, Alicia is even willing to fight security over the damn Tesla now so not sure why Central would keep her around. Gimmick gone too far IMO.

Edit: I would like to see it resolved ICly, maybe a ban from the Tesla and mandatory shrink visits.

Edited September 13, 2017 by Guest

[driecg36]

As someone who plays CE somewhat regularly, I can agree, there is ALWAYS conflict about the tesla with alica forest. Every single round I have to tell her not to build the tesla, something which she is vocally displeased about.

Honestly, I think it's more a problem with the tesla than it is with the player. It is outrageously easy to sabotage, and often leads to early shuttle calls, which is why I ban it every single round as CE unless there is an absolute emergency.

[Faris]

I have noted how obsessed the character/player is with the Tesla. I'll see about getting them to post their thoughts here.

Would it be possible to get time stamps in the form of round ID's or an approximate amount of times this has been witnessed by the people that have posted?

[Garnascus]

The player was warned on the 11th of august for constantly letting the tesla escape. Did they continue this behavior at all past this date?

[Superiorform]

The player was warned on the 11th of august for constantly letting the tesla escape. Did they continue this behavior at all past this date?

 

Yes, she has done it in the past week.

[Faris]

The player was warned on the 11th of august for constantly letting the tesla escape. Did they continue this behavior at all past this date?

 

Yes, she has done it in the past week.

 

The 11th falls within the past week. Did it happen after or during the 11th?

[Superiorform]

The player was warned on the 11th of august for constantly letting the tesla escape. Did they continue this behavior at all past this date?

 

Yes, she has done it in the past week.

 

The 11th falls within the past week. Did it happen after or during the 11th?

 

Garn said August, not September, I think.

[Garnascus]

Shit, thats my bad. i meant "september". Misread the date on the warning.

[Diggey]

I would like to see it resolved ICly, maybe a ban from the Tesla and mandatory shrink visits.

 

I would love stuff like this happening more aboard the station,compulsive characters having to go to a psychiatrist

I certainly know a few,one of mine included,who could use that :'D

[themaskedman2]

So, from being pretty active in the engineering department and being active in quite a few of these "tesla" rounds, Alicia needs to stop, it's gotten silly. I understand it started off as a gimmick of "I really like the tesla." but it has gone too far, every round I see them they are acting ridicolous with the tesla and practically priming it to be released.

The round where she intentionally misinterpreted orders can be described by me in no words other than "A childish fit" because she didn't get her way.

Whether this is an IC or OOC issue I think this needs to be resolved. If this is an IC canon event, theres is ZERO reason NT would keep them hired, or at the least allow them ANY access to the tesla anymore. My personal preference would be a forced demotion to apprentice, or some other IC resolution, because at this point Alicia has gone from being someone who really likes the Tesla to essentially insane in their obsession, no reason anyone ICly would be allowed to work in that condition, especially without some form of psychological treatment or medication.

Slightly off topic note: Tesla is way too easy to sabotage, and people who treat it like this give it an even worse name. Little idea, maybe there should be "Tesla Netrualization" machines that destroy an escaped tesla, at the cost of maybe a huge EMP and Average sized explosion, so it's less of a round ending event. (Unless someone sabotages those as well.)

[hivefleetchicken]

Isnt this the person who grabs the mime mask every round from the hidden theater and pretends to be a mime?

[Arrow768]

Shit, thats my bad. i meant "september". Misread the date on the warning.

 

Yes, I noticed it in a round after the 11.Sept.

A engineer requested that the captain refuses the tesla to be setup (out of fear that it might be released again).

The captain ordered that the tesla may only be setup if supervised by a CE (who was not present at the time).

Forest was very insistant about setting it up, but understood it after a lengthy talk with the captain.

Imho, that is nothing that could not be handled ICly with a ban from the tesla and forced psych visits.

[Garnascus]

As long as they are not setting it up and then causing it to be released i do not see an OOC issue.

[Butterrobber202]

As long as they are not setting it up and then causing it to be released i do not see an OOC issue.

 

then its an OOC Issue?

read the thread, that looks exactly like what she's doing imo

[Scheveningen]

The power fields to the tesla are bugged as fuck right now and depower in seconds for absolutely no reason at all despite the room APC having enough power to power all of the devices in the room. It doesn't matter if you wait until the field generators are fully charged by emitters, even if you enable all of them in sequence, the field is gonna fail.

I've tried close to six times in a row to get the fields to work right and they only fail the moment the tesla enables itself. It's obviously because the tesla turns the very field generators that are supposed to contain it, offline.

[moltenkore]

The power fields to the tesla are bugged as fuck right now and depower in seconds for absolutely no reason at all despite the room APC having enough power to power all of the devices in the room. It doesn't matter if you wait until the field generators are fully charged by emitters, even if you enable all of them in sequence, the field is gonna fail.

I've tried close to six times in a row to get the fields to work right and they only fail the moment the tesla enables itself. It's obviously because the tesla turns the very field generators that are supposed to contain it, offline.

 

Yeah, this is due to the powernet glitching out and the best way to test for this happening is using a multi-tool on the wire to take a reading of the power available. If it's at zero then admoons will have to force a powernet remake.

As you say, it happens more than we'd all like.

[cloud]

As much as I like Alicia, I've noticed she does this quite a lot. Furthermore, she keeps the particle accelerator at 2 and unnecessarily feeds the tesla to maximum capacity (18 balls iirc) and keeps the accelerator at 2. This is completely unnecessary, and keeps the thing active without more PA juice for about 50 minutes longer than it needs to be. It's absolutely fine at 3 balls but her character refuses to take that knowledge onboard, even from CE's (mine included).

A big reason I've noticed that the containment field fails is if the tesla strikes the APC connected to the containment SMES, it disables equipment. I've never had an issue putting a grounding rod in front of that window. Another thing that bugs me is taking emitters from hard storage, which are generally there for emergency blob containment and stuff, and feeding the containment field with these. Just like the singularity, only one emitter is needed per two field gens. So this is just irritating and pretty catastrophic when there's a blob or worse. Maybe some hazard shutters in that area that the tesla can't discharge into would be nice? Or an official guide about placement on our server.

Also iirc that bug with the powernets in the tesla engine room was fixed. I've never had a containment issue with a grounding rod in front of the window with the APC and keeping the PA on at 0 with about 4-5 balls. There's no need for anything more than that and keeping it at 18 balls with constant 2 power is, pretty bluntly, dumb.

[Alicia Jewel]

It should also be noted that Forest is a 21-year-old Maintenance Technician with only 5 years of experience (which means she started at 16?), meaning she doesn't meet NanoTrasen's qualification standards, and is supposedly one of the top 15 Tesla scientists. I addressed this ICly as IAA Alexis Carter, but I'm not sure if any further IC action was taken by the captain of the round.

[Garnascus]

This thread specifically mentions a round on the 13th. Any info on that specific round to help me sort through the logs?

[Scheveningen]

It should also be noted that Forest is a 21-year-old Maintenance Technician with only 5 years of experience (which means she started at 16?), meaning she doesn't meet NanoTrasen's qualification standards, and is supposedly one of the top 15 Tesla scientists. I addressed this ICly as IAA Alexis Carter, but I'm not sure if any further IC action was taken by the captain of the round.

 

Xander mentioned this to me in the last round and that part should be amended. They should be 27 now, and the crap with the tesla snowflakery should be gone as well.

[MattAtlas]

This thread specifically mentions a round on the 13th. Any info on that specific round to help me sort through the logs?

 

If this is the round I'm thinking of, then I was there.

Moltenkore was the CE, he was playing as Akela. There were problems with the tesla, obviously because of Alicia. She apparently turned all of the emitters on, denying the CE's orders. I could go on, but that's probably enough. Round ID was bQr-CZiq.

I have seen Alicia's behaviour with the tesla happen twice now and it is pretty upsetting. Her character has an unhealthy obsession with the tesla that shows every round she's in, and in some rounds she brings it way too far. It's not an interesting quirk anymore, it's just annoying now.

[Faris]

I don't think it's intentional and as far as I'm aware Tesla's still have this odd chance to fail for a plethora of reasons. And I haven't really seen any reports of it being released due to Forest's negligence or gimmicks since this complaint was placed? They've already been warned about this and if it does occur in the future, you're all encouraged to ahelp it.

[Lady Fowl]

Last time I saw it was a like two weeks ago. Giant tesla ball tumbling through the station killing people.