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Thanks, anyways to address this further. You are right, I didn't have this in mind, however I think a Tajara specific departmental jumpsuits would not be a bad idea, mainly so that everyone stops sweating so much (And ignoring the sweating messages). To elaborate on this issue, so far the mindset was "Tajara have a cold planet, I should give them warm clothes!" This has lead to majority of Tajara clothes causing heat messages themselves which is just dumb. This is the main thing I plan on removing since more than one player expressed their annoyance at not being allowed to look good while at the same time not getting spammed with redtext. Honestly most of the clothes so far planned (and sprited with the help of Bauser) are only meant for fancyful occassions or hardcore dockworking like miner, cargo tech or assistant. But I'll keep your feedback in mind and see if I can make more accessories in general as those don't really break the dress code.

I support this policy because it already exists. It exists in the form of staff, what do I mean by that? The fact is that no matter how long and grandeur your backstory is, I have the last word, well not me specifically but also Alberyk, Prate, Flimango, TrickingTrapster, Shameonturtles, Ezuo, NursieKitty, Exia, DatBerry, Aboshehab, Garnascus and others equally important people but with names I won't bother typing. I live in the Czech Republic. Berry lives in Egypt, Catnip is an Australian,. Garn is from America Alberyk is Brazillian. 2-3 years ago Aurora had 30-45 people on peak hours, this is the norm now with peak hours reaching 60-80 people. We are the number 1 HRP server on the hub :confetti_ball: . Server mentallity has COMPLETELY shifted atleast 3 times, with people liking IPCs, hating IPCs, wanting cloning, hating cloning, wanting brainmed, hating brainmed etc etc. But do you see what I mean? It is impossible for us to see and manage people by case to case basis, I've come to a disagreement with Nursie on Jenn's IPC previously which had to be adressed in a complaint. Which was resolved by? Alberyk, a staff member. Another example, I can say yes to someone and Flim says no. Who is more right? Who is less right? We have absolutely NOTHING to lean on regarding this, outside of begging Garn or Aboshehab to resolve it between us, neither of which considers that to be the height of their day. This is why I not only WANT but I think we NEED something for us to lean on, because in the end this is a voluntary job and I don't want to receive a staff complaint for every case of me saying "No" to someone. Yes, it is pedantic but because we NEED to be pedantic now. We are no longer a small family server with friendship circles. Our players are most often complete strangers. Each one with radically different opinions and ideas. Also I find the "Too realistic and Too hardcore" a bit ironic, mainly when during the last two complaints that were raised about this people started showing up with IRL examples and IRL comparisons instead of using gameplay or in-game lore as a reference. tl;dr, yes I think we need something, perhaps not something THIS restrictive but something me, other staff and players can lean on when deciding "What is too much/little" EDIT: The whole thing was fucked up regarding sentence structure, re-did that.

What the fuck man. The point is that an IPC with a spare body will be easier to dispatch, I.E die faster, I.E need another body, I.E need more time and materials! These bodies take time to print and playing robotics daily I can tell you majority of the time I do not have the materials to keep even the borgs active, If I did have this stipulated infinite amount of materials you assume robotics has for making bodies, I'd just print myself a Phazon and run the antag over myself. Even IF someone can pre-print bodies, why? Why would you pre-print bodies outside of perhaps powergaming or being asked by an IPC that works a very dangerous job specifically? You can easily ahelp these things and we can easily spot these things, just as we can easily spot when a cargo tech is cloning people. So yes, having to print an entire body, equip it with neccessary organs, assemble it, take out the brain and put it into a new body overall takes more time than taking a brain out and putting it back in while I beat the body with a welder and cable. And EVERYONE is weak to leg removal excluding dionaea. Not just IPCs.

That's what this compensates for, the inherit weakness of the prepared chassis. Instead of punishing a player by a period of a waiting time it punishes them by giving them a weaker body with which they'll have a harder time to powergame with.

There is one strenght you forgot of the IPC and that is being the T-1000 of SS13. By that I mean it literally is unable to die unless specific conditions are met, those two conditions are. 1: Nobody who can reset it is present 2: The positronic brain was deleted. 3: The body was deleted. Outside of that an IPC is unable to die and a retard robotics who is day 1 in his job can revive an IPC in less than 5 minutes after following a guide. EMP and Ion damage is randomised, it takes good 2-5 hits depending on your luck. This is dumb, however a bad mechanic that is currently in the game should not dissuade you from putting a good mechanical punishment like this into the game. It SHOULD make you want to remove shitty instant death mechanics like EMP's. (Which I heard Kyres and Cake are working on adjusting/fixing/removing) Sytic, nanopaste repairs internal components, fixes all types of damage regardless of type AND IPC's can use it on themselves to self-heal, it's basically a DOOM health kit. Again, something that Kyres and Cake are hoping to work on eventually. I agree with Baselines or perhaps a more generic uggo industrial being available option at the cost of materials, the sprite presented by alberyk is currently way too visualy close to the clasic cyborg sprites for my liking. Also for all the people going "U JUST HATE SYNTHS!!!!", I mean holy shit look at yourselves and the character you play most often. I bet he is most likely a synth so stop using this as an argument. What species you play is invalid as long as people have a mechanical understanding of it. OPINION ALERT OPINION OVER, YOU CAN LEAVE THE NUKE SHELTER So yeah, I support this.

While it's not enforced anywhere, I would recommend forcing a Bachelor's on chaplain as every crazy dumbass can claim to be a chaplain while in reality you require atleast something in theology. Also I can bash 17 year old chaplains with a dwarf beard over the head with this in that case.

Since the staff member that applied the ban is no longer present in the staff team and a considerable amount of time has passed since your last offense, I shall be lifting the ban however I recommend giving the rules a quick re-read and familiarizing yourself with the relatively new "no-job hopping" rule. Appeal accepted.

I support this fire buff, as of now using a flamethrower or flame weapons outside of flooding a room with phoron is about as effective as dropping my mixtape. My biggest issues are that flametrhower does absolutely nothing and the molotovs tend to simply shatter against someone and set the tile below them on fire while leaving them un-touched, superheated air tends to be way more dangerous than the actual fire which is just confusing but I bet an IRL firefighter is just about to jump on me and tell me how wrong I am about superheated AIR.

Fair enough.

Please fix your formatting first.

Is this not also true of toxins? It takes a little bit of real-world knowledge to unlock the potential, and then the sky's the limit. Still we see that the potential isn't widely abused because if the scrutiny always placed in it - if you overstep whatever invisible threshold is there, you get in trouble, IC or OOC. Personally, I've always thought this was a strength of the role... It plays very uniquely because of that barrier, and is rewarding if you work through it. Now, whether or not it's overpowered... Seems to depend on what you try to accomplish with it. Like toxins, again. Well 1: The use of toxins is limited due to the obvious rules. 2: Toxins still takes about 10-20 minutes as you need to properly heat up/test the canisters if they actually work. 3: If you fuck up toxins once, you're dead. Technically telescience takes time too, but it's not mechanically enforced as you wait until phoron heats up, the only limit is your own calculations.

The issue with Telescience is that, unlike every other job it doesn't have a climb. While every other job restricts you artificially by either not having everything unlocked immediatly(robotics), requiering materials(science), needing other jobs to assist(Chef/botany), have to wait a certain time before it procs(Entire station/SM), rely on uncommon mobs/RNG/positioning(Xenobio,security,cargo,mining,xenoarch) or simply have to build up to a point (chemistry, virology). Telescience like Chaplain and Psychologist, relies on your IRL education and math skills, not how well you can memorize the wiki or how good/lucky you are at the game. This creates a large divide, the people who know how to calculate it which makes them feel smarter and the people who don't know how to calculate who only feel dumber when doing this job (me). This leads to one side calling it powergaming, as you can simply use software/spreadsheet to calculate 1:1 ratio in the first 5 minutes of EVERY round no matter what happens with zero research (unless someone literally sprints in there and steals your crystals) while the other calls it easy because "Everyone can do it". It ends in one side afraid of using it for being labeled as powergamers just by using it on ANYTHING and the other bashing it as powergaming because of how it requires IRL knowledge and thus is extremely easy for some and unusable for others. The job of telescience benefits you when you put a single round of effort into it and then you never have to put the effort in again as the formula is completely identitcal each time (with minor number adjustements),

The coding issue is assumed, because unlike a fryer you would need to click on the machine itself with your empty hand (While the mob is kept underneath it) which would need to register as a valid container (since dispenser won't dispense without a beaker) and you would need to click on the specific condiment each time.

Not a bad idea, however I doubt this would be easy to code. Perhaps make them work like fryers, when you shove someone under a chem dispenser a completely random chemical is dispensed onto them or perhaps the last chemical selected.

It would be appreciated if you made a "Post-essay" thread where the playerbase could give input after everyone(majority) has submitted theirs.

I accept your apology and I likewise apologise for getting overly hostile in Msay or if I came off as overly "ban hungry". But we shall not come to an agreement regarding both those points and thus I'll wait for Alberyk's resolution.

Tight. District 5, "Homewood", not only for the ironic name but also because frankly if he came from a worse district, why would there even be a Xenobotany exhibition there? But because District 5 is right next to District 6 which happens to be a lot worse and thus would allow the owner to keep up his somewhat shady practices without having to ride god knows where. This gives me an idea. This guy already harvests the xenoplants for drugs, Nymphs are pretty dang edible and hell perhaps you could call them a rare delicacy as I assume not everyone is growing nymphs daily and knowing how to exactly cook them as they would need acid, but guess who gets access to acid. That's right, acids are pretty common in proffesional gardens as certain mixtures require them, (I've actually heard this from my local florist who I delievered roses for a while, apperantly it's cheaper to mix your own weed killers than buy ones if you're skilled at chemistry) So let's say this guy grows nymphs, feeds them fatter rats than usual, let's them bulk up and sells them out for slaughter, I'm guessing he'd probably keep them in a room with a very limited light and movement, just like growing animals on the black market. WSFTS stumbles into the back, finds these pretty dumb, limited and fattened nymphs and thus it is most likely easy for it to convince them to merge together and leave it as the leading Dionea, however most likely it gains absolutely nothing regarding knowledge or understanding and it would feel somewhat dissapointed, this would teach it an important question. That even Dionaea can be weak. The thing is, if you're working as a bouncer nobody really checks who you are, doubly so when you're a dionaea, while yes their names stand out, face by face they're almost identical. Thus I'm guessing it wouldn't really grab much attention or raised eyebrows if it applied for the job, got it and only then working towards its green card. Biesel Institute of Medical Science, popular choice as it must be the strongest. I guess you are right, however I don't want to close off this character to one specialized environment and would rather keep my eyes open to new possibilities. I already played a surgeon many many times and you could call this OOC attitude influencing IC, but basically I wish to see a bit more. Additionally: Fuck it, he's 80 why not.

Hi. So far yes Also correct. Thank you for the compliment. Biesel, with how laws take nymphs as animals he simply kept it as a pet. Seeds he most likely acquired legally as I said it was more of a xenobotanical exhibition where the owner abused the fact he had access to so many xenoflora to do wack dope. I am not exactly sure if nymphs in-game work the same as nymphs in-lore as you can plant a pod and harvest it, if that's not possible I'd guess he managed to talk his way into a nymph or two splitting from an existing gestalt under the promise of xenobotanical endavours. I do realize I left it out, however a Museum/Exhibition is a public thing and in public things tend to break pretty often, in a botanical exhibition doubly so as there are hundreds of lights to provide the proper amount of lumens. It simply observed someone breaking a lightbulb, tried it for itself, perhaps it got hit by a current or smitted by glass. The owner came over and replaced it, it tried to scurry up and he he hit it. It's why I wrote, if I remember correctly, "For the tenth time he broke the lightbulb", to show how slowly it learned by itself and the keeper being a lazy stoner basically never bothered to change the type of lightbulb or maybe build a fence around it it was more like ape-ish learning, repeating a task over and over, trial&error. What changed, well the incident changed the small Nymph, while yes it was content and a mighty mouse foe, it realized it wasn't strong, the keeper owned it, he was the strong one. Additionally Nymphs are curious creatures and I assume it looked at the keeper as a giant bank of information and curiosities. Regarding the last question, I'd imagine they discovered the body of what they knew or atleast strongly suspected was a drug taking keeper with the lid to a nymph enclosure open and him next to some illicit substances. People that abuse drugs tend to get cought on the smallest on issues and give up, I imagine he gave up on searching for the nymph after a few minutes and opted to blaze himself in order to cope with the negative emotions. Of course I ommitted all the explorations of the house as I wanted to "get on with it" as my brain slowly collapsed in on itself. However it was a combination of it wanting to be stronger than the owner and also the fact it simply never got any other interaction with any other living creature outside of eating it. However SUCCING the keeper gave it quite the understanding on what is and isn't allowed. Then it differs from the in-game mechanics as I assumed if it simply gained enough biomatter it could turn into a big boy. But I guess not, I'll rewrite that later today then. I admit I left this out because I hoped you wouldn't notice, I couldn't find absolutely anything on the wiki on how a dionea can acquire a citizenship (as far as I know) and I was halfway into my application at the time so I felt like asking would only lead to me having to redo the whole thing and losing all drive. I'm a creatively impulsive person, this character concept has been in my mind for a few weeks however just that day I went "yeah why not lol". So allow me to ask, how would it be possible for a stray Dionaea to acquire citizenship on Biesel? Don't get me wrong, it was interested about psychology and I believe it probably read a few academics works in its free times. However that isn't strong, knowing what someone is going to do is easy, humans are predictable to it if you know their mindset, if you know what exactly makes them tick towards a goal, this wasn't strenght. And there is one thing no warrior is able to beat, no matter how extremely powerful, giant, monumental they are. Death. Beating death is in itself an expression of strenght, being able to revive someone and quite literally ripping them out of deaths hands is strenght. WSFTS quickly realized that "Strenght" isn't a physicial concept. Jimmy over there was "stronger" than Amy, however his dad was stronger than Jimmy. The owner was physically stronger than the nymph, but that didn't stop it from "beating him". It realized physical strenght is fleeting. Same with the IPC, The Soldier, The Drunkards in bar. The IPCs could have perhaps ripped their owners apart, however their morality kept them from becoming strong and not dying, moral strenght. The soldier might have been physically stronger than the IPC, however his emotional state has shown that he could be destroyed by other means I.E his wife divorcing him and him having no abillity to subvert it, juristictional strenght. The Drunkards were strong, even if they were weaker than WSFTS, but what made them truly weak was their addiction that tied their tongues and made them stumble around, the strenght of addiction. But a surgeon? Who can really surprass him outside of natural death or complications? Nobody. Age is what I avoided, but I very much stressed a lot of "waiting". Someone doesn't get money to get enough education in a few years, I'd estimate it somewhere between 40-50 years old. However I think I'll be changing them from surgeon to a general Medical Doctor as it makes more sense for them. As standart a doctorate I.E 10 years, four year residency in the local hospital and one year course as a masseur. I can't really tell what the last thing was as I never gave it any thought. However what the last two truly mean is the title of it as a licensed physician. And the fact that it expressed that NanoTrasen is de factor the strongest company and thus it is only logical to work for them. Here you go :v)

I'll roll back on the Paramedic, sure you can make standart chems for your belt. I'll roll back on Rail, not because of "Muh IRL" argument, but simply because Sytic came out and said that you do only ONE brain operation. Prior to that post nobody really specifed what "Allowed to be surgeon" means, yes you did say you "I also need to re-iterate that, with Rail particularly, I am now at a point where people know him for his specialties. I am often asked by Kyla Milne, for instance, to take care of cerebral trauma cases as they come in. " This never really specified anything and frankly I'm more prone to trust the wording of notes as players tend to sweeten up their complaints. Still I'm not okay with putting my hand in the mouth of the metaphorical Fenrir for this and again, I don't think we'll reach a consensus on this because. LET'S BREAK IT DOWN You mean the rules? A made up set of unrealistic expectations and restrictions which the players are not allowed to break? Yes it feels "unrealistic" because having rules upholded by invisible gods who can as much delete you aswell as turn you into a corgi isn't very "realistic". HRP =/= Realism, our setting is in no real way realistic outside of basic believes we hold IRL, I.E that gravity exists, that humans aren't insane and that we don't eat food through vomitting our stomach out on it and letting it digest externally. More like IRL, maybe, more likely in-game? Doubtful, refer to above post. Yes, just as we might let a CE setup the engine and build and AI core while not letting an engineer do that. Yes, just as we might let an RD work in Robotics and RnD. Yes, just as we might let the captain be both a captain and know something from a department they come from. Yes, just as we might let the HoP have the skill to be both good at shooting guns and paperwork. Yes, heads are expected to be more skilled in their departments. NO, this doesn't contradict what I said earlier, they are expected to know MORE, not everything there is to know. It's called balance, there is only one CMO on the entire station and his job is whitelisted for a reason. To make sure that players don't use these roles as extra-access doctors/psych/surgeon/chemist/virologist hybrids. I could say "Yeah but MD doesn't mean neurosurgery," however that's dumb and a shoddy excuse so I'll concede that you're right on this one. Alright, how does this make you different from any other person who said they know this and this and that? The backstory? Your species? Your age? The things they used to defend their skillsets over and over and over? "My security officer used to be a marine, so of course he knows how to fix bones" "I'm a Dionaea, so it means I can jobhop because they're smarter than humans" "My surgeon is 70 years old, so yeah realistically he can have 4 doctorates" This is a game, throwing balance and fairness out the window because of RP is how servers die. Yes, sometimes we make OOC staff decisions that ruin things ICly, this is how things work. While yes me bwoinking, Smacking of Wet Noodles, the Dionea cargo technician, who decided to clone his friend because "No doctors was around to do it" might distrupt the fact he spent the last 3 months of his gameplay telling everyone how good at cloning he is but it won't make me change my decision. Because he has too wide of a skillset. All in all I am not willing to back-up on my second claim. Let's see what Alberyk has in store.

I agreed on the paramedics thing, I don't plan sending a personal perfumed letter to everyone saying I already accepted that was my mistake. https://forums.aurorastation.org/viewtopic.php?f=107&t=8850 This is what I'm using and this is what I'll be using unless specified by deciding staff, JB or Cake respectively. I do respect what you wrote, I read it and I aknowledge you know way more than me in this. I am not academically read or even casually on medical sciences. However you could be Dr.Phil writing to me from CNN and I wouldn't back up on this, this is a game, there are standarts set by someone and I respect those standarts and enforce those standarts. I accept it is possible to do REALISTICALLY however REALISTICALLY cats don't sing. And I am not willing to make an exception in any sort of PsychXSurgeon crossover. Jenn I can't respond to you any other way than, you have to grit your teeth through it. I didn't mean to "kick the ball away from you", instead I hoped to reach a consesus with Cake and you regarding the paramedic thing, I admitted it was my mistake I misinterpreted it, I don't know what else you want regarding that if I could do a frontflip I would. My position on Rail Psych/Surg stands and at the time Nursie and Cake agreed with me, not sure if they still do but hey, admin decisions change, I'm only human, they're humans, you are human, investigations don't get postponed until both parties are unstressed, we seek to do them as best and as fast as possible. Again, I fucked up, I said I fucked up, I said I'm willing to change the note. But No decision is concrete, everything is subject to change.

It is specifically against rules to know "too much", and if you see CMO's doing practically every single job in medbay you should most likely ahelp it. The role of a head allows you SOME flexibility but you are not only not expected to know every job but you are also discouraged, a head knowing every job just means it's some asshole who whitelisted to get extra access. You should probably ahelp that, however do take in mind most CMO's simply have Chemistry/Surgery and skip out on every other job like Virology and Psychology which you don't see because those two cases rarely need to be treated. That is acceptible. That is arguable, but comparing a skrell to an IPC is like comparing a Tesla and a Jet Car. Sure the Jet Car is way way faster but put it outside its lane and it crashes. The Tesla is reliable but not prone to going off-road. Also we have yet to see a Skrell with a too wide skillset since the new update hit, most likely because skrell are "not in" right now. The cheating was too much perhaps yes, but what I called ""cheating"" is not against the rules so I most likely wouldn't be bwoinking for it, I shall bwoink when a skillset is considered too wide, I have already allowed certain individuals to jobhop when they provided a good enough explanation and backstory and there is a reason why I'm not the only admin you can message if you want to multi-job, we discuss these things. I have no idea what you tried to say here, sorry.

While a psychiatrist is yes, a licensed doctor a paramedic has a COMPLETELY different meaning and I mean COMPLETELY on a country by country basis, aditionally Nuerosurgery is an extremely specific and extremely dedicated thing and so far as many people I've discussed this they agreed it's a bit too much. For example we do not distinguish between a Paramedic and an EMT, in some places there are no EMT's, in some places there are strange and weird amalgamations. THIS is why we have the medical guideline, we are a server with made up rules and made up history. There are people from cultures all over the world and ergo someone had to set a certain standart for medical, which was set and I shall always reference it. Furthermore I don't think it's fair that certain characters are allowed to jobhop while others are not, I dislike jobhopping in general and if it were up to me I'd forbid it completely, thus I can seem a bit more strict. However a Surgeon is already a very contested role, if my memory servers correctly after the Medical Doctor it is the most picked medbay job and a character created SPECIFICALLY to play in that job should all in all have the right to be preffered when picking that job. The whole power and excitement of SS13 relies on the jobs being important, on the fact that when a vitali link is missing the whole station operates slower. When nobody can setup the engine, no power is generated. When the surgeon goes traitor? People are going to die. When mining falls down holes? No minerals are being made. Wide skillsets inhibit this play and in the end gimp antags and their efforts to sabotage a round by simply going "No it doesn't matter you targeted surgeons specifically so it would be harder for security to recover, MY character can do it too." I'd regard that as cheating.

What is it with Unathi and losing their limbs, it's like the Ken dolls they just come right off constantly and have to be replaced. Joking, the story is good enough I'd say more interesting and more refined than your Tajara story, I feel like you had a clearer picture in your head when making this and it really shows. Outside of that Geeves is a fun player to have around, sometimes he stumbles with his roleplay and can get "rushy rushy" into antag/exciting situations with characters that shouldn't really be there. However it has yet to pose a problem outside of a minor eyeroll from me. So yes, he gets my :thumbsup:

Well darn tootin' dangit, I've come to a bit of a different resolution with cake m'self and it was perhaps my fault that I didn't pry for further info. You see the thing I focused on in that image is the "emergency" part, I.E "Literally nobody else can do this job so I shall do it" rather than the standard chemistry and that is perhaps my bad. BUT I'm not an unreasonable person, I took steps to let you get used to these new restrictions we set in place. When you asked for a second opinion I called Alberyk which I frankly needn't do, he agreed with me. Even then I worded my vote that it is subject to change as I said that I'll speak with Cake, however I saw his comment in Lorechat about contacting certain people and thus I waited for him instead, which did arrive and I did change said note where he more or less agreed with me on the situation that was happening where you were stocking the fridge as a paramedic. And let me shine a light on this issue, as this wasn't the matter of a single interaction and I certainly wasn't "hunting you down". This all started way back, I have been below average on my server activity (Gotta love that RB6:Siege) and even if I do join the game I don't pay overt attention as I'm either playing my Mechatronic Engineer or ghosting antags since those tend to be the wrench in the rule machine most of the time, so I was not aware of Swift doing things, Rail being a surgeon or JAIS bypassing restrictions thus it might seem like I "Jumped" on you, but this was simply due to the fact that one thing attracted my attention and it led me to taking apart your whole tapestry. One day however a message dropped in admin or moderator chat, can't remember which, where someone asked something along the lines of "can a paramedic deconstruct doors". This peaked my curiosity and I started to explore, on the other side I found you, Jenn, not only saying in Msay "It's okay because you just rip out some electronics" to the at the time mod, but this ahelp was sent by the Chief Engineering who offered his help in deconstructing the door which you refused and told him you can do yourself. While mechanically it is "ripping out some electronics", we also don't let non-engineers upgrade the SMES because "It's just changing a few breakers". It requires you to not only know you can do this, but to weld the door shut, locate the position of those electronics and successfully pry them out. This is on the level of hacking a door open. But I trusted the judgment of said mod, thus I simply worded my displeasure in Mod Chat and quit pursuit. However next time I was on server I got another ahelp, "Is the paramedic allowed to make chems to stock the fridge?" I wasn't sure at first so I looked at the medical guide provided by JB, "NEVER" it said, okay. Thus I bwoink you, you once again bring it into Msay, okay, then you also take it into dsay because Kyres1 was present at the time and he supported you. You even called for a second opinion. I bwoink Alberyk, he comes on agrees with me. At the time I had the guide JB provided, my thoughts and Alberyk's second opinion against you and Kyres1 so I assumed it was reasonable to note you. Yet still I was open to criticism and so I left it subject to change as I told you to contact Cake about it if you find it a problem who later contacted me about it. You decided to cryo, leave the game for 20 minutes and then reconnect as another character. Fast-forward a few days and it's dead-hour, the CE goes into cryo and you ahelp if you are allowed to setup the engine as "You don't want to get yelled at over radio", you asked for this because your IPC, Creatia, as you said yourself can only build things. Me and Flim agreed on a no as it would be breaking character and instead I said I'm willing to join as a borg and set it up, I needed to look at engineering anyways at the time as I've never worked the job and wish to learn a bit about it. So you decide to take your grievances to dsay where a player was asking about something, I think the CE, where you decide to call our restrictions "assbackwards". Now at this point I admit I was angry, in my mind I extended my hand to you and you spat in my face for it. So I said "Pick one job and fucking stick with it, everyone else does it", which was on my end overly aggressive in hindsight. Realizing that I immediately started typing up "If you're upset over these changes go to the forum and address the issue instead of calling them "assbackwards" because you don't like them, Abosh and everyone else worked very hard to create a base on which every player could agree on and that would be fair to everyone", note these are not precise quotes but the closest I remember them. When I finished typing this I noticed you type, "Don't, I'm not in the mood for this" which made me even angrier as in my mind I saw this as you being able to call us out but us not being allowed to shoot back, I judged you're not made of glass and sent the above post having written the extra "Neither am I in the mood" to the beginning of this. You responded by going to cryo, disconnecting and then joining back 20 minutes after as another character. Later that day I explored your notes further and I found something very interesting, "Rail is allowed to be a psychologist and a surgeon", this is in your notes, however it relates to your tendency to make characters with wide skillsets and other people can see you int those jobs so I'm not afraid to share it. I discussed this in administrator chat and a few people seemed to agree this was too much, however I withheld my judgment as this was note by [mention]nursiekitty[/mention] and not me and opted I'll bring it up with [mention]CakeIsOssim[/mention] and see if he agrees with me, after all I am stepping on his toes. However Cake was one step ahead of me and contacted me we had the above discussion, I talked to Nursie and she agreed that Rail being a surgeon AND a psychologist is too much. As neurosurgery and psychology are about as related as shoe polishing and shoe making. On the above I wrote the note. This morning [mention]ShameOnTurtles[/mention] hits me like a blunt, saying that you're making "basic chems for EMT belt", I referred him the previous discussion with Cake and exclaimed my own personal distaste with EMT/Paramedics in general requireing Bicard/Dex+/Dermaline as these three chems basically make anyone that isn't a surgeon obsolete since they can fix anything. This had no relevance however as Flim told me and I admitted to. I'll gladly change the wording of this note and I agree I misinterpreted it, thus you can consider the complaint resolved. Response to additional notes: So no, I wasn't harassing you, I was doing what I do, moderating. I am en equalist, if something bites the rules I'll swipe at it be it a player, lore developer or another moderator. Perhaps the fact you've never really experienced a serious bwoinking before this plays a part in you thinking I harassed you. Furthermore I don't know why you said, "I'm not here to get further upset at anyone.", when you bring up JAIS to make yourself look like a bit less of an extreme, this is manipulation. If you had an issue you should have either ahelped, made a player complaint or PM'd an admin instead of using them as a distraction. Additionally, Thanks to this Cake and Kyres have been pushed to work on a synthetic specification faster, making it easier for anyone in the future. to specify this and I've personally been told what I should consider a wide skillset or not regarding IPCs by Cake. If you have further issues, https://forums.aurorastation.org/viewtopic.php?f=107&t=10337 this thread about jobhopping is STILL OPEN FOR ANYONE WHO IS READING THIS AND YOU CAN EXPRESS YOUR THOUGHTS AND SUGGESTIONS IN THERE.

Everyone said what I wanted to say more or less, RNG is not a good balancer and Telescience is barebones as is. Sure you can "Guess" where that shit lands based on 8th grade math but getting the machine to actually hit 1:1 reliably is a bit trickier, mainly now when the map is so fucking big and we have 3 layers.