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Addendum: If you want to properly fix this issue, turn blacklisting from "X hours since first time logged" to "X hours played" This would actually be effective in giving people time to learn the game mechanics themselves rather than jumping into these gamemodes.

Alright, let's take it form the top. Issue 1: Publicity and the role of an antag. Issue 2: The Curve Overall this is based on a lot of opinions and annecdotal evidence. You're on a different timezone, I'm on a different timezones, my experience is that antags tend to be overall average-good with the individual noobie or some such learning how to play said antag. It is also impossible to accomplish, literally, every single thread would devolve into ad hominems, shouting matches, annecdotals and unsupported evidence as the only way to prove someone was a bad antag would be to review an entire round. The whole fucking thing in a .txt document with no visual ques, good fucking luck. "But staff is present" Yes staff is present but we cannot remember every single antag round that has ever happened, many of us ghost or sit in the lobby listening for ahelps or actually play the game, leaving us open to our own personal bias. Hell some of us ARE the antags and I've seen multiple staff members do thins which I personally didn't like as antags, oh yeah personally there is that word again. Tl;dr this is not only improbable but actively distruptive and server sinking.

I support this.

So let's get started, first good feedback although a bit short it's still nice to see you have multiple people who are willing to vouch for you. You have a few notes but nothing outright bad, OOC explanation is satisfactory and for IPCs it is indeed irrelevant how old they are before they apply. However. I've seen a few comments on and off forum that you have a slight rebelious streak not only with your characters but (according to one of the notes) you yourself like to stick up to the authority from time to time. Now, the former is not an issue the IC and OOC seperation is an important thing however the latter is indeed a problem. You see, giving you a whitelist is going to enable you to create ANY character as ANY head and sure Ob-iwan Servobi over here is neat and sticks to his job this doesn't mean you'll later create new characters which will breach the proper whitelist procedures. But I'm willing to trust you, so don't dissapoint me. Application Accepted.

Application accepted.

Heyo sleepy, I got an absolute unit of a question for you. What do you want? Everyone who joins lore (as far as I know) has had wanted to do SOMETHING to a species, be it as minor as more quality control to something as big as making an entire new line of sprites and mechanics. So what are you planning to influence Jackboots on? Further I'd like to ask IF JB was kidnapped by the Brazilian Mafia and seceeded his position to you. What would you do with the unathi species? Would you plan to change anything or let it rest like this?

Locking and archiving.

"Just because one miner is incompetent or doesn't want to provide materials, doesn't mean you have to hate the whole department." "Man science is shit, this dude didn't give me upgrades!" Co-dependance, science can't make upgrades or progress properly until they get materials, mining can't progress properly without science making upgrades. Provide half the materials, demand an upgrade, deliver rest of materials after an upgrade is provided. This is called, interaction. In essence, firing pins for mining and as developers agree firings pins weren't a bad idea, no? Jokes aside I do agree with Dronz, the KA needs to be a TAD bit stronger or atleast enough not to make mining a death march but more of an inconvenience without the upgrades. Something you don't NEED but would be great help to have. Removing the whole thing would be idiotic, it IS on the correct way however it still needs to be fine-tuned as with every PR that hits live.

Now me and Burger were in a bad spot, I made a complaint about him he made a complaint about me and we moved on but for the sake of fairness and to avoid being accussed of holding a grudge I'll only raise issues I have encountered a month after the complaint when we have not spoken at all since like forever. Now first off he's active, very progressive and a lot of changes he implemented were very useful and/or cool, sometimes both. I appreciate those changes. Further on github he took my feedback with stride, taking what I said into consideration so I don't have an issue about that, he's been respectful and I haven't seen him salt in deadchat as much. So what happened recently man? Specifically I'll talk about the Dungeon thread in which you've replied to Kaed with, to quote; "Then perhaps when the pr gets merged (it will) you can modify it to your liking :)" I get that not all feedback is useful, but replying to someone like this seemingly evokes the idea that you actually do not give a fuck about feedback or addressing feedback and that the suggestion forum is just an annoying checkmark you'll ignore until Skull inevitably accepts your great idea. And I get where this reply might have come from, Alberyk often replies with "do it urself :v)" on server in OOC or deadchat, but that's in-game, it's because he's trying to play a game and people keep bothering him with suggestions and ideas and reworks. You said it on the suggestion forum! The exact place that SERVES for feedback, none of the coders ever replied with "do it urself" on the suggestion forum because that IS the place to ask for things to be done! I won't give a +1 or a -1 you can gauge my feedback from the above, you're capable sure but as a developer has proven before there can be proper skill but there must also be a proper intent.

Clinging to the ways of old leads to stagnation and stagnation leads to death, the golden path of humanity must arrise from conflict. +1 the text adds nothing besides le xd funny clown mey mey. Praise be to Shai'Hulud may his passing cleanse this world.

Asked around nobody knows much, his last post was on the 23rd of May but nothing to indicate what happened or where he went.

Keep in mind that as a Heads of Staff you will be held at a higher standard and I hope I won't see what happened in that round again from you. Application Accepted

Alright first, sorry for the wait we've had a bit of a giant wave of applications and those we aren't 100% sure on tend to get stuck a bit. Let me begin with this, we have agreed as a group that we cannot give you this application in good faith and allow me to explain why. You have consistently played absolutely nothing else but a Cyborg for the past I want to say year, I have checked your characters and not until recently have you started branching out into other jobs particurarly Forensics Technician and Roboticist if the WI is not lying. This is nowhere near enough to actually judge how you'll play a head and even when we observed you as a cyborg it was not favorable. Every other week you seem to be entangled in one ahelp or another about how you play a synthetic and how you interpret laws, we've received reports and witnessed ourselves that you intrude into the jobs of other people doing the job for them instead of assisting them because "It's faster if I do it". A big part of roleplay is being able to inconvenience yourself for the sake of a story or other characters having a chance, this goes double for heads who are expected to go atleast partially along with the antagonists and not jump on the first chance to destroy them. So the question remains, if you can't really follow rules, try to skirt around your iron-hard lawsets on purpose and solve everything hands-on. How can we trust you with upholding in-game regulations properly? I recommend to you that you try to force yourself to play normal crewmembers more actively instead of falling back into your cyborg comfort zone and when you do fall into that comfort zone you need to start thinking how to follow your laws rather than how to follow your laws enough to not get banned. You are on the correct path as is seen with the positive feedback you have received compared to your old application but you still have a long way to go before we feel comfortable with you enough to give you a head whitelist. Application Denied

Application Denied.

Thank you for explaining the situation.

Now here is the thing. Today I happened to have some time in the noon so I join to cover the bases for a bit and I witness this bizzare thing. It seemed that your character, Assar and another engineer Bonnabelle were engaging in a scuffle, I didn't think much of that. Next thing I know in-between the shakes of the coffee she starts screaming, you whip out a stun baton and bash her a few times, tie her to a chair, she escapes, you tie her. This repeated a few times and I was just awestruck at what was happening as there seemed to be very minimal amount of actual IC converse as she was simply screaming about pains and needing a doctor (Due to the heart damage she had at the time as I checked through VV). All of this was very bizzare behaviour and thus I'd like to inquire what was that even about?

Myself and [mention]Tailson[/mention] will be managing this complaint. The logs aren't perfectly clear, [mention]veradox[/mention] at what point in the round did your character Cadmus turn malf?

Application Accepted.

Application denied.

Application Denied due to lack of feedback.

So far so good! Oh. Okay breaking this part, first laboratories it's your whitelist application and you're trying to make a good first impression, while spelling is not necessary for a good story it gives the application of feeling that you put effort and care into it. Second when you're "Conducting research" it usually means you're actively taking part in it, I guess you meant she was taking research notes? But then she does get involved more because she was talking to the lead scientist which led to her submitting her own theories for future and yada yada Further this kinda boggles my mind, you tell us that you don't want to saymuch about your character but you give me the information that she knows PERSONALLY one of the LEAD SCIENTISTS in THE SKRELL FLEET who develops PROTOTYPE WEAPONS. This is like knowing Albert Einstein during the development of the Nuclear Bomb! This is incredible! And probably one of the biggest influences on her entire life and it ends up as a footnote, this is a lot of wasted potential! And on the subject of weapons. She is working on Theoretical Physics and Bluespace and decides to go design and research weapons? This is very questionable. And here is the biggest crux and what breaks my suspension of disbelief, this character, this girl that personally knows the lead researcher of the Skrell Fleet and is horrified of Synths decides to completely leave behind EVERYTHING and move a few thousand lightyears to work in a human company and a company that is not in the best standing with the Skrell goverment and is FAMOUSLY liberal with its use of synthetics. Did your character just not do any research on her workplace that she was so suprised synths were integrated like this? And if indeed they did do no research, why would they go into human space in the first place? Skrell do their own research and she knows the lead scientists on one of the projects, you would think she would use a recommendation from him to get a good job in the fleet. Then you hit is with the curveball of "After a month in human space", well what did she do for a month? Why did it take so long to start working? Was she getting acclimated? If yes where did she get the money? Do her parents send her money? Wouldn't her parents disagree with working around a bunch of robots? Why didn't she just decide to move back as soon as she discovered synths are so rampant? (Assuming she didn't know there would be this many beforehand). Lastly, NanoTrasen not NanoTresen, don't worry I called it NanoTransen myself for a long time before someone told me it's Trasen. I don't like being the bad guy and I don't know you much in-game so I cannot comment on your in-game ability, but this story was very very weak and I cannot give a nod of approval to a character like this. I don't want you to turn away from this remember that but you need to realize that this is an application that is supposed to show off your knowledge and ability to use lore in the story, you have not done that. Your character is young to juxtapose the older skrell on the station, yes I approve of this it's an interesting storypoint but it also undermines your application in the fact that your character is not actually a Skrell, there is nothing about them that would suggest that. Sure you write they're scared of synths but you never capitalize on it, she completely seems to ignore or overcome her fears in an extremely small amount of time with absolutely no struggle I could EASILY put a human instead of skrell and I have still the same character to the T. Witholding information because you want people to know your character in game is fine, but you have sabotaged yourself with this, by not showing or describing the struggles of your character you have effectively hidden the part that would have made this character a skrell, do mind skrell have SUPRESSED emotions but they still DO have them they DO feel fear they just don't show it as expressively as humans or other species. All in all I must give you a -1 at this time on the lore, I don't know you in-game or your OOC "shwey" so I cannot comment on that and I implore the lore developer to take that into regard when judging this application.

Application accepted.

It's why I gave all the previous suggestions. The closing statement is simply what I think it MIGHT end up as. The main reason why I'm so pessimistic is because that I searched and I believe that the devil gamemode has been disabled on just about every server that has it with only being able to activate via. admin powers. Plus I think we seriously need a biological antag to replace ling instead of a new mystical antag as it's much harder to interact with magic rather than technology or aliens. Also the last part isn't a critique, it's my opinion, take everything before that as critique of the gamemode.

I wrote a long post about why this wouldn't work but let me put it more streamlined so it's easier to process compared to a long rant. CONTRACTS Lust: I like it, the issue is it's extremely limited and I don't think a lot of people are going to risk it, not when it has that, for the lack of a better term "rapey" vibe going on. Maybe use those syndie drugs instead that turn other people traitor? Or perhaps "pheromones" like the vampire has with his suggestion or whatever that ability is. Gluttony: Why would I pick this when I can get food? Turning fat to never eat again sounds like a curse not a blessing. Tell you what, instead make them get an ability that gives them the power to turn nutrients into hyperzine. Greed: Thematic, nice, can't lose much with it, I'd say this would be one of the most picked. Maybe increase the amount just so it DOES seem ridiculous. Sloth: Here is the crux of the issue, the ghost aspect because if that happens I basically bought a dud and even if I DO get a slave how the hell is everyone going to react? This would make the devil and his follower extremely obvious. Would benefit if you could recall your slave like a pokeyman. Maybe "smart" and "Dumb" mode, dumb mode is basically a simple mob but much stronger while smart mode would be a human mob and ghost. Wrath: Seriously nobody is going to use this outside of maybe a few validhunters and they're immediatly going to give out your position as soon as they go rootin' and tootin' and shootin'. Instead it should provide a natural increase in strenght, maybe similar to hulk without actually hulking like putting a forceglove modifier on their hands. Envy: Same as above, a single person finds out and your whole operation is kaput. Pride: Why pick anything else? The devil gets more souls, you get more powers this is a self-feeding system. No idea how to fix this one. POWERS The other problem are powers as I implied previously, they're weak. First you get dark-jump, sure thematic and not too overpowered, except the reason this works so well in the vampire kit is that a vampire can shreak and shutter every light in the vicinity, a devil can't do that. Useful but lacks utility, a normal teleport, blink or vampire jaunt would work. Shapeshifting, thematic again, this one is actually good except you'd probably need to put this one first as the devil would have to blend into the crowd first and foremost since it's pretty clear he'd be found out as soon as someone wishes for a gun because people who wish for guns can't keep it hidden. Yeah just move this one to a single soul. Teleportation, just the whole thing, it takes two minutes to take off cuffs and this takes TWO times that? And FIVES times that when I don't use a proper mark rune? Useless. What he would seriously need is something to escape containment with, like even permanent, maybe make it possible for him to create a "body double" which he can stash away and switch conciousness, maybe make it eat up a soul. Corrupt, seriously? If you haven't told someone to kill the chaplain yet you probably deserve to be blessed otherwise this is the least played role and the devil gamemode isn't going to make it any more played just because it's going to make chaplain the validest of salids. If you want effective corruption make it possible for him to corrupt items or crewmembers to turn them into different things (temporarily) True Form, this honestly looks like a massive excuse to become a "hero" character and I can already see people kicking and screaming over each other for a HONOBRU DUERRR!!!! At this point I think the devil SHOULD be a literal unstoppable force, maybe keep chaplain completely untouchable and instead the devil can use this time to keep summoning his demon armies and eating human souls while crewmembers get to evacuate. CLOSURE This is like the lovechild of peace-antag. It has the contracts of wizard with the binding power of cult but also the magical power of me being able to say "no thanks" and all of the powers are shittier than what the wizard can offer me no matter what I pick. It has the rev ability of literally doing a 360 and moonwalking away, it require the antag to co-operate and act like the nicest guy to the crew since a single insult could mean an entire departments starts to shun you. It has a weird mixture of useless and useful contracts, some of which would reveal you IMMEDIATLY as the game begins. This would just become 2 hours of nothing as like 2-3 people get a gun and then the devil gets arrested or just blunders around maint. I cannot support this, we don't need more "If one person is shit say goodbye to the entire round" gamemode like ninja or wizard, those are WAY more powerful and already suffer from it.

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