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The issue isn't Aurora lore, the issue is the lore of said species you're applying for which you have none of. When you're applying for a species there is one thing lore overseer looks for, your understanding of said species, as it goes Ru'rek could be a human, skrell, unathi or a sentient corgi yet this background would still fit him. And that's wrong, he's a Tajara not a human, his backstory shouldn't be identical with the backstory of Steve Bingus two streets over, it should be a completely different experience. It's the reason off-planet Tajara have not been accepted as a valid whitelist since last year.
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Well you'll find that you most likely won't get accepted unless you change this application. The reason we have a whitelist is for people to read the wiki, understand the lore and try to make a character fit the lore. And if you read the lore you'll discover we're COMPLETELY different from Baystation Tajara lore. From reading your app it's easy to tell that you either didn't read the lore or made a character specifically so you could avoid the lore, both are unacceptable so I recommend you do a complete rework. I understand the nostalgia you can feel towards old characters But As it stands now I cannot support this application.
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I've had a few pleasant interactions with Tedrow and the fact she actually uses her mouth for something else than breathing and eating is a pleasant thing to see. Now for the application part: No seriously this is well done, a young Tajara who's affected by the drums of war through her close friends and family, discovering that other planets and species live much much more educated and rich lives than anything she could find on her own planet. This essentially takes her spirit into wanderlust hoping to find much brighter and better future somewhere that isn't Adhomai. So yes I fully endorce this application, it's apperant you actually read not only the main parts of the wiki but actually the more hidden parts that feature the native flora and fauna along with the religion of Adhomai.
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[Denied]Angery_Cats Tajara submission
Coalf replied to Angery_Cat's topic in Whitelist Applications Archives
Well first off you might want to edit your post there, your [/b]'s seem to have slipped off. Second, while the idea of a cave dwelling Tajara tribe discovering society after living in a cave for countless years sound extremely appealing as a story with an interesting character it's a bad idea for a whitelist. Whitelist are here to show lore overseers that you understand the species and their culture, by creating a tribe of cave dwelling primitive Tajara you've essentially completely isolated them from the exact culture Mofo and others before him were trying to enforce with there being a single mention of an actual political party and the mention being completely out of context? It kinda looks like you put The People's Republic of Adhomai there just because it was a requirement. Plus you have so many questions that there are simply no answers to besides "Just because it happened that way" like What were these other tribes? Tajara are technologically advanced, they live in villages like normal people. Did nobody experience something as a culture or technological shock? These are what I assume cave dwelling primitives and they somehow had no issue adapting to the technological level? Where did they get houses? Why was he accepted into school. Why would NanoTrasen hire him instead of actually technologically skilled Tajara? To add insult to injury your application is very poorly worded to the point where I actually cannot read certain parts of it. Seriously, sit down, read the wiki, read the other accepted Tajara applications, get inspired and write, it might take more than a month but quality > quantity. So far -1 -
I, Patrick Huey, Head of Personell, would be interested in attending this meeting.
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I agree with what OP says. Antagonists are here to do exactly that, antagonize. An antagonist doesn't have to shoot fireballs around and fight the crew, there are many ways to be an antagonist and plenty of those are peaceful antags. But antags who intentionally turn themselves in essentially neglect their role, it's akin to picking your job to be a Janitor and simply refusing the clean the floors with which we take actual issue, ICly. We can't do the same thing for antags since they're a non-canon thing, thus it requires us to step in and set things right. So yes, I support this policy, although it should be worded better and "For no reason" replaced with more specific description.
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Yes I read that later I should have edited it but I forgot to do that. Anyways And yes I agree that the addition of Phoron fuel cells (or something i dunno) into Mechs would be one of the good ways to start off a "Phoron update" to include more mechanical changes within the game itself. It has the added bonus of forcing out more interaction. Since phoron includes bluespace generations it also wouldn't be far fetched to use phoron as a fuel for Teleporter and Hand teleporter or even dare I say, fuel for gateway, although that's most likely out of the question as it's an arrivals tool and not actually something used in-game in any other way.
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Fuck you Fuck the playerbase, you don't deserve us or the server. You think cunty faces.
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"Also apperantly Elyria has phoron which means NT isn't a monopoly, they have a contender making point 2 valid." " Point 2) Can we make NT have a monopoly of Phoron, making it a driving force behind the lore and our setting." Nobody said that. Pictured: Not worth the hassle of blockading an entire system full of the only proper fuel resource that allows you to travel between planets and actually maintain your extremely giant empire that's already a bureaucratic hell barely holding together. (Both pictures spoilered for posterity sake) To be fair I should have included "While blockading Biesel" because as far as we know the fuel prices skyrocketed to the point of crippling the Sol economy. Oh wait we don't know because nothing like that happened because we forgot about the major import, the NanoTrasen. Or maybe we didn't forget and Elyria simply provided the fuel, making phoron not as a critical resource, making NanoTrasen not a monopoly and supporting exactly the things Zundy requested, NT having the monopoly making Phoron more of a critical resource rather than less than common engine juice. Yes, let's remove someone abusing the issue instead of the issue itself. Maybe if Phoron was actually marketed as something expensive, was expensive and was actually rare people wouldn't think of it as a spicy vape flavor. I think everyone can agree on it being underused mechanically, yes, I wouldn't mind mech refueling stations using phoron instead of being hooked up to general power, of course it would most likely just lead to mechs being used even less than phoron being used more. But only time could tell.
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Point 1: "But it's already expensive!" Phoron is expensive when we're not using it. Have you seen how people behave to phoron? And not even normal players, HEADS, the people we pick out as "above-average" don't give a flying bacon stuffed pizza roll about phoron. Why would Sol blockade their only source of super fuel, a few combat synths? Really? How would a species of man-ants LITERALLY EAT the most valuable resource in universe and somehow exist no problemo in gorillion-head hives? How do pirates exists? Shouldn't there be barely any pirates? Where do they get phoron? How can Sol keep such a giant fleet? And if you use the ((((reserves))) argument, do realise that reserves are just that, reserves, they're used as the last option, if you're running on reserves you're running on burrowed time, Sol wouldn't dare speak publicly against NanoTrasen out of fear they'd get cut-off from their engine juice. Skrell are excluded because they apperantly have their own phoron source, which brings me to Point 2 : "They are already have a monopoly!" If they do how come everyone else acts to NT like they're the fucking Coca Cola company. They provide probably the most valuable resource in-universe yet we act to them like they're EA. We should behave like they're Big Pharma, we should behave to them like they're De Beers. No country or company speaks against these corporations officialy, the only comments on them you'll hear are from reporters and individuals OR from time to time a nation will decide to have a legal proceeding which will most likely be rendered moot due to the sheer amount of lawyers. Yet NanoTrasen has for long been a fucking laughingstock of the lore, every joke carried out on its name essentially nobody giving a big ravioli shit about what big NT might do if they act against it. Also apperantly Elyria has phoron which means NT isn't a monopoly, they have a contender making point 2 valid. Point 3: THISSSSS Phoron is supposed to be this alpha and omega of fuels, the most efficent fuel resource. Yeah what do we get out of it? Three guns and an engine for the gygax? Science is already a barebones department with people being to hammer down R&D in 15 minutes without metagaming but just by shoving random things into the analyzer and banging their dicks against the screen. Outside of research? Yeah sure medical needs it for like five medicines that aren't even important to survival of the crew (anti-toxin). Engine? Please, you can run an engine with N2 and CO2 easily, sure it was required when we had singularity but now? Yeah sure you can use it but you don't really have to, just tweak the engine a bit. Simple thing is, phoron isn't needed mechanically, it's there but nobody needs it, not having phoron isn't a big hurdle the crew has to overcome, it's a speedbump. Seriously phoron desperately needs some more love put into it, it is the REASON we're on the station and yet it's the least popular branch of science with it only being used for buffet snacks. tl;dr Phoron, the reason and main resource in the entire universe is underused and undervalued constantly.
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[Resolved] Staff Complaint-TrickingTrapster
Coalf replied to Bygonehero's topic in Staff Complaints Archive
On one hand you should have specified WHY the Tcomms were disabled. On the other hand TT should have investigated further. On the legs, you both argued schematics for 20 minutes instead of doing either of those previous things. -
[Accepted] Coalf's Heads of Staff, HoP, application.
Coalf replied to Coalf's topic in Whitelist Applications Archives
Thanks for the support so far everyone. Patrick is going to work a lot with people, he is after all a Head of Personell and even other departments have personell, thus I think Patrick is going to spend plenty of time going from department to department managing personell without getting in the way of other heads. Of course only on Code Green as during code Blue and Red there are other priorities. -
Feedback: Khaled Al-Bastaki (RIP Raymond Hawkins)
Coalf replied to Faris's topic in Character and Concept Feedback
Again most likely not your fault, but people in the presence of Hawking and cultists seem more whipped into actual confrontational engagement, but causation =/= corolation and thus it could have simply been a few unfortunate rounds with unfortunate officers that i've witnessed and been told stories about as people like to exagarate their personal stories to attain more pity points. Similar to the previous vampire issue, it seems that, sadly, people have gotten too inspired in their "Burn the witch" mindset and sometimes when performing such actions I've seen "Heh just like with Hawkings XD" in LOOC or Dsay, of course these were one-off mentions and mind not be related at all. Now that I think about it most my issues with your character are the people around the character making it into a meme and assuming things instead of doing their research. -
[Accepted] Head of Staff whitelist: Pacmandevil
Coalf replied to Pacmandevil's topic in Whitelist Applications Archives
Yes but you see, you should have already been on a good level of interaction beforehand before forcing yourself into situations you might not be able to process or handle, I know from experience it's really easy to fall back into reflex and just powergame your way out of an issue. I solved this by becoming severly unrobust. While I admit I exagarated in the "severe lack" your RP is still not up to something I'd consider above-average, but that could be simply from the fact I have BARELY seen any other character than Fernando and he himself is barely on station as a miner. You see why I'm concerned about this? You actually aren't on station to talk to people that much and while you talk to miners a plenty as I've seen it, miners tend to be simple people with simple dialogue and simple minds. (Characters not players) I like this part, you admit it will be a difficult job and I myself admit I am not opossed to you getting the whitelist, I am opossed to you getting the whitelist and getting burned out in two days at which point you jump back to Fernando and never play CMO again, which I have seen happen PLENTY of times with peopel who've gotten a heads of staff. These questions were also intended for the general public to view your opinion, I'm not against giving you this whitelist but remember, if you decide to just quit after a week or two I'll haunt you forever. +1 -
Feedback: Khaled Al-Bastaki (RIP Raymond Hawkins)
Coalf replied to Faris's topic in Character and Concept Feedback
Well well well, if it isn't a bunch of scared memes not posting an actual opinion. Well I have no fear so I'll dump some truth on your ass. First off Abosh you at first have seemed to fall into the pitfall of "Throw shit at the wall and see what sticks" with your characters but coincidentally this one seems to have stuck with the people, that's why I'm going to SLANDER IT. Raymond Hawkins What a swell guy huh? I think you've done well capturing the "Strict but just" package to the point where people with daddy issues take him as a father figure, he has a real sense of real to him, while dramatic and serious he can also be seen enjoying the finer things in life, drink, bikes, weapons and other such stuff in a BELIEVABLE manner. So far Hawkins feels real and like an actual person aboard the NSS Aurora (Or whatever the name is now) But alas, to every face there is an ass. The memes Achtung the memes, as we know every popular character gathers a crowd around them that wants to interact and eventually through repeated actions they also gain memetic anomality, of course you yourself can't control and are not responsible for what other people do but it really does detract from who Raymond really is, while making a joke here and there is acceptible plenty of people take it too far, but again this isn't your fault just the fault of whoever else is reading thing, yes, even you Stefan. The validhunting. That's an exagaration, but honestly? Playing Cult or Vampire with Raymond in round is borderline annoying and impossible, god forbid you have a Unathi with you, then it's just straight to cryo. While I understand it's really fun to burn heretics and act zelaous it can get easily out of hand and people tend to form a lynch mob and while it really is fun even as the antag the first time, it really is not pleasant the 5th time around when you're getting point blank leathaled by a security officer whipped into a frenzy by his commander shouting "KILL THE HERETICS".dramatic reconstruction Really and that's about it! Raymond is a well balanced, grounded character with his own personallity, likes, dislikes and hobbies! If anything he's a prime example of a good character walking around Aurora and a proof that we can still be HRP instead of HRP if we really try our best. -
[Accepted] Head of Staff whitelist: Pacmandevil
Coalf replied to Pacmandevil's topic in Whitelist Applications Archives
Got a mistake there friend. Backstory is run of the mill stuff no complaints no compliments, everyone pretty much makes white bread when applying for heads, even me. But there is an issue I want to address. Are you going to improve your style and demeanor on RP? Both OOC and IC you've shown severe lack in Roleplay and as I remember it one of your continuous major issues seems to be interaction with people itself. And you have to admit, this is a MASSIVE issue. If you're applying for a role that does nothing besides interact and talk to people in their department as you yourself said, which means interaction, lots and lots of interactions along with solving command issues, security breaking into medical and much much more bullshit. Otherwise you're very mechanically and robustically gifted and I admit I'd like to see someone capable in medbay besides the usuals that appear once the moon is full and the stars shine over R'lyeth as Cthulhu awakens from his grave. But until you address the issues above I'll be withdrawing my judgement. -
BYOND key:Coalf Character names:Patrick Huey, Dane Huey, Elwood Hoover, Scoop (More previously but they were PURGED) How long have you been playing on Aurora?:2 years give or take Why do you wish to be on the whitelist?:I've played pretty much every job, I want to give heads a try. Why did you come to Aurora?:To roleplaying in SS13 Have you read the Aurora wiki on the head roles and qualifications you plan on playing?:Yes Please provide well articulated answers to the following questions in a paragraph each. Give a definition of what you think roleplay is, and should be about: Roleplay is about interaction first and foremost. While many of us love developing backstories and flavor to our characters in the end it all boils down to interaction, the best comparison I've seen is that Aurora is a high-school drama class play, while the characters often have exagarated reactions and cheesy backstories you still stay to see how exactly these characters interact and spark against each other. I'm not dissing the creation of backstories but what you truly need for a good character is their behaviour, mindset and motivation a character without either of those three is incomplete. What do you think the OOC purpose of a Head of Staff is, ingame?: To have fun and provide fun. Why yes inheritly with being head comes responsibility not only over your department but over the entire round as a single head decision can make or break a round but in the end they are still players playing a game of SS13 and if their purpose is something else than just having fun, well it's to me misguided, why would you play a game if not to have fun? What do you think the OOC responsibilities of Whitelisted players are to other players, and how would you strive to uphold them?: Whitelisted players hold one of the biggest responsibilities and that is the responsibility over the entire round. It could be said that a Head is as important and as round-changing as an antagonist, they hold command over not only their department but technically also over entire security as what a head says tends to be the de facto law to our lovely security players and thus a misinfromed head can easily destroy an entire round. On the other hand a capable head can enhance the round of both the antagonist and station crew tenfold with proper managment and leeway towards certain actions. Akin to Server Staff, heads inherit responsibility and enjoyment of the game and that is not the only similarity, thus I'd uphold as I have upheld them to date as a moderator. Please pick one of your characters for this section, and provide well articulated responses to the following questions. Character name:Patrick Huey Character age:42 Please provide a short biography of this character (approx 2 paragraphs): Patrick lived a quite dull and uneventful life, such life has often been disturbed by the behaviour of Patricks father, Dane Huey, who's eccentric behaviour and obvious drinking problem caused a divorce at the time of this divorce Patrick was nine years old and it developed quite the lasting impact on his life, mainly since this was the first time Patrick was involved with law and it's inner workings. Since that day Patrick took a liking to lawyers, judges, federal executives and many such roles and thus this early in life he decided what exactly he wanted to do. Both his parents were very supportive of this decision and although his mother provided most of the financial backing his father didn't stay behind and every possible penny scrounged up was given to his account, which often got a laugh out of Patrick. Patrick thus spent his early years acquiring a degree in law, those years to Patrick seemed to pass in the blink of an eye and soon it was time for him to choose a job. It was during this time Patrick became quite interested in the political activities of the ATLAS group, he understood their fear of rampant AI's, love for biological and mechanical augmentations and their support and respect of hard working blue collars. With his new interest in mind he chose to defend and represent the group on many ocassions but none of them were as important as Pat wanted. Eventually Patrick returned to college and obtained a Bachelor's degree in Managment attempting to start a firm to fully support his political career but after a few years he discovered that starting a company in an already company heavy enviroment is borderline impossible and had to file for bankruptcy shortly after. And when you can't beat them, join them. After the Sol incursion of the Tau Ceti system and the harsh actions of now condemned admiral Frost, Patrick found himself on Biesel working to join a new job position, not only did the synthetic crash free up plethera of work but the economical hit left the market crying for people who knew how to manage people and manage money and Pat was both of those things. Now after multiple tests, prods and interview Patrick Huey finds himself working as a Head of Personell aboard the brand new Aurora station, hoping to climb the corporate ladder and get everything he deserves. What do you like about this character?: He's a very grounded and basic character, nothing too special and I wouldn't even call him much of a protagonist or antagonist of anyones story, more of an extra in the back. I like his motivation and drive to pick himself up and try new things, even after all this time his own goals and motivations is what keeps him going, I also like the general sinister feel of him that you feel around people in his position and of his mindset, this feeling that they're never completely honest with you. What do you dislike about this character?: Ironically what I like is also what I dislike, he seems boring and I hope I can potray someone like him accurately without any "Memetic" and "out of character" behaviour. What do you think makes this character fit to be a head of staff?: He's logical, he has experience, he has education and most importantly he has a motive something he thinks plenty of people lack as they simply go day-to-day without any higher goal. And as stated he has worked with people, be it law, managment or politics he is involved with people if he likes it or not. Please provide well articulated answers to the following questions. How would you rate your own roleplaying?: On a scale of 1 to 10. Yes Extra notes:
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You posted in the wrong neighbourhood. Moving topic to appropriate place .
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[Resolved] Unban Request for Eastwardrope
Coalf replied to Eastwardrope's topic in Unban Requests Archive
You have a giant list of negative admin feedback, you have broken plenty of rules in the book. BUT for those you were already punished and I recognize that dropping your connection isn't an actual valid reason. But remember, you're on thin crust and if you seriously don't change your behaviour and read the rules you'll be swimming in a sauce of trouble. Unban will take immediate effect after this post. -
[Resolved] Unban Request for Eastwardrope
Coalf replied to Eastwardrope's topic in Unban Requests Archive
Alright let me explain my reasoning. As a chef with the skillset of a god I.E you had all your skills put up to proffesional the exceptions being the "useless" skills which were put to Amateur, like cooking, as a chef. Hacking doors is something mostly greytiders do and after later investigation I discovered you really were hacking doors just to fix them after an assistant that is still something you shouldn't do as a chef. Plus I gave you good five to ten minutes to reconnect, I asked other staff currently on the server if it's okay to apply said ban at this lenght of being disconnected to which they agreed. Now this alone isn't really a reason for the 4 day ban. The reason for that ban is that you have, over the course of only this month, accumulated so much negative staff feedback regarding pure greytiding and un-awarness of the rules that I simply decided to give you a time to read the rules and wonder if this server style of play is indeed the correct one for you. I'd say you're on thin crust but we're past that point. So no, I'm not considering to lift this ban. -
The staff wasn't an admin but a mod, [mention]Muncorn[/mention] . The rule in question is as follows, "Characters must be named following a Firstname Lastname model (e.g. "John Smith"). No honorifics, nicknames or middle names (with exceptions for compound names such as Van/Von/Bin X). Think of your in-game name as the name printed on your work ID. Exceptions are made to alien races with alternate naming mechanics, such as the Diona or IPCs, please consult their specific wiki pages for exact details. In general, avoid reference/famous/joke names, please." Specifically rule 2 from "Creating Characters" The name "Ned Ed" is silly simple as that, it migh be present in real life yet there are also 5 people named Zzyzx, 2 named Optimus Prime and atleast 3 Dragonborn's yet we still wouldn't allow those. The fact is Ned and Ed are bot short for Edward making the character Edward Edward. You have a plethera of names you can use, plus the added abillity to make new names completely up such as, Nedison, which isn't an actual name.
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Well it makes sense something like this would exist and the reason nobody applied for it before? Just the meme, that's it, it was a massive meme. Give it 3 months and someone will apply for a fidget spinner
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I was honestly skeptical but, good job. Also glad you didn't get heatstroke in that thing like holy damn.