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Well I think enough time has passed for Biolock to respond and because I've come to a decision myself after re-reading this I'll post it now. It's clear that mistakes were made, on both sides. Ajstorey has been told that just because he's a synthetic he shouldn't skimp out on roleplay and baton people in the middle of conversations, which is included in the gank rule, the only rule he broke willingly all other events and happenings were accidents the people talking to him in LOOC didn't help either. At the time I only talked to one person about his LOOC harassment because I didn't realize it was the work of multiple individual. So I urge you, DO NOT harass, metainform or otherwise yell at people in LOOC or OOC, we're all here to have a good time and dying because someone made a mistake is part of the course, we live and we learn. Man up and deal with it. None of this was done out of malice or spite but only due to accidental behaviour and I admit that I overshot the punishment. Thus I'll be lowering the standing jobban to three days, starting from the date this post has been made. Thread will be locked and archived after 24 hours.
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Locking and archiving.
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https://forums.aurorastation.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=9295&p=86026#p86026 Posting this in thread since it's relevant to [mention]Biolock[/mention] 's complaint.
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As Sytic said punishment has been carried out against the player in the form of a jobban. Will be locked and archived after 24 hours.
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An alright character, suffers from the usual science NEET making them kinda hard to meet outside of being a robot. But the few times I met or saw them they were alright, for a massive snowflake. And to counter-pose Hive's post I think it makes sense for such a character to be overly friendly. They have left their extremely hostile, agressive and sand-filled (gets everywhere) homeworld for the sleek, professional and capitalism filled station. Someone who was alone and ostracized their whole life from pretty much chilhood by their people would be expected to seek recognition from other kinds of people in this case other species.
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Correct. Ten points for Griffindor
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The forum was intended as a speculatory forum. I've noticed people on discord often talk of speculation how things could have happened, what character would be cool and how they imagine a person in history would act. But on discord you can't really expand on it, thus the forum, stories that are posted there as previously said won't be taken as de facto canon but for example Cake, could look there, see a nice Synthetic speculation fanfic and go "Yes, this is an interesting idea I like it," and put it in the game if he feels like it. It's a way to go "I have this fun story in mind and I want to put it down somewhere," without having to put it on some kind of special fanfiction website where NORMIES might see it or perhaps a story about someone who isn't your character, speculations about past events or fantasy stuff that has nothing to do with SS13 in itself but you just want to show off your writing abilities.
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First off you've been here barely a week and you're making an application, well you've been here before but you did say you only recently emigrated from Bay due to some personal things but still, this way you won't get any actual feedback! Players don't know you or your characters yet! Second This whole thing I spoilered for posterity While I understand quite a lot of information about the whitelist isn't actually posted anywhere, maybe you should have player longer to avoid these mistakes. 1: Tajara characters are REQUIRED to be involved in the political scene of Adhomai, this is mostly here to ensure that Tajara don't act like furry humans but actual Tajara, something we aim to prevent. 2: How did she fall in love with a human? While I do admit it's a daring step to take it's absolutely something a normal Tajara in their right mind wouldn't do, first off how would she even meet the damn human outside of the few Embassies and even then she'd be basically beaten to death for trying to love a dang human! They're quite strict about their relationship as even homosexuality is considered a "deviancy" and such Tajara are shipped off to labor camps. 3: NanoTrasen is a company, a very low-effort company but still a company. They would not accept a Tajara who's experience can be summed up in "I saw my mother work on stuff", what's her education? Where did she get the education? she likes watching people and learning well who doesn't? Even if you CAN do surgery doesn't mean they'll let you into a hospital, you need qualifications. 4: The backstory tells us nothing, while yes we get how she got OUT of Adhomai we know absolutely nothing about the character besides the facts she knows about as much as Jon Snow and the fact she learns by watching which is one of the basic human skills. 5: A bartender isn't a desk-job, you also need qualification for being a bartender, maybe a waitress but not a bartender that's for sure. To sum up. A: Read the wiki, Read previous accepted Tajara apps and read the articles featured here https://forums.aurorastation.org/viewforum.php?f=95, they'll give you the extra edge in the lore B: Read the "Station Jobs" part of the wiki, you'll see "Requirements" next to the pictures of the characters, that should give you a hint on what exactly you're tailoring your backstory towards. C: Ask, don't be afraid to ask, I'm sure Mofo doesn't mind answering questions and other Tajara whitelistees don't mind either, I don't for example, feel free to contact me. D: Play the game, people need to know you before they say "Yes this person is good," so far we know diddly squat about your, your characters or how you play. You're very enthusiastic, so keep working, working and working! You'll get there eventually, but until then. -1
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Complaint resolved, locking and archiving.
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These people exist, it happens and it is easily in the realm of possibility for such character to exist among crewmembers who are part of what are considered terrorist groups, a species who bullies its own members because of birth, space racists and fungus which sucks your blood when too small. YET and a big yet. This server is PG13 and creating your character on the basis of being a sexual predator is very innapropriate for the kind of play we want to create here, while yes plenty of engineering staff seem to have seen the other, better, side of the coin most people see only one and that is the uncomfortable/sexual side. The player in question has been spoken to about his innapropriate behaviour and warned to tone down it down and be more tasteful rather than acting like Chad Thundercock. Complaint will be closed after 24 hours, until then it's open to additional comments.
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That was never in question, but as you said this complaint about Yahir Jones and the player Kyres1 who'd I'd like to respond first and explain everything before judging. And regarding the canonity thing, I'll be frank I'm not sure myself and while I phrased it as a fact it was completely my own personal opinion on how it should work. But I assume you should be the only factual editor of your own character and his interaction, otherwise we get people who'll claim your own character is dead because they killed him on extended once.
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I'm sure it's purely up to the person to declare something regarding his own character non-canon.
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I'll be taking over this complaint and judging it's validity from now on. First off yes, Yahir as a character has been quite the blister on the crew manifest and while I hold no personal grudge against them as I've had barebones interactions, all those barebones interactions were either negative or creepy. (Personal experience) BUT When I interacted with the player in question outside of Yahir, either in deadchat, being a merc or playing a wizard he's actually been an acceptible individual and his RP and overall playstyle seems to spike in quality. (Again all of this is personal experience.) While I think this whole thing could have just been an IR because all IR's are uncomfortable I still see why this could be a legit problem for someone. Aurora is a SFW server and while an innuendo here or there is funny and we've had quite a few "trap" character they've all had enough restraint in them to make one or two jokes per month. On the other hand playing a walking innuendo is on the brink of acceptible, I'll withold my judgement until [mention]kyres1[/mention] responds. And *spoilered for posterity This has nothing to do with the complaint and I'd ask people to avoid attempting character assasination and instead focus on the players in-game behaviour. And if I remember it correctly hive you used a sprite of a naked baby in a diaper as your profile picture for a good few weeks and now switched to a caricature of a drug dealer. I know friends are involved but if you have nothing to add, don't. No, that's the Aurora shipping manifest made by a certain player to keep an easier track of all relationships characters have with each other, anyone can add their own character to it if they wish so it's completely voluntery.
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You should prepare for quite a shift, Magic and General throw a giant curveball into the strategy of the game as Hammer&Anvil don't really work when a single well aimed spell can simply stop your cavalry or decimate your whole line. But sniping generals is much harder since a single general can take on a whole unit easily and it actually forces you to be a bit more imaginative and pay a lot more attention to macro since even units in safe distance can be suddenly targeted. Monstrous units are strong but their size makes them susceptible to ranged, some factions don't even HAVE cavalry, some don't have artillery, some have extremely weak and useless range and so on and so forth. It certainly feels less like a single faction with different skins and actually like multiple very different factions with different types of gampeplay. I like it but it's a big turn from the usual Total War titles and a lot of people don't like it. But the memes are great.
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I'm afraid I'll be taking those Elector Counts Tylaaaar But for real yes, Shogun 2 appears to be the fan favorite and I have to say while I love Warhammer Fantasy, Shogun 2 holds a special place in my heart, the aesthetics and general feel of the game are amazing and as TW titles go it was damn near perfect.
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[Accepted] Zundy - Human Lore Dev App
Coalf replied to Zundy's topic in Developer Applications Archives
Hey Zundy my man, making an app? Great! Because I seriously support you dude! Allowing Zundy to be a human loredev would seriously be a good idea as I've already had chance to interact with him. I'd say he's instant to recognize and utilize great ideas and is a great listener no matter who they are or what they're talking about. Like I said once before human lore is behind both on the wiki and current affairs, nothing really explores the different colonies. During the events humans were used sure, but not really as their own species but mostly as some kind of a background setting. On the other hand they got a lot of negative light thanks to this as they were used as the "bad guys" while IPCs were the good guys. My opinion is that humans particularly Solians are used way too much as antagonists of space. I'd like to see them in different ways, not only good of course I'm no hail humanity guy but new and refreshing takes on humanity. Now my main concern is the shifting focus on Vaurca and hopes that this wouldn't become Starship Troopers. In short, I seriously recommend Zundy as a human loredev due to his ideas, creativity and abillity to take a project and finish it. Also I'd recommend reading the first letter of every sentence. ;^) +1 -
So far eggcellent in my opinion, I liked the inclusion of secret messages in ALA articles and cracking the code of them (Two weeks late but whatever), the reinforcement of Tajara as their own species instead of 1920's Russia in space with the addition of Fauna/Sidestories/Family relations/Culture/Religion of their own. But not everything is peachy, NKA felt like the favorite child of a parent that says he doesn't have favorite children. I understand you're attempting to tell a story and essentially you need to "Prepare the ground before landing" sorta thing but honestly the other few factions felt a bit neglected with nothing really sight-catching happening to them unlike NKA who got the largest coverage of new articles, events and actions. Recently your sight seems to have shifted to ALA a bit more which is good because they seemed less like a faction and more like a plotpoint. More like a slap on the lore-horses ass to get him going than anything else. PRA was frankly boring, nothing refreshing happened to that faction besides playing tug-o-war about territory most Tajara players on station don't seem to care about since they don't live there, atleast it seemed so from my perspective I might be completely wrong. But there is clear cut improvement actually attempting to make something else out of these factions than a bunch of stereotypes just laid down on each other in hopes nobody notices and that there is actual effort to progress and shape the lore in a very flexible and acceptible way without intruding too much into the lore itself, slowly sliding ideas and changes into the lore instead of just slapping your lore writer cock on the wiki and going GUYIZ X WORKS LIKE Y NOW DON'T ASK WHY IT JUST DOES no there is actual subtle effort in there and I'm glad for it since I got into playing Tajara for the lore and I'm only glad it's actually moving somewhere instead of keeping up a status quo. You accept whitelist within reasonable time, give a heads up before a review and you apologize when an app is left laying around for a bit too long, SOMETHING OTHERS COULD TAKE NOTE OF But there is one thing I wanted to address, backstory quality. There were and probably always will be issues with people trying to make Tajara off-station, but recently i've noticed a (short) spike of very simple dumb Zhan who are from some backwater town and get to space. While I'm not against "Dumb cheap workers" since this is what NT is about I feel like these are being used in the same vain as the off-station Tajara, to avoid lore and get a through with a very simple and bland whitelist, again my own personal thing.
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I'd advise to fix your formatting first, simply move all the text outside the [/b]'s so it's easier to read
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Now hold on I know a lot of you stopped reading at the word fanfiction but hear me out first. The thing is as far as we're concerned we only have three subforums regarding writing Character Stories - Intended for character stories NanoTrasen Public Network - An IC internet sort of thing Personal Query Terminal - An IC tumblr sorta "Ask this character" deal This doesn't offer a lot of options does it? What if I want to write a story about a character I never actually played? What if I wanted to tell a story about a certain place at a certain time where my character couldn't possibly be? What if I want to write about two lovers that were denied fate by a stray bombing run? What if I wanted to write about a detective who saved the world from a cult but died in the process? What if I want to write a short fantasy flick about Dragons and Magic and flying goblins with daggers for nipples? I bet plenty of people have a story they want to tell and share with us, all of us but there are so many things that stop them. "It's unrelated nobody will care." "I don't want to spam discord and even if I did not that many people would read it." "I don't want to send it to individuals, it feels to personal and I don't have any real friends/buddies/buckos/pals." Plus I think even our lorewriters have stories they'd like to write that just aren't specificaly canon or perhaps aren't really supposed to influence the lore just give a more realistic feeling or give a story about something that they can never replicate on-station. Also props to Zundy for telling me to make a suggestion.
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[Accepted] Worthy's Head of Staff Application.
Coalf replied to Worthy's topic in Whitelist Applications Archives
I've had plenty of interactions with Lily Hawkins and observed a few other of their characters while ghosting, thus I'm not concerned about your roleplaying capabillity. As always my biggest concerns regarding Head players stems from an out-of-game problem, salt. And I can say that in your case I'm not afraid, all the interaction I saw with you in OOC was either completely calm or none and for someone who's played for quite a while this is pleasing to see. The story is meh, mild nothing too spicy but that is expected from whitelist applications since people don't want to take unnecessary risks. So reagarding your head application, I'd say you're, worthy. -
I never did so I can't post any feedback my dude. But Shalashaska "Revolver" Sakaei is a prude as any unathi with a clan name is but sometimes I notice you take it a bit too far, and while I do appreciate and like an actually confronting force in my roleplay to stirr other people into action and keep them on their toes instead of constant glomp/hugging, you just take it too damn far. Not always mind you, but it's still there, often I can see you getting physical with people and humans to the point where it goes past harassment and enters assault territory. It's acceptable from someone who's been on the station for a few weeks but your lizard has been quite active and for quite a time to the point where this kind of behaviour should have been whipped out of him at this point. The one incident that comes into mind was basically smacking an officer on the table, cuffing them and taunting them over and over after they gave you a half-witty insult. (This was a few weeks back) Otherwise there is the ever so rare "memeoff" with other characters which I'm not a fan of where you basically flash jokes and one-up each other until one of you gives up and while I'm no prude memeing in that volume stops being fun and starts being annoying. Otherwise I have no other issue with the character. The player is another story.
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Yeah sure might help a bit, people are still going to be upset over not getting the gamemode they wanted but that can't be solved really. Or maybe people could vote the fucking round they want instead of picking secret like the centrists fucks they are.
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Teleports behind u nothing head of personell, kid...... unsheats katana and exectues amaterasu pssh pathetic.....