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The blood was red. Bc yahir bled on it first i remember thinking this was rediculous mid round @Scheveningan
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Second post to follow up with the edit of added info. Sure if carp and bones are defacto lore, then why is the gravity well that somehow spits someone out on random zlevels instead of them falling into space forever bc mechanics also not defacto lore? I still point out the plausibility of a body being manhunted for and found when a plausible cause of death via witnessed suicide jump was already accepted. And okay fair point on no evidence/body not preventing them from holding Yahir for a while. I still say its bullshit he's automatically convicted. Which is what i was told in DM's.
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But security, did not. And the one person who discovered it did not act on it. How often are there blood and oil trails? Now try and link this to the other cleanup crew guy who uses the recycle function on just another void suit with blood on it like everyshift. (Which btw the voidsuit was not covered in vaurca blood mechanically because it was already covered in Yahir's blood from out on the rock earlier that shift. I didnt include that bc its again a mechanical thing not an rp thing, which is the same reason saying yahir was covered in vaurca blood somehow through an eva suit is silly. So we either say Yahir was covered in bug blood which no named witness saw but none was on his voidsuit or there was blood on the suit which would be recycled as it always is) During this time. No one was reported murdered. Cleanup crew is not a super sterile forensics super team. They just clean. How much thought would they really put into this? But okay, let's they had their wheaties and know this blood surely must be different than all the other bleed outs in maint and report it? Yahir was in EVA gear so he would have left no identifiable forensic trails besides a mining suit fiber in an area miners can already traverse. Do they really conduct in depth investigations of the maintenance tunnels before recycling and replacing standard shift gear and have time to document, analyze, and run fibers before sanitizing standard voidsuits? This is implausible. This is relying on meta knowledge that there was a murder. And even if they have this meta, it is still circumstantial. Yahir shot wxkri point blank in front of two people? Who is to say he was not still bleeding from that? Who is to say the blood on the suit wasnt from the shot? Reasonable. Doubt.
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I think my points have been made so unless there was a log from hivenet i was unaware of ill stick to my 2 original guns: Reasonable doubt. There is just too many holes. No body. No concrete evidence besides blood in a tunnel and on a voidsuit after Yahir already shooting Wxkri once point blank,) and a vague text message about squashing a bug. Is this really enough to convince a jury of 12 peers? (Assuming TC judicial is like modern day judicial systems) No reported murder: So Wxkri was seen jumping into space. No body recovered. There would be at least a day before people realized he was missing. Longer for his last location to be determined. And longer yet for a manhunt after a fall into space (assuming now that a manhunt for a vaurca would be done when they do not even do this for humans) to be organized to find a body in a mine cave that somehow survived the herd of carp clinging to the station. So the odds of determining Wxkri's cause of death is slim to none at best. I'd fully support an actual IC investigation and accept a temporary arrest here. But just flat predetermined guilt with 0 interviews on very circumstantial evidence when no murder was ever even reported? That seems entirely unfair to fuck someone's character over.
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The asteroid is covered in bones. This is what's represented by game mechanics, Carp actively feast on the dead. Assuming one body in a sea would be found that quickly (which it was not) is ridiculous. The weapon used in the murder was on Yahir's person, and cleaned in the shower and left the station on Yahir's person which was later discarded The voidsuit is a good point. However. Mind you. Yahir shot wxkri when he moved to throw the body. Who's to say he wasn't covered in it from that? When he came inside the voidsuit was already off. For some reason. The blood soaks through an eva proof voidsuit. I cant control that lrp mechanic and maybe one person saw Yahir other than Ana and didnt stop to question that. Who is your witness here? Secondly the voidsuits are recycled and sanitized evert shift by cleanup crew. They are covered in blood all the time from shit that happens on the asteroid. Did wxkri speak about being murdered by Yahir over hivenet? Who heard it? Does Tau Ceti allow a hivenet communication in court of law? Otherwise. Who is to say his falling into space and subsequently smearing against the asteroid is why he did not go silent? As for being EVA proof. Yes. Being fall, shark, and smashing against the ground proof? No. Blood in the maints. This is... silly. Does NT investigate every pile of blood in the maintenance? Is the cleanup crew not mindless robots who "clean" station after shift? My point here is you are moving off very circumstantial evidence when Wxkri was presumed dead for falling into space. How long does it take for a missing person's investigation to truly begin time of retrieval, and feasibility of them finding a single body in a VERY large area riddled with fauna that actively consume them? Replace wxkri with a miner that had fallen. Again. Loss of life from falling on the Asteroid is a common occurence and wxkri literally jumped into space and fell. ------- In short. Unless there was a clear signal here that Wxkri got off saying "Yahir" or "Someone is murdering me in maint". This is what we call: Meta. A faux investigation that never happened is being allowed here on evidence that would not have been realistically found. Wxkri, by all accounts was last seen jumping into space his sensors were off. He was not seen again by anyone *but* Yahir. No one was alerted to a murder so no one would be looking for a murder when you have a plausible cause of death, already. This is meta. If you are confident in this investigation that would have found Yahir guilty enough to be trialed, allow an actual IC one based on the evidence you have go through. We have an actual staff team for that. Who do FIB investigations instead of railroading an ooc punishment based off of ooc information.
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For antag's to play into something and drive story into the server, for whatever magic flare for them to learn the impossible about a character's darkest secret. If that's too much to be included in exploitable I can easily remove it.. Also I'm sorry Alb I misread one of Resi's comments in DM's and just auto assumed you were involved in the decision making. I don't know who the admins in this decision were then! Apologies I will edit you out @Alberyk As for the bug was squashed: Yes this comment is subjective. Definitely enough to draw attention to the character. But is it really enough to prosecute an official case over? Who's to say it wasn't a spider or a personal agenda he was handling. It's subjective and not beyond a reasonable doubt.
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I would also like to add I was contacted after this decision was made, how many weeks later. No input was sought from me or clarification on the events that occurred or I think this probably could have been easily avoided. I'm all for having FIB sit Yahir down to investigate the events that occurred and how Wxkri hasn't been seen prior. But I want to emphasize how there was literally no physical evidence linking him between it all. No one was alerted to the murder, no evidence collected, no body to be autopsied, and no witnesses to the murder but witnesses to Wxkri jumping into open space are available. Also I have to add. Is this not a CCIA/FIB case vs a Loremaster/Admin review route?
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BYOND Key: abigbear Staff BYOND Key: Kyres1, Resilynn Game ID: Warbling event, sorry I don't know Reason for complaint: A few weeks ago on a canon round during the warbling event. Yahir murdered Wxkri, alone, in a maintenance tunnel and dumped the body on a one way trip into space with no witnesses. Apparently I was informed that he is to be arrested and trialed for the murder. Apparently there was a possible PDA message that could have linked Yahir to Wxkri's death. Let's talk about how Wxkri was last seen JUMPING INTO SPACE WITH SUICIDAL INTENT AFTER BEING CAUGHT by Yahir, Cheshire, and I think someone else mutilating a corpse. This was the Last time he was seen by anyone but Yahir. What happens one someone falls into space? They die. How often are bodies recovered when lost in space? They're not. Yahir had a sinking suspicion they were going to go for the engine vents. He saw a security belt laying on the ground that he thought was Easter's (which apparently was just a random spawn) so he went into the tunnels, found the doors hacked, and caught up to Wxkri, and murdered him there, in the tunnels with no witnesses. I believe the PDA message in question was something about squashing a bug. Yahir never once fully admitted to murdering Wxkri in any way shape or form until he was in person with Ana face to face in an area that was completely unmonitored. As he told everyone else Wxkri fell. Let's talk about prosecution for murder. You are innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. One PDA message that is skeptical, at best, is not enough to see someone prosecuted by jury of their peers without any physical evidence, a body, or anyone being suspicious about it in the first place. As far as the COMMAND member was concerned, they fell into space and did not return. A suicide. Carp, Sharks, Spaceworms, and other fauna would have long consumed Wxkri's corpse before it was found. Wxkri's murder, or even death WAS NOT common knowledge. This, quite frankly, does not even begin to hold up for a prosecution to go forward. Yahir would have said upon interview, he fell and by squashing a bug he was handling a personal problem to any investigator. If there is another PDA message in all this I'd need to see it to add clarification, but again, with no body, evidence, and last time seen being a fatal jump into space. Well. This seems silly. A non-biased command member would state the last time they were seen was falling into space. And it's a vaurca.(no offense to the character, OOCly it hurt me to kill them off bc I enjoyed them) Evidence/logs/etc: Additional remarks: There's 3 other reasonable cause of death's I can think of alone off the top of my head, blood loss from fall, literally just falling into space and suffocating, being eaten by carp, and we can keep going. An entire murder case hinging off of a string of text messages is absurd. @Resilynn @kyres1
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-1 smh no mention of their religious journey in the srom
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Incident Report 12/12/2461 O.Roadman-M.Newton/F.Gonzales
Bear replied to Brayce's topic in Closed reports
TO: Oliver Roadman, Chief Engieer, NSS Aurora FROM: CCIAAMS, NTCC Odin SUBJECT: RE: Incident Report -------------------- BODY: The investigation of this incident has concluded, and appropriate action has been taken for affected individuals. This matter will now be considered resolved. -------------------- DTG: 10-10:40-TAU CETI STANDARD-01-2462 SIGN: Saul Walker -
TO: Fernando Gonzales, Chief Medical Officer, NSS Aurora FROM: CCIAAMS, NTCC Odin SUBJECT: RE: Incident Report -------------------- BODY: The investigation of this incident has concluded, and appropriate action has been taken for affected individuals. This matter will now be considered resolved. -------------------- DTG: 10-10:40-TAU CETI STANDARD-01-2462 SIGN: Saul Walker
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Character Feedback: Katana Silvers
Bear replied to SierraKomodo's topic in Character and Concept Feedback
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Character Feedback: Fatima Tadhhab
Bear replied to Gangstafary's topic in Character and Concept Feedback
I never saw this or I'd have said they are one of the few roboticists I thoroughly enjoy seeing on server. ^^ I'd like to learn more about who they are IC'ly one of these days. But the RP with them that I have been has been consistently solid. Props. -
Character Feedback: Katana Silvers
Bear replied to SierraKomodo's topic in Character and Concept Feedback
Robot man is bad. I cannot stress this enough. All robots are inherently. Bad. They stink. Delete all robits. They are just trying to take our jobs. BUT If I *have* to give feedback. Silvers seems like a fine character though reserved ^^ The FT description made me laugh "Oh.. it's one of those shells". I do enjoy seeing them in the round thought NOT AS MUCH as your Tajara counterparts which is clearly not biased or anything. -
Hi I was the RD that round who was part of the decision making after borers started spewing out like a halo flood carrier type. That information wasn't really available or processed. MY RD was going to suggest they had the shuttle shot down as it left. The Captain decided to make sure there was no chance they escaped. The RP was there. They did not have this information when the shuttle was called. It was a very hectic round.
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TO: Decanus, Warden NSS Aurora FROM: AMS, CCIAAMS, NTCC Odin SUBJECT: RE: Incident Report -------------------- BODY: This is an automated message to inform you that your incident report has been received and placed in a queue for the CCIA Division to review. If necessary, you will be contacted by a CCIA Agent when an investigation begins. -------------------- DTG: 07-08:20-TAU CETI STANDARD-01-2462 SIGN: CCIAAMS
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TO: Dante Volvalaad, Lab Assistant NSS Aurora FROM: AMS, CCIAAMS, NTCC Odin SUBJECT: RE: Incident Report -------------------- BODY: This is an automated message to inform you that your incident report has been received and placed in a queue for the CCIA Division to review. If necessary, you will be contacted by a CCIA Agent when an investigation begins. -------------------- DTG: 07-08:20-TAU CETI STANDARD-01-2462 SIGN: CCIAAMS
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[Accepted] Peppermint - Command App #2
Bear replied to Peppermint's topic in Whitelist Applications Archives
+1 everything i could add has already been said. A good role player without a doubt. -
Shenaanigans' Cat Application
Bear replied to Shenaanigans's topic in Whitelist Applications Archives
+1 I like it. The character has a lot of room to grow and will be an interesting fit into the Aurora fold. -
Reporting Personnel: Dar'kalh Raghragh-Jhun Mrero Rhashalii'rmirhan Khazmaher-Marashar Aheknlhalii'r, Tuldrhazmarajhunahekrirmaher Azu Zhir Job Title of Reporting Personnel: Research Director Game ID: b43-dBFu] Personnel Involved: -Rashaalii'rmirhan Khazmahr, Research Director, Victim -Zaryah Prulzorvich, Assistant, Victim -Jargon Federation, Offender -Xicic Riori, Xenoarcheologist, Victim Secondary Witnesses: -Summer Snow, Officer, Witness -Unity, Officer, Witness -Erick Silva, Head of Security, Witness -Simon Huber, Head of Personnel, Witness Time of Incident: Real Time: 1/4/2020, 6p CST. Location of Incident: xxxLocation Nature of Incident: [ ] - Workplace Hazard [x] - Accident/Injury [x] - Destruction of Property [ ] - Neglect of Duty [x] - Harassment [x] - Assault [x] - Misconduct [ ] - Other _____ (Place an x in the box that applies. If other, replace line and specify.) Overview of the Incident: This one was scheduled to supervise the Research and Development department as normal when an announcement from Central Command was given alerting us of a Peacekeeper team returning to the station. This one was relatively uninvolved with their investigation or presence until he was alerted by the central intelligence of unauthorized trespassing in his office. He moved to his office to find the entirety of the Tup peacekeeper teams having cut the wiring to his door and tinted the shades while questioning Dr. Riori. He informed them they were to leave his office due to the sensitive nature contained within the department as well as the uplink to the stationbound synthetic units. They refused and there was little this one could do as they locked down the stationbound Kaiser (using the uplink consoles in his office). Security was not willing to intervene at this point due to the heavily armed presence of the Tup. This one withdrew to the labs when the Tup entered demanding he come with them for questioning. As he is not a citizen of the Jargon Federation or obligated to follow their orders, he told them he would not. They then proceeded to assault his person by striking him for refusing their orders as multiple Tup "peacekeepers" assaulted his person and his retainer Ms. Prulzorvich. In fear for his life he withdrew from their grasp and they open fired on him with lethal laser weaponry striking him in the chest. There was little he could do at this point as he had been shot and was bleeding from their physical assault with combat-grade hardsuits and so he was cuffed and dragged into the telescience bay. The bay was then bolted by the central intelligence and stationbound units present. Unable to move this one further, the Tups then resorted to drastic measures forcing a loyalty implant to the Jargon Federation upon this one without his consent or willingness and interrogated him regarding a xenoarcheological find Dr. Riori had uncovered a few weeks prior. As this one began to lose consciousness from bloodless and an armed presence from security preparing to intervene, the Tups released this one without removal of the implant which was only discovered later as it was device designed to burrow from the ear to influence thought processes to benefit the Federation much like our own loyalty implants.. The Tups were then reported opening fire on crew during the chaos that ensued and an emergency beacon was utilized followed by the deployment of Fireteam Phoenix to the Aurora. Did you report it to a Head of Department or IAA? If so, who?: An EBS and Fax was utilized to Central Command Actions taken: Ejection of the Peace Keepers by the HoS and HoP Additional Notes: This one must note the outrageousness of this situation and the hazard crewmembers are being placed in by allowing the Federation Peacekeepers to return. Lives are at risk, others have already been lost, and only tragedy arises from their presence. He will not tolerate this assault on his person, reputation, and name to go condoned by NanoTrasen. This will be publicly condemned
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To: Ynnefer Killinski From: CCIA Division of Appeals Subject: Appeal 25/12/2461 Denial _______________________________ BODY: After thorough review of the investigation and your employee file, we cannot find sufficient cause for the reprimand to be removed. Distribution of technology from the Research and Development department will always carry inherent risks. However, distribution of devices and weaponry with the intent to detonate if mishandled by improperly trained or misinformed individuals is a carelessness that does not mesh with our goals or the mission within NanoTrasen. That being said, clarification will be provided to the reprimand noting that the injury resulted from a failsafe mechanic rather than poor construction or design. ACTION: The reprimand will be changed to be worded as follows: ________________________________ DTG: 04-02:30-TAU CETI STANDARD-01-2462 Sign: Saul Walker
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To: Fernando Gonzales From: CCIA Division of Appeals Subject: Appeal 25/12/2461 Denial _______________________________ BODY: After review of both the case and your employee file, we believe the reprimand is warranted due to both the amount and manner in which it was released. NanoTrasen invests in it's employees and scholarship programs are available. Alternatively, in the future, should such a route which to be pursued then contacting Central Command via the proper channels for authorization is required when using station resources outside of their designated function. Communication is key. However, after further investigation, I have decided to reduce the reprimand as the matter with the monkey seems trivial at best though waste of company resources in the future is not advised. Action: Reprimand reworded: ________________________________ DTG: 04-02:15-TAU CETI STANDARD-01-2462 Sign: Saul Walker
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To: Fernando Gonzales From: CCIA Division of Appeals Subject: Appeal 25/12/2461 Confirmation _______________________________ BODY: Your appeal for the following incident is currently being reviewed: Case ID: 24600923 DSa'Kuate_FGonzales Date Actioned: 04.11.2460 Handling Agent: Saul Walker If necessary, you will be contacted by CCIA Division of Appeals to discuss the resolution applied to this incident. You remain obligated to comply with previous CCIA decisions while this appeal is being processed. ________________________________ DTG: 02-04:24-TAU CETI STANDARD-01-2462 Sign: CCIAAMS
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To: Ynnefer Killinski From: CCIA Division of Appeals Subject: Appeal 25/12/2461 Confirmation _______________________________ BODY: Your appeal for the following incident is currently being reviewed: Case ID: 24600726 MPrice_KEliade_YKillinski Date Actioned: 26.7.2460 Handling Agent: Saul Walker If necessary, you will be contacted by the office of the CCIA to discuss the resolution applied to this incident. You remain obligated to comply with previous CCIA decisions while this appeal is being processed. ________________________________ DTG: 02-04:24-TAU CETI STANDARD-01-2462 Sign: CCIAAMS