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It will be a blanket 'investigator' job title. I would have gone with 'corporate investigator', but given that contractors can continue to play these roles, I felt a vague term was more fitting. To ensure that evidence cannot be misused or manhandled; security should not be looting evidence storage for antag tools. Additionally, it being in close proximity to the lab is useful for the forensics team, and there is a desk officers can access to pass anything they've found across to be catalogued. Ideally, evidence storage and processing should be the sole realm of responsibility for the investigative division, free to sort without officers mucking everything up., It is intentional, yes. You can assign the sorting of evidence between yourselves - ideally, one should be doing on the ground investigating and the other processing, but the goal here is not to turn the lab into a factory. The investigations consoles have not changed, and they will retain all their existing functions, including medical records. As for the map changes - I will look into it, but I am not really a huge fan of excessive windoors. Reinforced windows are used in substitution of partitions here, and the intent was not to wholly close off areas but add visual interest.

Functionally, detective may not as well exist. Any officer can question people or take a statement or follow up on a lead - the detective, realistically, has nothing to offer to the station. They are basically officer-lite. If the roles are merged, I have been told that their qualifications will be looked at, so the likelihood of 'two detectives who don't know anything' will be lower. What the qualifications will be, I do not know - but fundamentally, the single role will have two slots, so the fighting over the roles will not be impacted, as the percentage is really about the same.

It can be found here: https://github.com/Aurorastation/Aurora.3/pull/11392 Verbatim from the PR, By merging detective/CSI into a universal investigator role, it can help alleviate the CBT of them being separate. Reasoning in these mapping changes: -Sec has bloat. Remove briefing room. Security spawns in the upstairs classroom, which is never used anyway, so by making it the defacto meeting area it can help give the upper level some traffic. -Investigations and evidence moved to main level. Antags had CBT trying to break in to sabotage or steal things due to their weird placement and only access point being thru 300 security doors or space on the interstitial level. -Add a break room in place of old detective's office. You can put your lunchboxes in the fridge, now, wowee. Cool. The training wing gets literally no foot traffic as it is, perhaps now this will provide an RP incentive to be upstairs. -Regular officers cannot access evidence. The lab has a desk, like the armory or warden's counter. Evidence storage is down to 9 closets, from 12, but I have never used that many, so... it's at least right by the lab. -Forensics being in the back of security gives it traffic. There was absolutely no reason to be back there post round start anymore. And finally, it is a two-slot role.

My last input here is going to be to simply say - I do not have an issue with you, either. I simply disagree with your outlook on this situation, and do not find substance in the complaint. I understand why you take issue with it, but that does not mean that I find the issue you have substantial. We merely disagree, and I want to be clear my argument is not an attack on you personally. I've provided my side of the round, and what occurred, so unless admins have any other questions, I've nothing more to add.

This will be my final post here; I feel like this thread is being very circular. Ultimately, I don't know who you spoke to, but the supposition we needed to involve you in an investigation involving yourself, and a fragile diplomatic incident at that, is very wrong. You were purposely not informed to keep things above board, the evidence gathered was verified by three independent parties and maintained for the Odin to even check a fourth time to prevent any misconceptions of foul play, and if you want to get technical - I am the one who found the bug, and would have followed the IR, and I followed the regulation to a T. I attempted to resolve it in-round and reported it to my superior, who, with the other command team, voted to contact Central for guidance, as they should, because there is no way for us to compel you to comply with stationside security. Talking to you would not have changed anything. Fundamentally, it does not matter why you bugged the bar. 'I did it to spy on my own people instead of the company at the good-will event of another nation I am locked in a cold war with' is no less palatable than 'I did it to spy on the company'. And even then, the bug is not the core issue of the IR in question, which is more concerned with your character consciously producing a serious diplomatic incident by taking supplies sent to the company by the Republic as a good faith gesture and in celebration of their relationship, trashing them, and then trying to hijack the event as though it was instead the DPRA. This would have ruffled more big-wig's feathers than a bug in a public location. Intent, here, is meaningless. CC has to be contacted. The 'local ISD' cannot do anything to you. And, even if we assume that the command staff told you about the bug, and you gave them your reasoning, and everything was hunky-dory, there would still be an IR, because I would have filed it had Cnaym not, so we are right back at square one. Finally, it does not matter that your character would not 'realistically' place a bug there, or so on. The fact of the matter is, at the end of the day, this is a game with a roleplay twist. The bug was where it was due to intentional coding mechanics and, to be blunt, your imperfect knowledge of how the game functions. The bug was found. This is how the cookie crumbles. Time and time again it has been pointed out that the bug was a tertiary issue, as the event situation is the major problem here, which you did, by yourself, with no extraneous issues to muddy the waters. Personally, I do not find substance in your suppositions that command did a bad job, or that you needed to be kept informed of an investigation into your own criminal wrongdoing, that Cnaym baited you into an IR, or anything else - If anything, I am sincerely disappointed that this thread exists because it was another moment of good IC conflict and genuine roleplay that has now transformed and amalgamated into something different, and it appears to me that you are attempting to evade the consequences of your own actions, here. I enjoyed that round, I thought it was fun and engaging and far more interesting than the boring half-cocked antags that went off and did the stereotypical vampire things, but now my enjoyment of that round has been destroyed because it has been turned into some OOC slogfest for no legitimate reason. All of the time spent in here trying to OOCly explain a witness or this and that or whatever is time that could have been spent giving your side of the story to the CCIA agent investigating the case, instead of trying to have it litigated outside of the realm of IC. No one here did anything as an OOC slight against you, or targeted you, so I fail to see why this is required to be an OOC complaint. You could have told the CCIA agent of your concerns with the Command team's lack of communication, for example. Instead, we are here, going in a circle.

I'd like to clear a few things up. Tamir was not there when the bug was found, but he was brought into the investigation and helped look for other bugs, so he was aware of it. As for the 'bug', I don't agree it was a glitch. I explained in DMs that what likely happened is you clicked on the table with the bug and the bug's offset was adjusted to where you clicked on the table. This is how it always functions when you put an item on a table, it places it under your cursor, so if you clicked near the edge of the table with the bug it is likely why it was peeking out. This is intended gameplay, and how the code works. It is functional, and not really a glitch. Just an unfortunate series of events. Ultimately, I do not believe Cnaym acted with any untoward motions here. Had he not made an IR over the situation, I would have been forced to file one myself.

I completely agree with Danse. If the Personnel Terminal wants to be an unofficial server, then it should not have a matching icon, should not host lore events or arc tie-ins with existing in-game arcs (like the Blood Moon concert and book store), and then at that point it will be free to do whatever it wants much like the other non-affiliated community servers, outside of the realm of accountability and oversight that the standard Aurora staff make-up is subject to. But it cannot have it's cake and eat it too. It should not be an 'unofficial' server that has serious ties to ongoing in-game, in-sever event chains, which is perhaps the most egregious violation of this 'unofficial independent' status. Its staff members are not beholden to the typical complaint and resolution formats, the moderators and administrators are not made up entirely of Aurora staff and are not subject to the same stringent verification or application process but are instead instated entirely on a whim.

Edit: I've spoken with the applicant at length in private and they were calm, level-headed, and our competing viewpoints came to a middle ground, which is a rarity indeed when dealing with members of the lore staff. I tentatively would like to +1 this app, for as worthless as my opinion is, and I am sure they will approach Tajara lore with the grace and expert navigation required.

I have to say, personally, I am not impressed with this application. The vast majority of your additional comments and even your first example are laser-focused around the status of LBGT characters in Tajara lore; this is, in reality, a footnote in the overall design of the species and given how unreasonable and political the discourse and public opinion has been around this facet, spending so much of your application focusing on it reads to me as a narrow-minded take on the breadth of Tajara lore. The fact that you even need to clarify you are not a bigot in reality is emblematic of a problem. There is much and more present here than anything to do with the LBGT community; commentary on class discrepancies, failed governments, racial interactions, Soviet-bloc leadership systems - this is something that is, in essence, of little actual import beyond establishing their species as a conservative one, and it is only through the optics of political viewpoints or modern societal issues that the fact they do discriminate against LBGT individuals eclipses anything more important about them. Were the Republic to employ prisoner battalions, at no point would they 'privately sympathize with their plight'. What needs to be understood is that the Republic, and to an extent the other governments, make heavy usage of propaganda and indoctrination to control public opinion. Primarily in history when considering the countries that are an analogue to specific parts of Tajara lore, ala the USSR or Germany, opinions of soldiers regarding their penal battalion 'comrades' weren't particularly high. These men were drafted out of necessity, and sent to the front to undertake dangerous suicide missions with the express purpose of getting them killed or using them as fodder. The government and the people viewed them as such, in a majority - and even if battalions were given an objective together they typically stay with their own command structure, so the chances of them socializing or rubbing shoulders consistently while at war is low. Less opportunities for leave, constant front line deployments doing things like mine clearing... Consider that German PoWs, who were captured soldiers, were sent, in violation of the Geneva convention, to clear landmines after the war where a vast majority of them exploded and died. There was no sympathy, and these were people who weren't convicted criminals. The type of propaganda and brainwashing that occurs in authoritative and totalitarian governments is to the point where they can successfully paint humans as 'non-people' and people have no moral qualms in beating or killing or abusing them. Additionally, with the closure of the prison camps, the reformation of Tajara homosexuals is the priority. They get sent to state institutions to prepare them for return to society to be a productive member of the nuclear family unit. Were prisoner battalions to be a thing, they would primarily be violent criminals or political dissidents, I believe. Alberyk can correct me on this. To articulate the main problem I have with this application, it is that you somehow feel Tajaran conservatism regarding homosexuality should be the defining issue of their species. It isn't, and shouldn't be; there are many more flaws that are more apparent and integral to the Tajaran species beyond this, revolving around their class disputes, government structures, and race relations. This isn't a 'noblebright' moment for gay soldiers to do some heroic act and change people's minds. It isn't a dramatization of Pearl Harbor. The fact of the matter is this is not a moment, quoting the definition of noblebright to be, 'for the actions of a single person to make a difference'. It won't. The Cold War was a conflict of a different era, fought with different weapons, different viewpoints, and different countries. The lens of modern politics cannot be applied to it. Any attempt to characterize Tajara viewpoints on homosexuality as an important part of the lore to be targeted is a non-starter; it is a symptom of the way their species has developed, with much larger causes. These will not change because of the actions of a single person. The rest of your application, I feel, is exceedingly barebones in comparison to this. The focus on this point underscores the lack of development elsewhere - you talk about the Gods in Tajara lore as being something else you want to focus on. What, exactly, is there left to be expanded on regarding their religions? Tajara lore is fat, their deities are already more well-developed than I would say any other species, so what is there to be added? The group you wrote for is an interesting take on it, but there's little else of substance here for me to critique. In the end, the LBGT community in Tajara lore is a footnote and should not be the be-all end-all characterization of their species. I am wary of people who see it this way, because it suggests a political leaning of some way. If you are concerned with dyspotias, and light-in-the-dark moments, perhaps systems of government that lead to the deaths of thousands, or race-baiting and race-relations that continue to cause contentious and violent clashes are a better area to look to; the reality is that, while PCs may like to play homosexual Tajara that are sometimes stretching credulity with adherence to existing lore, the Republic and the other governments, along with their civilian populace, are firmly a nuclear family majority with these sorts of individuals outliers and expatriates who play no large part in the functioning of the species. Tajara lore has much larger built-in flaws to cause conflict.

Short of metagaming and shoving them in an incinerator or lopping their head off, they effectively are; what I am saying, clearly, is for a changeling who is lasered to death to stay dead.

If it becomes this easy to produce more changelings, then they should no longer be unkillable.

President Hadii Sends Reinforcements to the Republic of Tau Ceti! 15.11.2462 Following upsetting news of the Solarian Alliance amassing military might on the border of Tau Ceti, we were told by the State Department that President Hadii was briefed by a crack team of advisors on foreign policy and the military on the matter. After several hours of discussion, our glorious leader, calm and collected, gathered reporters and adoring citizens so that he could comment on the situation. His speech, broadcasted from the historic Victory Square in the middle of Nal'tor, was framed with the beautiful marble statue of the late elder Hadii, our valiant great leader, looming in the background over him. Flanked by two of his ministers, Irbaykhan Mirarkiizar and Zhuldyz Hadii, President Hadii had this to say: "The People's Republic of Adhomai, and the Republic of Biesel, have had a storied relationship throughout our short years of contact. Let it be known that we decry the Solarian aggression on our compatriots and comrades in Tau Ceti - who were wrongly and brazenly attacked by hostile elements of the human military, which is now poised to run roughshod over innocent citizens of not only Biesel, but of our own countrymen living abroad. We condemn the Solarian Alliance not only for their aggression to their neighbors, but also for the aggression they have shown to our countrymen, our fellow Tajara. That is why I come here before you today to announce, with great pleasure, that I have ordered the Minister of the Navy to immediately dispatch one of our mighty Sentinel-class vessels, the Minharrzka, carrying a precious cargo of supplies and a team of heroic Kosmostrelki, to assist the Republic of Biesel and her people in these trying times. The People's Republic does not forget its debts; as our friends and comrades in Biesel provided aid to us in the waning days of the Second Revolution, so to do we extend our hand in help to them in this hour of need." A special going-away event is scheduled for citizens to come see the Minharrzka leave dry dock and depart for the Republic of Biesel. It is expected to arrive in Tau Ceti in less than one week.

Supreme Commander Nated Denounces Solarian Tyranny! An emergency meeting was called earlier today in Shastar City; the National Assembly was hastily gathered and an informal session of government was held under the guidance of Supreme Commander Nated over a matter that was deemed of ‘significant national importance’. News of the death of the Solarian Prime Minister Michael Frost prompted this hasty response so that the government might quickly come together in a debate over the consequences this might have not only for Adhomai, but also for the galaxy at large. After a short few hours of deliberation, high-ranking members of the Assembly gathered on the steps of the capitol and called an impromptu press conference. Our coalition of reporters was graced with the presence of Supreme Commander Nated, who took the opportunity to address citizens both at home and abroad over the reports of the Prime Minister’s passing: “The heinous crimes of the Solarian government were brought to their penultimate karmic conclusion as the shocking news of Prime Minister Michael Frost’s death reverberated across the galaxy. After spending so long seeking out a scapegoat in our Tajara brothers and sisters and even going so far as to abandon one of their core worlds to burn in the pursuit of greed, the death of this despot is only the natural result of the campaign of authoritarianism and warmongering that the Alliance has been engaged in for so long. Make no mistake, my friends - the Alliance is in its death throes. Their glorious leader is dead, their government is falling apart, and the worlds that once made up their territories now cry out for justice and for independence. To all of the Tajara who remain in the Sol system, and especially to those who were abandoned to burn on Mars by the callous machinations of the Alliance government: now is the time to rise up. Rise up, and secure your liberty. The hearts and minds of the people of the Democratic People’s Republic are with you in this moment. The death of the tyrant Michael Frost should be celebrated - no longer need you remain under his yoke. No longer will we remain under the heel of the Alliance! Rise up against your oppressors in the Alliance, and show them you are a people to be respected. They are weak, my friends, and now that they are vulnerable, it is the perfect opportunity to strike. Show them the consequences of their Tajara ban, and prove to them that the Tajara people will not be silenced!” The Supreme Commander’s moving speech was met by a standing ovation; Tajara took to the streets both in Shastar City and all across the country to celebrate the death of the Solarian autocrat and to show their support for the Tajara who remain in the Sol system. As of this moment, no official death toll of the Martian catastrophe has been released, and we are unable to verify how many innocent Tajara were brutally murdered by the Alliance government’s experiment. However, the Assembly has vowed to investigate and hold the failing Solarian Alliance’s representatives accountable.

Reporting Personnel: Ana J. Roh'hi'tin Job Title of Reporting Personnel: Crime Scene Investigator Game ID: Unknown Personnel Involved: Cart Kanara - Corporate Liason, Offender Secondary Witnesses: Avery Bell, Detective - Witness Time of Incident: N/A Location of Incident: NSS Aurora Overview of the Incident: Here we are, once again. In less than a week since she last filed an incident report against Mr. Kanara's gross misconduct as a corporate liaison, he has seen fit to abuse the authority and power of his office as a member of the corporate hierarchy to retaliate against this one for daring to bring to light his heinous misdeeds. But he has gone beyond using his position to limit hours, or perform negative reviews, or cut pay, no - he has gone so far as to directly contact the government of the People's Republic of Adhomai to sell them information about an employee, this one, that he believes would see their deportation or arrest by the People's Republic. No such information exists, assuredly - leading to Mr. Kanara either misrepresenting facts or manufacturing blatant falsities in a flagrant misuse of his position to see her land into trouble with her native government because of the aforementioned incident report. During the shift in question, Detective Bell informed this one that previously Mr. Kanara spoke to him wherein he expounded upon having sold the government of the People's Republic information that would result in her arrest or charging. Before she was able to ascertain the specifics of these allegations, Detective Bell was called away by security business and we were unable to speak further on the matter. However, this gross and blatant misuse of his access and authority as a corporate liaison is beyond petty and petulant - it is dangerous, further reinforcing her claims in the previous report that Mr. Kanara has no understanding of the danger that he places Tajara in with his antics or childish behavior, and it is a bald-faced attempt at retaliation for naming him in an incident report. The People's Republic of Adhomai will surely dismiss these lies, whatever they may be, but the fact a member of NanoTrasen's corporate hierarchy has gone so far as to sell information to government officials to retaliate against an employee is outrageous. It is extremely telling that Mr. Kanara has not filed a report or spoken to corporate if he believes he had sufficient evidence of culpability, but has instead immediately gone to attempt to force Party officials to investigate her for his own ends. On top of him doing this, he contacted her during the same shift to speak about the incident report despite knowing this behavior was unprofessional and improper. Mr. Kanara has continually harassed, and now endangered her well being, by peddling falsehoods to Party officials in a desperate attempt to get back at her for taking the proper steps to elevate concerns through human resources. This behavior is inexcusable. Did you report it to a Head of Staff or a superior? If so, who? If not, why?: No. Transfer was called. Actions taken: Filed this report! Additional Notes: Messaging logs:

Reporting Personnel: Ana J. Roh'hi'tin Job Title of Reporting Personnel: Crime Scene Investigator Game ID: Unknown Personnel Involved: Cart Kanara - Corporate Liason, Offender Gerard Greyswandir - CCIAA, Offender Caroline Jameson - CCIAA, Offender The Entire CCIAA Division, Offender Secondary Witnesses: Rajjurl Al-Thaalzir - Head of Security Eris Vahziran - Emergency Medical Tech Time of Incident: N/A Location of Incident: NSS Aurora Overview of the Incident: It is the expectation of many employees that the officials of the Central Command Internal Affairs Agency are here to protect their interests and prosecute obvious cases of unprofessional behavior or workplace malpractice. However, the CCIAA division has utterly failed in their mandate and as such this one, having been motivated by recent events, has no choice but to file a complaint against the heinous miscalculation made by CCIAA officials and the blatant disregard for standing corporate policy and law in favor of covering up an incident involving a NanoTrasen Corporate Liaison. This miscarriage of justice is especially revolting given the subject matter surrounding it, and had the CCIAA division even bothered to perform even a cursory investigation they would have been able to substantiate employee misconduct. Instead, they elected to ignore relevant parties and testimony in favor of a lackadaisical interpretation of their mandate and a withered, meaningless 'punishment' indicating they are more concerned for the image and well-being of their human corporate employees than the appearance of their actions to the company's xeno workforce. For a company as large as NanoTrasen, one would not be remiss to think they would understand the consequences of behavior in the culture of other species - Cart Kanara is widely known and reviled by many Tajara aboard the NSS Aurora for being an open xenophile who has maintained multiple relationships with Tajara women (and by his own admittance, a desire for one with a Tajara male) in flagrant disregard for the dangers this poses to the aforementioned employees should the appropriate consulate offices find out. If you, as humans, are unaware of the consequences for xenophilia, it will be stated flat out. Punishment from admittance to mental asylums for practices are unpleasant and the procedures are invasive, uncomfortable, and stressful. The fact that this has gone overlooked is extremely shocking, and the company has made no effort to curb Mr. Kanara's dangerous behavior when he thinks with his crotch instead of his head. Let us not even stop to consider the serious conflict of interest that can arise from a Corporate Liaison engaging in secret trysts, squirreling themselves away in his office instead of... working? Instead of performing his duties to be the face of the company to numerous employees? And this behavior is obvious enough that multiple members of the crew have been made aware of it, which has ultimately resulted in Ms. Sabah El-Tusi's deportation to Adhomai to be admitted to a mental institution. A fate, one might add, could have been avoided if NanoTrasen CCIAA agents had bothered to curb this behavior rather than acknowledge it by transferring the individual in question to New Gibson for an astronomically short period of time, as if maintaining a well-paying job and full corporate benefits somewhere else was any kind of realistic punishment for his wanton endangerment of innocent Tajara; Tajara he has preyed upon. When multiple members of your crew believe Mr. Kanara to be a sexual predator, one must ask exactly what sort of face you are trying to display for the company. Is NanoTrasen staffed by sexual deviants and predators? But wait, you ask - this is recent behavior. There was no indication of it previously! Well, you would be wrong in this assumption. Despite this one having several key pieces of evidence of misconduct on part of Mr. Kanara, CCIAA agents made no effort to contact or acquire this evidence even despite them being informed by Prince Al-Thaalzir that this was the case. And had these derelict agents even bothered to pretend to even care enough to investigate, not only would they have been able to ascertain that Mr. Kanara was deeply involved with another female Tajara - Yem'trriezh Njataraj - but that this specific Tajara was a criminal who belonged to a dangerous criminal cult identified by the Federal Investigation Bureau during the time NanoTrasen Security aboard the NSS Aurora coordinated with government officials over the rash string of cultist activity taking place on station. A serious, unfortunate period in which CCIAA might be reminded that multiple innocent crewmembers lost their lives, were attacked, and were traumatized by the very same cult! Indeed, Mr. Kanara had a serious relationship with the aforementioned woman, and after she was killed in the commission of a criminal act by friendly elements he remained despondent for a time before finding yet another woman to endanger. On top of his questionable relationship to a member of the dangerous Raskara cult FIB agents rooted out of District Six, the selfsame cult who attacked the NSS Aurora, he also had dealings with another Tajaran group - the equally criminal Society of the Hidden Dusk, responsible for violent machinations and crew injures aboard the station! And to this day, Mr. Kanara himself has told the crew that the Cult continues to reach out to him, openly stating such to witnesses such as Eris Vahziran, opening yet another avenue for Mr. Kanara to be manipulated! Given that Miss El-Tusi has been deported back to the New Kingdom where agents of the Cult can openly threaten her well-being and use her as a game piece to manipulate Mr. Kanara, the fact that he remains a liaison aboard the NSS Aurora and has access to confidental employee records, schedules, and other documents of employees who were in direct opposition of the Cult is outrageous! Employees aboard the Aurora are still being targeted by the remnants and agents of this criminal group in Tau Ceti and the fact that you have unwittingly allowed a criminally inept, easily compromised corporate official who has plenty dangerous information surrounding him prime for blackmailing back aboard the Aurora borders on ridiculousness! A field trip to New Gibson and a clap on the back is not sufficient recompense for the malignant, incompetent behavior of this corporate official, and the only reason his involvement with the Society and Cult were not relayed to the FIB was by corporate request! Now, in doing so, you continue to allow a man who openly regales crewmembers with his antics of being converted by a dangerous criminal cult while simultaneously preying upon and endangering female Tajara crewmembers, sexual escapades that can realistically result in their death - unjustifiable! Unquantifiable! The CCIAA division must be held accountable for this heinous lapse in judgement, and Mr. Kanara's continued employment with the company should be re-evaluated. Miss Eris Vahziran is a friend of the individual in question and can testify both towards his endangerment of female Tajara and his involvement not only with the Cult but also the Society; equally, the recent movements the Cult has made to secure his cooperation are also something she is aware about! They are in possession of more transcripts and photos that are damaging to Mr. Kanara, whose continued deployment to the Aurora endangers multiple members of the crew and security due to their anti-cult movements during the previous crisis. Did you report it to a Head of Staff or a superior? If so, who? If not, why?: Rajjurl Al-Thaalzir, Head of Security Actions taken: Filed this report! Additional Notes: FIB Report, Supplement A FIB Report, Supplement B

ERTs are the only thing preventing 30 people being beholden to the power fantasy of 5 typically not-very-adequate, subpar, average (or worst case scenario, equally valid-salad) antagonists. It's grating how a consistent theme I see not just in this roleplay community but many others is an aversion to consequence. Not everything needs to 'enhance a round'. Getting sucked by a changeling doesn't enhance a round, it is a consequence of playing secret. Do not expect everyone to throw themselves on the sword for the antag so they can have a good round at the expense of their victims. No, getting killed is typically a consequence of an action, and the arrival of an ERT is a consequence of not pre-empting their arrival or necessitating them being called in the first place. I have seen ERTs routed, even the dreaded Phoenix Team. It is not implausible. What is implausible is the crew going monkey mode and becoming Vietnam-era soldiers as they routinely do, or NT abandoning their station to burn with a big old shrug of their shoulders. 'Enhancing roleplay' is such a loaded term, anyway. It is ridiculously subjective.

While visible to station cameras. If you're in maint or anywhere without cameras you cannot be tracked.

It already is, in a way. If you disable suit sensors, you can only be tracked while visible. People who have sensors set to full can even be tracked in areas with non-camera coverage because you know their exact coordinates. Just buy an agent ID.

I'm not for this, but I'm also not for any changes to make conversion runes instant death or quicker death; you're forgetting the fact this means cultists would use them tactically to murder people instead of converting them as well. They would supplant the actual rune that needs multiple people for that.

Yeah, but like... this refers back to my earlier point about people having a 'presence'. You detect other people around you with all 5 senses. Just because my back turns doesn't mean you're suddenly invisible. You make noise. You breathe. You smell. You have a presence. It's really gamey to turn away and have people vanish from reality. I have a neck. I can turn my head independent of my body...

CSI kit for borg is a non-starter. They will take our roleplay and job away: here's why: Every other module has an independent purpose and function. They bolster (but do not supplant) the departments they are assigned to. They do not overwrite other people's jobs or step on toes, given that engineering/medical/civilian gets a lot of work throughout the round. Basically, the existing modules can independently create your own roleplay. Clerical, however, has no real independent function and basically has to be chained to someone to justify existence. It only serves to be someone's paperwork assistant and nothing else. If you want my real honest take, CSI or Journalist fixes would not do anything, they would just create a new problem. No other module would step on toes like them; CSI and Journalist are very independent single-person roles and especially Journalist has their own gimmick that they probably want to do without having to cater something that is basically dead weight outside of the very narrow application it would have. If people want to keep clerical, I mean - I've been disappointed plenty by a ton of changes that have happened. Wanting something old, outdated and underused to remain is not really an actual objective reason to keep it. You can't always get what you want etc et al and hamfisting changes that create new problems isn't an answer from the way I'm looking at it. Basically, modules like rescue or surgery help Surgeons or Paramedics but do not overtake them because they can't do everything. Say, you give clerical CSI tools. Either you allow them to pick the cards and stuff up with the gripper (which, like, you'd have to, because evidence makes 500 objects) so that means they can run results by themselves and replace CSI without actually supporting them OR it can't pick up evidence with its gripper and leaves a mess behind of 10 fingerprint cards and 6 fiber bags: useless. In short: Other modules cannot do everything their man job can do. This is why human workers are better. A CSI borg would do everything a CSI can but better, whereas a rescue module cannot replace a Paramedic because Paramedics can do more than them. If I want a borg to help me, I'll get a borg to help me. I don't want to be saddled with them because they have such a narrow application they have to do my job for me. This doesn't fix the main issue of clerical needing to be up someone's bunghole to be relevant. Other cyborg modules are completely independent. You can be in a department with nobody or anybody.

@Myazaki Footsteps indicators are good. I feel like that would really negate most of my issues with this; it feels, currently, that it's just like you have a wall right behind you and the only indication of anyone's presence is if they speak. Perhaps if you turn away from someone, mobs stay but slowly fade away after a few moments?

I'll say what I said before: patrolling maint is not and never will be an issue. As for taking all the items and putting them locked away in the armory? Powergaming, officers shouldn't do it.

I do not like this. Vision is not anywhere near realistically simulated in this game. You look at it from a top-down perspective with a serious limit on how far you can see (like 7 tiles) when realistically I should be able to stare all the way down the hallway at traitor mcman. There is absolutely no way for SS13 to properly simulate the five senses we have in reality. You don't really need to be looking at someone to know they're there. Humans tend to have a presence, a sort of unquantifiable sensation you get when you know someone is, say, staring at you for too long or coming up on you. You smell people. You hear them. You can sense them. You can't do this in game. None of this game has been balanced with limited visibility in mind.

I find this more palatable. I have no qualms with this revised decision.