CampinKiller

I liked Markos in the round I played with him, he communicated well, didn't overstep his boundaries, and in my mind acted as a command member should

Reporting Personnel: Logan Wright Job Title of Reporting Personnel: Head of Security Game ID: cbr-c4lb (I believe, the actual timestamp is something I'm unable to find on discord, so it may be round before or after, but this is the only extended round) Personnel Involved: Delta, Security Officer - Offender Ronald Monday, Security Officer - Victim Alicia Parker, Security Officer - Witness Khaziriya Makvahkra, Warden - Witness Secondary Witnesses: N/A Time of Incident: Unknown Real Time: Mid-afternoon/evening CDT, 04/07/2021 Location of Incident: Upper-level Medical Bay Nature of Incident: [ ] - Workplace Hazard [ ] - Accident/Injury [ ] - Destruction of Property [X] - Neglect of Duty [ ] - Harassment [ ] - Assault [ ] - Misconduct [ ] - Other Overview of the Incident: Late in the shift, the upper-level hallway of the medical bay was invaded by hivebots. All officers were dispatched to the scene, armed for contact. Due care was taken for rapid deployment to prevent the number of hivebots in a narrow area from becoming too large. Three officers, Delta, Monday, and Parker, all arrived and took the lift. Monday took point and opened fire with Parker at the hivebots. Due to the narrow hall, Delta remained back by the lifts. Parker then slipped on motor oil, and was set on fire by the beacon. At this point, Monday shielded her and resumed firing. Delta grabbed Parker and moved her out of the way. As they moved Parker, Monday was downed and set on fire, as well as slashed by hivebots at close range. Delta, instead of attempting to defend his fellow officer or otherwise retrieve him, simply ran into the lift with Parker and left Monday on his own. They never reported that Monday was down over the radio, or that he had been left behind. Instead, myself and the warden, responding as backup, located Monday on the floor and on fire, with hivebots still attacking him. We destroyed the hivebots and got him downstairs, where medical worked to treat him. He was left in critical condition, and while alive, was seriously injured by the neglect of Delta to help their fellow officer, and instead flee. Submitted Evidence: N/A Did you report it to a Head of Staff or a superior? If so, who? If not, why?: N/A Actions taken: Details of the incident were not known until today. Additional Notes: N/A

Reporting Personnel: Logan Wright Job Title of Reporting Personnel: Head of Security Game ID: cbf-doS3 Personnel Involved: Kennard Rose, Investigator - Offender Beatrix Kaufmann, Bartender - Witness Amity, Investigator - Witness Secondary Witnesses: Lilya Radic, Security Officer: Can confirm that Mr. Rose was drinking absinthe. Alice Faraci, Bartender: Can confirm that Mr. Rose was both aggressive and drinking absinthe. Time of Incident: Approx. 22:15 Biesel Relative Real Time: 1730 CDT, 03/26/2021 Location of Incident: Bar Nature of Incident: [ ] - Workplace Hazard [ ] - Accident/Injury [ ] - Destruction of Property [X] - Neglect of Duty [ ] - Harassment [ ] - Assault [ ] - Misconduct [ ] - Other _____ Overview of the Incident: Toward the beginning of shift, Mr. Rose stated he would be at the Bar over the security channel. I asked that he was "surely not" drinking alcohol, to which no reply was received. Some time later, but his fellow Investigator, Amity, and Officer Radic reported that he was drinking absinthe in the Bar. At this point, he spoke drunkenly over the security channel, and I placed a warrant for his arrest on the charge of Neglect of Duty. I then ordered he be brought to the Brig, and before I spoke with him, was told by the Bartenders that he had been incredibly aggressive and rude toward them in his efforts to get alcohol. I then spoke with Mr. Rose in my office and told him his options. He rejected an agreement that would see him laid with charges and barred from the Bar in favor of being suspended, and was then suspended. It should be noted that he was incredibly dismissing of his being neglectful for drinking in excess while in possession of a loaded firearm. Submitted Evidence: Did you report it to a Head of Staff or a superior? If so, who? If not, why?: I am the superior in this incident. Actions taken: Mr. Rose suspended and barred from access to the bar. Additional Notes: N/A

Reporting Personnel: Logan Wright Job Title of Reporting Personnel: Head of Security Game ID: cbd-aIVC Personnel Involved: Marcus Clark, Quartermaster - Offender Pierre Godard, Surgeon - Witness Kruglova Zahawi, Physician - Witness Za'Akaix'Zoz C'thur, Surgeon - Witness Secondary Witnesses: N/A Time of Incident: Unknown Real Time: 2230 CDT, 23/03/2021 Location of Incident: Medical Bay Nature of Incident: [ ] - Workplace Hazard [ ] - Accident/Injury [ ] - Destruction of Property [ ] - Neglect of Duty [ ] - Harassment [ ] - Assault [ ] - Misconduct [X] - Other: Threat of suicide Overview of the Incident: Mr. Clark, the Quartermaster, was receiving a new leg from medical so as to comply with the new ability guidelines. During this time, it was reported to me by medical staff that he was making suicidal threats if these were installed, despite his wishes that they be installed. I was called to medical to handcuff him before awakening from surgery so he could not attempt to harm himself. Submitted Evidence: N/A Did you report it to a Head of Staff or a superior? If so, who? If not, why?: No, it was reported to me by medical staff. Actions taken: Subject held until transfer per corporate regulations, as no psychological staff were available. Additional Notes: N/A

If I remember correctly it was a fueltank bomb at surface cargo, cannot remember if anyone was injured or died in it. Burglar, I have no idea how it was accomplished, I wasn't aware burglars could shortrange teleport in handcuffs

BYOND Key: CampinKiller Game ID: ca9-cIgV Player Byond Key/Character name: Ricko Staff involved: N/A Reason for complaint: Poor antag play. The player did very little over the course of the round to contribute to it in any manner at all, other than doing a couple of relatively minor things and providing no narrative or story to do these things, before simply saying they did absolutely nothing when arrested by security and suddenly teleporting away in interrogation. The three things they did over the course of the round were: 1. Break into the HoP's office and steal some stuff. This was done from maintenance and was only discovered well after it because the Captain (avery's captain) noticed a locker was missing. 2. Bomb a random place on the surface with no buildup, explanation, or clear intention. 3. When in interrogation after simply saying they were just a visitor over and over, randomly teleporting away into maintenance. They did this again on the shuttle right as it left. This sort of antag play does not contribute anything to the round at all. At the least I feel that they should be talked to regarding what is expected from an antagonist and proper escalation. Did you attempt to adminhelp the issue at the time? If so, what was the known action taken by administration/moderation? Yes, but it was not taken by any staff Approximate Date/Time: 3/19/2021 at 1400 CDT

Well that is wack, that's a lot of effort for whoever used it.

Sec has never used those, ever. It’s a pain in the ass to get them to the main level anyway. It’s far more likely an antag tries to break out in them than sec randomly uses them for whatever reason, which is why the sublevel is surrounded by EMP mines.

I agree with Abo regarding the cadetship part - either remove it outright or allow exceptions for violent acts occurring in their presence. If an investigator arrests a murderer that they just witnessed murder somebody, I would not be charging them for Gross Negligence and Illegal Detention/Arrest/Holding. Far from it, I would be commending them for stopping a murderer.

Fighting antags for the most part. People don't execute antags, that happens to typically be against the rules. Even if you mean executing as hyperbole for fighting antags with slugs, what else is ammunition supposed to be used for? Should all lethal ammunition be removed because security only uses it to fight antags?

Yeah removing them from the lathe is a terrible idea, as they are most definitely needed by security, and not just for your completely baseless accusation of “executing antags.”

Don't worry, I'm incapable of reading lmao

I'd prefer heads of staff continue to not be able to be antagonists. The days of head of staff antags were overloaded with incredibly powerful antags basically having an entire department under their thumb and being incredibly frustrating to deal with, not to mention unrealistic and typically annoying - moreso, in my opinion, than antagonist security. I'd love if it didn't return.

I'd much prefer wizard axed before these two

So was malf, yet malf got removed because 99% of malf rounds were terrible, same as 99% of wizard rounds.

I'm not sure if you've noticed the incredible amount of canon attacks and violence that's happened at the civilian mining station, and security remains relatively lightly armed from a lore perspective.

I'm incredibly curious as to not only the WHY (especially given current antaggery), to include in terms of the lore, but also as to how serious a suggestion that is.

Putting aside everything that has already been said about the event being done with admin-spawned gear that was impossible to fight, I was the Head of Security, and that character had no intention of killing soldiers of his home country, much less getting his entire team slaughtered by trying to repel the military force that had them outnumbered and outgunned. This was an IC decision, not just because we'd be PK'd, but it would've happened in a merc round if a similar instance occurred. We were actually getting security ready to fight, but in a covert manner, not overtly charging in guns blazing to our deaths. This was really more of a poorly-run event than anything.

To piggyback off of prate, security has already been so heavily nerfed that there are currently times when security could get stomped easily, such as merc rounds where the mercs just roll in guns blazing, as they easily outgun security. Removing it would just cause rounds to spiral.

I think forcing people to play in any capacity is bad. To play devil's advocate, are we really going to be noting, warning, and/or banning people because they voted for a roundtype and then didn't want to play? Or perhaps even had some emergency pull them away? It's no different than the old proposal to prevent people from cryo'ing if they don't like the rountype - forcing people to play when they don't want to is bad. I also don't think this is a widespread issue. Except maybe deadhour.

I'm really curious as to why it was merged despite overwhelmingly negative feedback on the idea

Agony shouldn’t be reduced so hard with that pain change as well

If you're going to lower ammo, you can't lower damage, and vice versa. Personally I'd leave the ammunition capacity where it is and lower damage. Otherwise as danse said, might as well give Sec back .45s, because both make them completely useless. Removing lethal shots thru windows also makes them useless for carp, dwellers, and many other hostile things that they were introduced to deal with without Sec having to break out the rifles.

[b]Reporting Personnel:[/b] Marc Price [b]Job Title of Reporting Personnel:[/b] Head of Security [b]Game ID:[/b] b0o-axAo [b]Personnel Involved:[/b] Ian White, Scientist, Offender Jack Monroe, Anomalist, Offender Sidney Taylor, Lab Assistant, Witness [b]Secondary Witnesses:[/b] Fros'Qerr Vel-Rena, Surgeon: Operated on White after White sustained serious brain injury Milo Mendez, Detective: Interrogated White and Monroe after the discovery, also witnessed what was found in Lab. [b]Time of Incident:[/b] Approx 2130 TCStandard [b]Real Time:[/b] 2245 CST, 11/30/20 [b]Location of Incident:[/b] Anomalous Materials Lab Atrium [b]Nature of Incident:[/b] [X] - Workplace Hazard [ ] - Accident/Injury [ ] - Destruction of Property [X] - Neglect of Duty [ ] - Harassment [ ] - Assault [X] - Misconduct [ ] - Other [b]Overview of the Incident:[/b] Late in the shift, a call relating to someone giving Ian White brain damage was broadcast over Common by Miss Taylor. I asked my Detective to look into it, and he quickly discovered that the R&D staff had constructed an illegal boxing ring on the sublevel. We went to the sublevel and were let in by Monroe, and found boxing gloves, copious amounts of blood, and pain medication so "fighters could continue fighting." Statements made by Monroe and then White admitted to two combatants fighting until the other was unconscious. The shift end was so close that we did not have any further time to investigate who else was involved in the fighting ring. [b]Submitted Evidence:[/b] PDA Chat Log: Photograph of the lab: Full pill bottle of pain medication: There was also a transcript of the on site interrogation ((lost due to connorjg1 lagging out)). [b]Did you report it to a Head of Staff or a superior? If so, who? If not, why?:[/b] No, I was the only head at the time of the incident [b]Actions taken:[/b] White and Monroe were notified they were being arrested for neglect of duty pending further investigation [b]Additional Notes:[/b] N/A