CampinKiller

What Garn said above summarizes my thoughts. If someone is actually a problem, the command WL team can handle them fairly easily, but most people would probably only make minor errors

BYOND key: CampinKiller Discord name/id: CampinKiller#4205 Borg / AI names: MOTHER was my really old AI name Have you read the Aurora wiki page about the AI?: Yes Why do you wish to be on the whitelist?: I used to enjoy playing AI from time to time, and would like to be able to do so again. I also would like to explore the character aspect of playing a lawed AI. Have you received any administrative actions? And how serious were they? I had my command WL stripped in 2018, and was given a warning in 2020, but nothing outside of those. Do you understand your whitelist is not permanent, and may be stripped following continuous administrative action? Yes

Please God no

Reporting Personnel: Logan Wright Job Title of Reporting Personnel: Head of Security Personnel in Question: Robert Strong Job Title of Personnel in Question: Passenger Reason for Review: [X] - Extended Arrest History [ ] - Grievous Infraction on Record [ ] - Other: ____(Place an x in the box that applies. If other, replace line and specify.) Notes: Robert Strong has, on at least two separate occasions, been arrested for attempting to sell prescription drugs to people without prescriptions. As Mr. Strong is a passenger and not a member of the crew, I question why he is allowed to remain on the ship.

+1 Excellent roleplayer, would do well in command I imagine

The armory has weapons lockers inside one another, namely the laser rifle and SMG/pistol lockers exist on the same tile

My main concern is with the speed of being able to dispense ammo when arming officers, as well as security's ammo being locked behind power requirements. If there is no power, and security has no ammo in the armory, then they are severely handicapped.

Gary is an excellent roleplayer, and I am actually surprised to find out as of this post that he does not have a command whitelist. +1

Unfortunately it would be necessary to stay consistent with the current lore, which is yet another negative to the suggestion, in my eyes. Additionally, I don't like the idea that we can always just remove whitelists - that's the same argument that kept malf in for forever, was that we could just antag ban bad malf AIs, or strip them of their AI whitelist. I would much rather there not be the opportunity for the behavior that I believe would occur to exist, and the solution to be just to start stripping whitelists. I think the key difference here though is that the Captain is THE Captain. They are in charge of the ship, so of course they can trample over the other heads of staff, and they have more of an authority to do so in the setting and regulations because they are THE leader of the ship. Making the XO above the other heads is basically saying that this person who is probably not as experienced, who doesn't have the same requirements as the Captain, and who is otherwise just a head of staff has the same authority as the Captain in regards to everyone - and that simply does not make sense. I also submit that XO isn't an utterly worthless role - between the personnel aspects and managing the bridge/Intrepid/navigation/ship combat, I'd say it's far from worthless.

If we renamed them I’d say go with bridge officer. As much as y’all are saying “well they have a whitelist” or that they won’t have actual authority unless the Captain is dead or they agree with the Captain, those don’t assuage my concerns at all. There are already, currently, XOs who will butt into the security channel with backseating. Imagine how that would be if they were officially ranked above the HoS? Additionally, let’s imagine for a moment this does come to pass. The OM says he is telling his miners to go to X. The XO pops in and says no, X is not acceptable, you will go to Y. Since the XO doesn’t have the authority unless the Captain agrees, now there is either an argument until the Captain cuts in (if there even is a Captain, then it will just be an argument) or the Captain is going to be disturbed 50 times a round to determine if this is “what he wants” or not

I have never seen the XO as the second in command, even unofficially. I think the cons of elevating one head over the others vastly outweigh the pros. Allowing one head role authority over others will cause a behavior creep that we saw back when the HoP was considered 2nd in command at all times; that is, the XO is going to start stepping on other heads and telling them what to do when it is not warranted. Similar to the discussion about not wanting the Command Advisor to backseat the command staff, I myself do not want to be backseated by an XO when I am playing a head.

I personally do not like the idea of elevating any head of staff above the rest. Back in the days of the HoP being the actual second in command, it was rarely conducive to good command coordination/play. EDIT: It would also potentially lead to a creep of XOs stepping on other heads' business and responsibilities, and using being the second in command as justification.

Basic Information Byond Account: CampinKiller Character Name(s): Logan Wright, Connor Wilson, Jackson Zhao, Kija-37 are my active ones AI Name(s): N/A Discord username + tag: CampinKiller#4205 Age: 25 Timezone: CST (GMT-6) When are you on Aurora?: Typically anytime between 1100-1800 CST during the week, weekend varies but is generally the same times Experience How long have you played SS13?: 9-10 years How long have you played on Aurora: Since late 2014/early 2015 How much do you know about SS13 (Baystation build) game mechanics?: I've played most jobs over the years, so I would say I'm generally well versed in at least the basics for most departments Do you have any experience moderating for an SS13 server?: Yes, I was a admin/head moderator on CM sometime around 2015-16 Have you read through the criteria thread; https://forums.aurorastation.org/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=4198 - and believe that you mark off all the criteria?: Yes Have you ever been banned, and if so, how long and why?: No Personality Why do you play SS13?: I play SS13 because it's a unique game, with unique mechanics, and a fun setting. It has the ability to have all the players contribute to a really interesting and fun story, and some of my favorite gaming moments have been from rounds of SS13 I've played. Why do you play on Aurora?: I play on Aurora because I've always enjoyed the server and the community, as well as because it is the best (if not only) HRP server available for SS13. The background and constant development makes it very interesting and keeps it fresh as well. What do moderators do?: Moderators ensure that rules are being followed and the game isn't disrupted on both an IC and OOC level (ie. someone flooding the halls with phoron randomly or spamming slurs in OOC). They also help players when they have questions about mechanics, lore, etc. What does it mean to be a moderator for our server?: I would say that it means that you do the above, but also are generally a respected member of of the community, and actively involved in the community. You should be willing to help new players to the game and/or HRP servers, and generally should be even tempered. Why do you want to be a moderator?: I want to be able to help out with the server and continue to make it a great place to play and community to be a part of. What qualities do you possess that would make you a good moderator?: I think that I'm generally a level-headed and laid back person, and can look at issues that may come up from an objective standpoint. I think I have been around the community long enough to know what everyone's expectations are for the community/server and would be able to uphold those. I also feel like I am a good communicator. I've been a sports official for over half of my life, and I've really learned how to communicate with people, make judgements, and handle emotions very well. How well do you handle stress, anger, or insults?: I feel like I handle these things well. As I said above, I've been a sports official since I was 12, so I feel I have learned to control my emotions well, and have taken my share of verbal abuse as well. In general I try to ignore it or laugh at it to myself. With the game, if I ever find myself getting emotional or angry with a situation, I step back and remind myself that this is a game, take a breath, and move on. Regarding stress, I also feel that I handle it very well (I main HoS for God's sake), and if I ever do start feeling quite stressed, I remove myself from the situation when possible. Anything Else You Want to Add:

Reporting Personnel: Logan Wright Job Title of Reporting Personnel: Head of Security Game ID: cmm-cJgM Personnel Involved: David MacLeod, Bartender, Offender Cyrus Mueller, Security Officer, Witness Tsisana Caladius, Xenoarcheologist, Witness Secondary Witnesses: N/A Time of Incident: Real Time: 1330 CST, Feb 13 Location of Incident: Kitchen, Deck 3 Showers Nature of Incident: [ ] - Workplace Hazard [ ] - Accident/Injury [ ] - Destruction of Property [ ] - Neglect of Duty [ ] - Harassment [ ] - Assault [X] - Misconduct [X] - Other: Suicide Attempt Overview of the Incident: Security was called to the kitchen by Miss Caladius as Mr. MacLeod was drunk, brandishing a knife, and asking for the chef. He ran off before security arrived, and we began to search for him. He stated he was "doing something" over the radio, and refused to divulge his location. As the ship exited from its bluespace jump, Mr. MacLeod stated he was in the shower. I arrived to the showers at Deck 3, finding it covered in blood. Mr. MacLeod was cutting himself with a knife in his drunken state, demanded to be left alone, and resisted my efforts to restrain him. I eventually managed to restrain him and call for medical assistance, as well as render first aid with Officer Mueller. Submitted Evidence: None Would you like to be personally interviewed?: [ ] - Yes [X] - No Did you report it to a Head of Staff or a superior? If so, who? If not, why?: I was the only head of staff on duty at the time Actions taken: No actions were able to be taken as a result of him not being found until after jump, and undergoing a medical emergency. Additional Notes: N/A

Faye poisoned the water supply, burned my crops, and delivered a plague unto my house

Hep was a consistently solid command player in the past, and I have no doubts she will be if she gets her whitelist back. I think she has proven that her attitude has changed, and she should get a whitelist again. +1

Yeah, but the difference between those and walking into an elevator shaft is that it’s very difficult to just accidentally yourself into that position, whereas being shot in the head can be an RNG thing

I don’t know why being crushed by a massive elevator shouldnt result in instant death, to be honest

L+ratio+hahahehehoho

Seconded, I literally have no clue what has happened this arc