BurgerBB Posted September 19, 2018 Posted September 19, 2018 >People imaginary murder each other all the time in this game because they are aware the imaginary people are imaginary >Imaginary children are somehow not as imaginary and make people deeply uncomfortable because they have slightly smaller sprite and a single digit IC age number >????????????????? Good to know people are capable of separating reality from games. I don't understand the intense discomfort over the possibility that a fake child might be turned into meatballs as opposed to an imaginary adult, or get weird out by people who are adults playing children. The very purpose of roleplaying is to be something you are not. Shouldn't your concern be reserved for people who want to turn people into meatballs, not the possibility that a child get turned into a meatball, specifically? did you just unironically use the "age is just a number' argument to defend adding children to the game
Hendricks Posted September 19, 2018 Posted September 19, 2018 Second thoughts, I think adding children to the game would be interesting and add something new to it, but if it's going to go down the route of torture porn, I mean I didn't think of it like that, to me it's just a game, as long as people are adults or act like them, of course there are always a few cases, but in my mind I don't think I'd enjoy it being around if that was the vibe they would have, so I don't think they should be added for this reason/reasons.
Kaed Posted September 19, 2018 Posted September 19, 2018 Child murder is on the same level as torture porn. Absolutely a subjective opinion being espoused as fact but I guess so is mine so whatever. I believe that the merits of an idea should be on the positives of adding it, not trying to block it entirely based on the possibility of being used for situations that make you uncomfortable. If this server allowed ERP, and we added children, I don't think a wave of paedophilia would be the result. Nor would a wave of child murder happen in this server. If it happens, it would be dealt with on the specific scenario. Should we never add more swords into the game because someone might torture porn cutting off every limb from someone's body with the swords? It's basically the same argument you've constructed here, only you're trying to hide behind the aegis of 'child murder is wrong' which it is difficult to produce an argument against without being labelled the asshole. did you just unironically use the "age is just a number' argument to defend adding children to the game Yes, because in the context of the game, it is. A child character would have no existence outside of the scenario where they are roleplayed. They cease to exist when you stop. They are not a real person that has a history or intrinsic value beyond being fun to roleplay as.
BurgerBB Posted September 19, 2018 Posted September 19, 2018 I don't think there is something wrong with me when I think that adding children to a game where people are regularilly killed is a bit fucked up. when it is done in an unironic and serious way. I mean some other server lets you throw toddlers at people and that doesn't bother me, it's the seriousness of the suggestion and the seriousness of the roleplay that makes me uncomfortable. The level of seriousness matters. There is a reason why I laugh at me_irl depression memes and not someone with actual depression.
LordFowl Posted September 19, 2018 Posted September 19, 2018 Voting for dismissal. This is not Daycare Simulator. Having an abundance of children on-board will only result in degradation of RP and patience as security will have to herd these cats. Restricting the rate of children requires either absurd code overhead (How exactly are we to gracefully implement a system where one player can only join if their daddy is on too?), somewhat ridiculous whitelists (Come to Aurorastation, where you can apply to be a 7 year old!), and other such silly implementations. Not to mention that no matter how you feel about the cultural hypocrisy behind the decision that it's okay to show a grown man exploding into gibs but not okay to show a child exploding into gibs, our server is not a platform for enacting societal change. Just like we do not allow ERP even though we allow people to take their clothes off, allowing children would just be opening another can of worms.
Trazz666 Posted September 19, 2018 Posted September 19, 2018 Yeah, this is going to have to be a -1 from me too.
Arrow768 Posted September 19, 2018 Posted September 19, 2018 I concur with the arguments posted by LordFowl and do not believe that adding playable children contributes to more enjoyable rounds. Therefore voting for dismissal aswell.
Skull132 Posted September 19, 2018 Posted September 19, 2018 Ye I'll just add my vote of "-1, please let us not do this ever." This would introduce a whole level of taboo that we do not want to even consider dealing with, first and foremost. It would also introduce a really fucking weird roleplay dynamic, and potentially create a situation where we have to actively weed out legitimately harmful people. So, no. Absolutely not up for dealing with this.
SatinsPristOTD Posted September 19, 2018 Posted September 19, 2018 .... What? no. There's a MILLION and one things I would never subject a child to on the Aurora. And I won't even start on the RP behind how people will interact with a child (let alone griefers) Open bar concept? Sure, you can call me a strict parent, but I'm not the type of parent to let their child near a totally sloshed stranger. Meteors and sometimes the shields aren't stable enough to cover our asses. So there's the threat of no AIR. Phoron leaks in Chemistry? Happens on accident often enough. Last I heard, phoron in the air isn't good for anyone, let alone a child. It's a RESEARCH station that can make HIGHLY dangerous chemicals, weapons, experiments. All CANONLY done so. How about the threat of blobs, carp, dangerous vines that can sprout up? Radiation storms? Viral outbreaks happen at a higher rate aboard the Aurora because a virus can QUICKLY move from person to person in a closed, isolated station. I'd like to point out NanoTrasen expects SOME sort of criminal misconduct to occur at their facility, hence the decent size prison and corporate regulation book. None of this can predicted, and yet it's all CANON things that occur. Who in their right mind would subject their children to that sort of situation? uhh... call The Department of Family and Children Services if a parent thinks taking their child to a facility that often gets radiation storms is okay.
Butterrobber202 Posted September 19, 2018 Posted September 19, 2018 yeah, I don't wanna fill out a CIAA report on how some dumbass kid fell into the trash compactor
ben10083 Posted September 20, 2018 Posted September 20, 2018 yeah, I don't wanna fill out a CIAA report on how some dumbass kid fell into the trash compactor And I don't want to interview children in the report, overall I feel uncomfortable with this idea, -1.
Brutishcrab51 Posted September 20, 2018 Posted September 20, 2018 Thinking about it with the above said, yeah, I'll change my +1 to a -1. This isn't Lifeweb.
Faris Posted September 21, 2018 Posted September 21, 2018 Ye I'll just add my vote of "-1, please let us not do this ever." This would introduce a whole level of taboo that we do not want to even consider dealing with, first and foremost. It would also introduce a really fucking weird roleplay dynamic, and potentially create a situation where we have to actively weed out legitimately harmful people. So, no. Absolutely not up for dealing with this. Essentially this.
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