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Being that this does  not actually exist in corporate regulations, yet is enforced by Security all the time, I would like to propose actual concrete regs.
You do not need to speak only basic over the radio providing it is:
Your department's channel
Or code green/yellow
However, basic is required on codes blue and red (and delta), being that clear communication in an ongoing emergency is important.

Posted

I will agree that Tau Ceti Basic should be spoken on Common Channel during elevated alert status (with exception of yellow, unless explicitly clarified by the Captain or HoS).

Half the time someone doesn’t want to put the effort of seeing each other and speak in their native language when they can easily do it over common channels.

Security is constantly looking for a valid reason to charge you for misuse of communication so they can understand what the hell you are saying. If it is much of a hassle, just have the AI/Borg listen in for important tidbits and relay it to security if it involves a violation of an infraction.

Posted

I've even seen Cyborgs and Androids trying to slap people with misuse of the radio for speaking a non-Basic language over the radio. The only time it should be required is during an elevated alert, and Yellow Alert doesn't count, because that's not a "security". Security doesn't gain any privileges during Yellow Alert, beyond cracking out some firearms to respond to a biohazard.

 

Just slap Security with illegal detainment if they try to bring someone in for speaking their own language.

Posted

I would also like to add, flooding the common radio in non-basic should also be listed as abuse of comms. Short quips are a-okay in my book.

Posted

bAsIc On CoMmS!1!

I really hate seeing this. These people see even one word of non-basic on a radio and they smugly chastise them for it. At least two heads of personnel I've had characters work under get a stick up their ass about it on supply radio. I think the presented guidelines are reasonable, along with what Geeves said. Seeing people talk in non-basic is leagues less annoying than seeing some smug douche lecture them.

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I've even seen Cyborgs and Androids trying to slap people with misuse of the radio for speaking a non-Basic language over the radio.

Ah yes, the worst brand of borg player. This is also terrible.

Guest Menown
Posted
2 hours ago, geeves said:

I would also like to add, flooding the common radio in non-basic should also be listed as abuse of comms. Short quips are a-okay in my book.

"To continually broadcast unimportant, untrue, or insignificant messages on the public radio frequency."

Almost eighty percent of all radio communication performed violates this. Regardless of language.

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41 minutes ago, Menown said:

"To continually broadcast unimportant, untrue, or insignificant messages on the public radio frequency."

Almost eighty percent of all radio communication performed violates this. Regardless of language.

Key word is continually. People usually continue on with insignificant messages for a few seconds, which never creates a full on conversation.

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There is no regulation on speaking basic on comms. If you’re being punished for speaking anything else, file an IR. 

With notable exception of if a head of staff instructs you to use basic.  At this point, it’s covered in regulations under following orders (even though it’s minor), and you can be charged for it  

 

Posted

I prefer to have no restrictions on which languages people can use on comms.

Freedom of speech and being respectful of other people's cultures, and all that.

Posted
2 minutes ago, Resilynn said:

There is no regulation on speaking basic on comms. If you’re being punished for speaking anything else, file an IR. 

With notable exception of if a head of staff instructs you to use basic.  At this point, it’s covered in regulations under following orders (even though it’s minor), and you can be charged for it  

 

This happens literally every time. Filing an IR would just be a headache since soooo many people do it because it's a dumb player policy people have been doing.

Posted

Personally, if you throw a couple sentences out, cool, whatever.

If you continually speak in whatever language nobody can understand you in, you should probably be PDA'ing whoever you're talking to, instead of flooding Common with something that few can understand.

If you are told to cease by a head of staff and keep doing it, then you've given them a reason to charge you.

Guest Marlon Phoenix
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It's rude to speak nonbasic over public radio but i dont think we need a regulation to babysit us. A slight edit to "when a head of staff tells you to stop" to radio misuse would cover all bases and let us handle it ourselves.

Posted
21 minutes ago, Marlon Phoenix said:

It's rude to speak nonbasic over public radio

Fits in pretty well with the rest of the chatter on common radio most of the time, then. 

But I do agree that altering misuse of comms to specifically say "talking in non-basic does not constitute misuse of comms unless it's done after a command member asked them to stop" or something more concise would be a good enough step. I really just want people to stop crying "bluhhuhh basic on comms!" the second someone says two words in sinta'unathi, or being slapped with it by gung-ho sec officers when it's not even disruptive. 

If they continue to hold a long conversation and spamming common, that already falls under misuse of comms, no matter what language.

If they continue after a command member said not to, that's failure to execute an order.

So most instances should be covered. They just need to be enforced correctly. 

Guest Marlon Phoenix
Posted

Yeah command discretion would be great

Posted (edited)

I would like to mention I have... never actually seen 'basic over common' enforced. I have seen attempts at it, but I have managed to block all of them when I explain it does not constitute misuse. I don't think this should require clarification, but I would not be opposed to it. That said, it should specify only excessive use. And preferably it should be a heads' discretion. Tau is a melting pot, I doubt NT would be very strict on what language you speak in most situations.

Edited by Nantei
Posted (edited)

The standard presently is that it is generally head of staff discretion to enforce it. Everyone on station that is a crewmember knows Basic but not everyone on station that is a crewmember knows Siik'Taj. If someone is constantly transmitting noise in Siik'Taj and refusing to abide by a simple principle of showing some courtesy, then a head of staff is free to step up and tell security to enforce the regulations.

If you see sec enforcing this without authorization or direction from a head of staff, they are over-reaching their authority and can be charged.

Edited by Scheveningen
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