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Can't you tap animals with a hand labeller? If not, might be worth adding that functionality to the hand labeller and then mapping it in xenobio.

Marlon pretty much says what I wanted to say. A chaplain recently defused a nuke by slicing the anchors to the nuke and then pushing it down a hole into space. While in the given round this was particularly heroic because it was a last second save, the precedent this sets is pretty bad, because you can essentially "defuse" the nuke from killing the entire station by slicing the anchors and then throwing it down a hole into a z-level where it is ineffective, rather than attempting the actual risk of defusing the nuke through its electronics and wiring. Naturally, if I started a project thread right now to remove the ability to even slice open the bolts with a welding job, we'd see a week-long debate about how being able to remove the anchors without the nuke disk really adds more to gameplay and roleplay than it hurts, despite evidence to the contrary. There's definitely a community problem boiling down to multiple attitudes having different opinions on how gameplay and roleplay should be, thereby harming productive attempts to achieve proper resolutions to issues.

informative post, very cool. The bold part isn't mutually exclusive to the part before it, right? I.e., -2 is always subtracted from threat level if the target is human?

I cannot say I support this. A lot of this has very little understanding of the dogunese language, it is otherwise a very sub-par application and does not demonstrate much of the doggo species and I hope you reconsider to do better for next time.

As title says. Ghosts who are bored and have low investment in the round should be able to roleplay as the station domestic pets.

Statement made by Cnaym. Just because the ban message isn't specific doesn't mean you were not banned for it. This is the last message I'm replying to you specifically, Bygone, but please stop attempting to bait.

You metagrudged me and Contextual during the round posted above and admitted to having done it for very malicious OOC reasoning. It was outright proven by the administrators that you used IC means to lash out at another player, @Contextual and indirectly so at myself, for malicious OOC reasoning. You gave zero faith to a moderator to let them do their job instead of taking matters into your own hands. I will remind you that this wasn't the first time that this happened either. @nursiekitty can tell you in detail about how they had to deal with your metagrudging behavior in the past. You have given no indication or proof that you are doing better. There are a ton of -1s not including my own in this thread. You are applying for a maintainer position, which has a degree of authority and responsibility attached to it. You are undoubtedly a very inspired and good writer. But you have shown poor judgement, you have recently abused your power and authority of a very tentative IC role as the AI to screw with someone's roleplay experience due to malicious OOC intent, to which you were also recently permanently banned for. If you cannot show that you can be responsible and good-intentioned with the small things, I don't think you should be trusted with the big things.

To which not only did Contextual and I (who quite literally were doing nothing wrong and there was no reason for you to force yourself between our characters interacting) disagreed, but after review of the administrators they believed you did wrong for things you did that round. I mostly find it ridiculous that your only point you're trying to drive here is to complain about the tone I held with you after you essentially metagrudged me and Contextual because you saw something that happened that you didn't like. If that were to happen to anyone else in this community I wouldn't be demanding they be all sugary, spice and nice either.

Merging the two borg modules is an aspect that's been a long time coming. Previous arguments in the past is that a single engineering module would have too much and do too much, but the benefits the construction one gets over the other is minimal for what it trades off.

The application looks great, hope to be able to work with you. Couple questions: A) How do you imagine or prefer team structure to work with future synth lore devs/deputies/etc.? Do you have any particular expectations? Do you prefer to be in charge, or to follow?

Jumping to a -1 as well. You abused my trust to give a faux apology and claimed that you dropped the resentment just to get me to speak favorably about you again. I regret forgiving you for the situation that you got permanently banned for.

I didn't accuse you. In fact, the situation you're talking about is something you got permanently banned from the server for (you know, harassing my friend and abusing your role as AI, and then giving ahelps a major blasting?), because I gave structured pieces of evidence that the administrators decided to compile with additional log-diving, and they believed it was in the best interest of the community to permanently ban you with a four-week appeal limit. https://forums.aurorastation.org/topic/12715-player-complaint-contextualpennant There's a particular conflict of interest that I've identified at this point because you're attempting to stick this fear that I'll lash out with retribution against anyone I don't happen to like. Not only do I not care enough about grudges to even do that, but you're assuming what I will do based on what you got permanently banned for. The worst part is that you claimed to have apologized to me for that situation and that it was all supposed to be water under the bridge on both sides, but now that I know you still harbor issues about that, it isn't just water under the bridge.

It's morein been months since the two of us have actually directly spoken to one another over discord, considering we had one another blocked for quite awhile. If you want to discuss specifics over discord DMs then hmu, if not then I respect that and won't have an issue with it.

Ahelp often, make complaints about players or characters who you think are particularly problematic. Treat the matter of what RP quality of what an antagonist offers more seriously and keep an OOC eye out for it. The staff team prefer this process to proactively and tyrannically exercising their power to separate the wheat from the chaff in terms of antagonists. As, eventually, a staff member will run into problems if they happen to be wrong in a situation. Speaking from experience there. Even a single report on someone who has no prior record of bad antagging builds their record by a single incident, even if they are not punished. This isn't the perfect solution, but it's the best solution at the moment.

Too abuse-able by groups of players, especially if the system doesn't have a proper way of determining which group of players is repeatedly screwing over a singular one. More hassle than it's worth to fine-tune. Likewise, it's super easy to come to the conclusion that someone as an antag was a "shitter no rp awful person bad roleplayer!!!" just because their character killed yours in a video game. As-is, I do think people should use the complaints section to request job-bans or antag-bans on offending players who do a spectacularly awful job at everything. After all, it's the job of staff to have to make decisions like that, so help them help the community.

Notes are stored via congruent IP/CID hits, they are not merely assigned to a player's ckey. Even if I did delete other byond accounts, why would this even matter? Furthermore, I did not delete my byond account anyway, it is just inactive from not logging onto it for a great amount of time (I lost the credentials to my old ckey anyway due to my old email attached to it also being lost). Due to how inactive accounts on byond work, they appear as though they don't exist and thus cannot be viewed through the byond profile viewer. It's simply shitcode on their end. I quite literally have not made any attempt to hide anything. Characteristically, I have always been too lazy to even consider doing that, despite having learned how to do it over time and with some Google searches, it is far too much effort for absolutely 0 payoff as I am not a griefer or a ban evader. On-server, notes and bans are assigned to 3 separate factors, the ckey, the IP, and CID (ban database's way of uniquely identifying a computer). The first is the most easily changed, the second requires a small amount of effort to spoof or just to simply move away from your previous location or use a laptop. The CID requires much more effort to change for a single computer, or a new computer outright. Skull can come in and correct me if I'm technically wrong in any of these regards, but this was what I learned being a mod on CM and the information carried over to CM. I am by no means an expert but I can safely at least say I know the bare minimum of what I'm talking about. It is an extreme effort to truly evade the notes system, and if I truly wanted to escape accountability, I probably would've found a way to do it a very long time ago. But here we are, as it turns out, I'm a lot less clever and practical than you seem to think I am. From my transition from the first account to the second, I was fully aware of this system being in place, and did not care because I did not leave due to being banned in the first place nor was I particularly intent on causing trouble when I came back. Therefore, due to the nature of the notes system, the 2 factors from previous appearances of my IP and my CID rounded up to automatically identify me and also port my old notes to my current byond account. So, whatever accusation or shade you're attempting to throw at me as some reason to claim that I've attempted to evade bans or delete my past, it does not stick. There have been no instances in recent history that I recall deleting anything I ever said whether it was for good or ill, so I do not understand what you're attempting to do here.

Which you were repeating in the present. The context is very, very, very different. That's a pretty ridiculous assumption. Because again, the context is different.

That'll be clarified for sure, then. Cannot promise exact details at this stage.

Feels like the spoon theory Nantei was talking about a couple days ago. Have to agree with this assessment, I've been pretty much thinking it for the past few years. The eternal question is always, "Is the round the antagonist's to railroad their own way, or is the round the antagonist's to play semi-cooperatively with?" There seem to be benefits and sacrifices one makes with any playstyle as an antagonist. I still don't have the answer, and I try to play antagonist infrequently so that people don't get tired of repetition.

Could I ask what the purpose and relevance is of bringing up 3 year old posts, accompanied by a barrage of very personal questions better suited to Direct Messaging than it is for a staff application? I didn't re-open this page in my browser to take yet another trip down memory lane, nor am I inclined to discuss things I had paid the price for from my own stupidity and failure. That discussion has already been had before, and there is not likely to be any new information or value from having it again. I do not agree with the principle of going back a year or more into time to pull up examples of behavior that don't currently match up with what's going on in the present, as all it seems to do in most cause/effect situations is make the defending individual feel guilty. It shouldn't be applied as a standard at all, much less even once, unless the behavior from 'then' and 'now' is identical. It isn't fair to gaslight someone like that. Re; Marlon's point. He was asking if I was de jure banned from all staff positions. My long-term and short-term memory are not especially great right now but I would have definitely remembered if I was told that I was unable to apply for staff. This application being up for this long indicates that at least this application is being considered alongside all the others. Whether I am de facto banned from all staff positions is not within my current knowledge, but I would presume that if I was, I would've been told such a week ago by this application being immediately closed by a head staff member. Marlon was not sure of this fact when this application was initially opened, so it was the tamest way to ask. Moving on. The goal will be primarily to trim the bloat of inactive IPC whitelist holders, particularly of 8 months of inactivity and upwards (spitballed number, depends on what happens, but 6 months is a worst-case scenario minimum). The whitelist holders in particular will be permitted to reapply to the same process that anyone who's never applied before must also abide. Still playing on the server but not playing IPC will not count as grounds to remove someone's whitelist. Server/community inactivity is a fairer metric to go by, it is also the only way one's activity in the game community can be tracked. If one still plays semi-occasionally i.e twice a month it's still better than "not logged onto the server in 6-8 months". An owned IPC, as property or as a product, may have some aspects to their character that make them generally more reserved or slightly less capable of emergent behavior either due to social reasons or physically enforced reasons such as differentiated programming. Contrast this with a free IPC, who has no physical restrictions of the sort that is capable of exploring abstract or difficult topics like any sentient would. A free IPC would have less of a reserved attitude and may occasionally be inclined to do things based off their own whims to experience something new and risky, because there is no cost to drawing negative attention to oneself like there is to an owned IPC who is property and must represent something higher than themselves. This and more will be integrated with IPC lore over time. It will ironically be done in an organic fashion as I want to minimize retcons as much as possible. The distinction exists to allow some players to play as more detached but-still-capable-of-emergence archetypes of IPCs, and self-owned IPCs will exist to be the most progressive aspect of IPC lore.

this is a bop. Are you still backed up with commissions for the next year?

Pasting from the Coalf thread, as I'm interested in hearing takes on two specific subjects.

I'll ask the same questions I asked Coalf, since I'm interested in the different takes various deputy candidates may have.

Oh my god he used comic sans. This will impact theirrr social crrredit scorrre, comrrrade. I would have to agree that your lore work with Taj in the past was pretty great. I do have a couple questions regarding creative direction, though. 1. What is your OOC opinion about the rather prevalent homophobia in the Tajara lore, and do you think it needs changing? To my understanding, the PRA jails and labels homosexuals (or, so I'm told, those who openly associate with them) as sex offenders if they ever catch them. The DPRA and the NKA just kill them, and the PRA is somehow considered the more progressive faction. Which technically isn't even wrong. Surely, there are plenty of IC explanations for why the homophobia exists, I've heard them all and I'm sure nobody's interested in discussing it - is the open discrimination against homosexuals (if not openly killing) really important to the Tajaran narrative, though? 2. What are some resolutions you have to make Tajarans easier to gravitate to? I found that because of the above reason and a few other aspects, particularly that PRA/DPRA/NKA loyalist characters are incredibly rare nowadays - very few people feel particularly inspired to play their Tajaran characters themselves due to the incredible, awkward baggage involved. I often see PRA consulars board and get barraged with "PRA man bad because his government discriminates against homosexuals", which leads to few people associating with the consul than what could've happened naturally had the aforementioned issue not been a factor. There are also some permeating aspects of each faction with different cultural opinions that would be considered a 'bad take' if you openly expressed it in a coffee shop.