[Accepted] Soultheif96's Command Application Again

[Soultheif96]

BYOND key: Soultheif96

Character names: 

 

How long have you been playing on Aurora?:

6 Months

Why do you wish to be on the whitelist?:

I was encouraged by multiple people to run for command as they see that I have skills to lead and also know in-depth of multiple departments but security. So, in this scenario, I wish to be on the whitelist as I am confident in my skills to lead and manage departments I am head of. 

Why did you come to Aurora?:

I came to Aurora and SS13 as a whole because I was introduced to it by UnknownMurder, along with that, I came here because I enjoy the community and the roleplay atmosphere.

Have you read the Aurora wiki on the head roles and qualifications you plan on playing?:

I have read the wiki regarding of the head roles along with the qualifications that follows with it. I plan to play as Chief Engineer, Research Director, and Chief Medical Officer as these roles are to what I am comfortable with. Head of Personnel is still questionable for me. 

Have you received any administrative actions? And how serious were they?

As you may see in the previous picture, it discusses that I need to stick to my character knowledge and also refrain from ganking as I did not escalate properly in the vampire round, lastly, the most recent one was regarding not taking notice of OOC knowledge and IC knowledge about seeing the SAT with a material/meson scanner combo. These are my only three warnings.

Please provide well articulated answers to the following questions in a paragraph each.

Mhmm.

Give a definition of what you think roleplay is, and should be about: 

Roleplay is like theater, you immerse yourself as your character, you take on their personality and background to help articulate your character to other characters ingame. As you articulate your character to others, you help formulate stories, friendships, and undergo the hardships of your character goes through. You develop a work-like atmosphere with others while enjoying yourselves. That is what role-play is like to me.

What do you think the OOC purpose of a Head of Staff is, ingame?:

The OOC purpose of a head of staff is to help other players preform their duties in-game, make sure they are following regulations and doing their jobs properly. Through this, you aim to make sure your department is functioning properly and co-exist with other departments. If one person messes up, it is your responsibility to correct their mistake and act accordingly to their wrongdoings. If the mistake is severe, it comes down to you and command to decide what punishment would be for the person who committed the mistake. Outside that, it is notable to make sure you keep a professional atmosphere while being enjoyable. It is a game after all. 

What do you think the OOC responsibilities of Whitelisted players are to other players, and how would you strive to uphold them?:

The OOC responsibilities of a whitelisted player to other players is to be a role model for them, help them learn as they go on in there play. You are the mentor, there to help teach them how to do their job and well. I aim to be sincere but stern as a head of staff as no body likes a jerk for a head of staff. (Not speaking about Gonzales, he does it well and it still amazes me.) It is your responsibility to act as a the boss of your workplace to make sure that they are not screwing around, with exception of interacting with others in public spaces. 

Could you give us the gist of what is currently happening in Tau Ceti and how it affected your character and their career?

Currently what happened in Tau Ceti now is that the Aut'akh has arrived in New Gibson and we have received a flock of new employees for NanoTrasen, along with that, we have Off-Worlders (Or spacers in the situation). As for the situation in Tau Ceti, particularly the Republic of Biesel, it is a little unstable as there are multitudes of scenarios that caused issues for the Republic.  

Generally, ORION is a free Baseline IPC that was once NanoTrasen's central intelligence and some people remember the unit from before, so it understands how command works and how to make command-level decisions on the level with synthetic subordinates. ORION looks forward to elevating itself to a higher position in order to effectively lead engineering and also carry out its duties as a primary engine technician and atmospherics technician. Along with this, it can help teach those who are willing to learn from their senior engineers. NanoTrasen would be comfortable with ORION in position as they know it can operate at a command level and delegate duties to its subordinates.

I would say that ORION would suggest a more logical approach at problems and provide solutions that may be much more rational. To translate that to story telling, would be in a midst of chaos, ORION would be at the back, discerning how to best resolve the issue with command and its available assets.

As per directives of the unit, ORION would see to it that engineering is ran with optimal effectiveness while letting the organic counterparts carry on their own needs, as long as it does not conflict with work.

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Akin to ORION, Sterben is a new character of mine who acts more in NanoTrasen's favor while willing to err a bit to allow crew members to learn. Sterben will lay down the hand if absolutely necessary. I have ran with Senior Surgeon lately with him and used the title to direct medical when they need guidance. The title is just additional access and something to let peeps know they can ask questions or when they mess up, they can ask me.

What roles do you plan on playing after the application is accepted?

Chief Medical Officer and Chief Engineer. Potentially other roles but never Head of Security.

Characters you intend to use for command or have created for command. Include the job they will be taking:

 Chief Engineer - ORION, Baseline IPC. Chief Medical Officer - Sterben, Baseline IPC.

How would you rate your own roleplaying?:

I would rate it as a 7/10, with room to improve. 

Do you understand your whitelist is not permanent, and may be stripped following continuous administrative action?

I understand that the whitelist is not permanent and can be stripped followed by administrative action. 

Have you familiarize yourself with the wiki pages for the command roles?

Yes.

Extra notes:

I have thought on my behavior in game and made adjustments to prevent myself from erring over the line of meta/powergaming.

[TheGreatNacho]

I've played rounds when Pluto's been a shaft miner. Always great to have competent shaft minters. Have also played with Sterben in Medical, and he's always knowledgeable. It'd be great to see you not only has a CMO/RD, but has a HoP too, since you can run shaft miner effectively. Perhaps you could teach new players how to shaft mine like pros?

+1

[Resilynn]

I was just thinking earlier today about you and your playstyle and how you’ve improved over the last few weeks. 

I had some pretty serious doubts before, but I think you’ve shown a willingness to improve and I think you could work your way to being pretty solid at command as long as you keep working at it. +1

Edited April 27, 2019 by Resilynn
I forgot to add an actual +1

[Mogelix]

he's not a shitter and is good at rp + a cool guy, chars applying look fine to me

+1

[VVipEdout]

An easy +1, if only because of how badly a character like Sterben as CMO to turn new medical players into a functional team is needed recently. I've no doubt about Soul being apt for a head of staff position on the mechanical side, and RP-wise I can't think of anything to add to the other comments other than their experience as a good CCIAA.

[KingOfThePing]

Before I want to +1 or -1 this app I have a question for you:
 

Why do you think it's cool beans to make an IPC, expensively built and programmed to do work in the medical field as a (frequently now, apparently) "Senior" surgeon, that is called "Sterben", so literally and impossible to misinterpret as anything other than the verb "Dying", a robot that also exclusively wears pitch black clothes, together with being painted black and having flashing red eyes?

I am perfectly honest with you here, whenever I see him on the manifest I know I will not play medical, because with no suspension of disbelief can I tell myself that such an IPC would exist in any universe, except maybe as a crude joke and none of my characters could have a straight face working alongside this character of yours.

 

Edited April 29, 2019 by KingOfThePing

[ReadThisNamePlz]

Hi. Sorry for the delay, please allow us a few days to review this app along with it's feedback.

 

[Soultheif96]

1 hour ago, KingOfThePing said:

Before I want to +1 or -1 this app I have a question for you:
 

Why do you think it's cool beans to make an IPC, expensively built and programmed to do work in the medical field as a (frequently now, apparently) "Senior" surgeon, that is called "Sterben", so literally and impossible to misinterpret as anything other than the verb "Dying", a robot that also exclusively wears pitch black clothes, together with being painted black and having flashing red eyes?

I am perfectly honest with you here, whenever I see him on the manifest I know I will not play medical, because with no suspension of disbelief can I tell myself that such an IPC would exist in any universe, except maybe as a crude joke and none of my characters could have a straight face working alongside this character of yours.

 

I understand that Sterben may appear to be quite morbid, even in name, and that is whole point of him. Sterben was designed as gallows humor type of IPC. I have seen many personas of medical, from straight up egotistical, to an asshole, to control freak, to by-the-book, to friendly and sunshine, to calm characters. Never once in medical have I ever seen something along the lines of disturbing and eerie to work with. Hence why I created Sterben, to fill in that character gap and stick out as unique compared to other cookie-cutter stereotypes with a special edge to them.

Sterben in character concept is to that eerie surgeon who knows his trade by memory processors, and wears strictly black to stick out of the white, red, green, and blue of medical bears so often. As we know in western cultures, the color black resembles death, loss of life. Alike CRASA, Dr. Gonzales, Dr. Demos, and so on, you can catch them by the eye easily, Sterben is given that catch as well simply because of his red eyes (Honestly, I would change it to white but googles monitor only gives red), black frame, and black clothes. Also, it covers up blood pretty well so only Sterben knows he is contaminated and can deal with it quickly before anyone notices something unsanitary.

Outside that, from an IPC perspective, yes, Sterben may be rather unfit for medical given its nature, but I want something to contrast with life that resembles medical.

As for seeing me on the manifest, I am sorry if I stir you away from joining medical but I have been trying to help interns learn as of late and some of them picked up the trade rather quickly thanks to me mentoring them. As for other players interacting with Sterben, I noticed that they specifically want him to treat them and I find that flattering but an unhealthy habit if it continues, will try to dump other doctors on them to break the habit before it forms. 

As always, "Turn on your sensors or you are Sterben." 

[sonicgotnuked]

I actually have experience with some of their characters. You get my +1 today Soul, you get mine. 

 

I think they are pretty good and deserve a good whitelist.

[Doxxmedearly]

I still don't feel as you've done much improvement since your first app, which was just earlier this month. Perhaps you're making strides I haven't noticed, but I still think you have improvements to make before a trial from the play that I have noticed. I maintain my -1 for now. 

[Tailson]

I am going to be very frank with you here, Soultheif. From my experience, you have a history, and not a very distant one, of blatant powergaming and validhunting. My interaction with you this evening has further impressed upon me that your inclusion as a command member on the station will be nothing short of disastrous. I won't go into detail for your benefit as we have already discussed it, but your attitude and your actions have spoken a very loud, clear message.

A very hard -1 from me, I'm afraid.

[KingOfThePing]

Alright. Thank you for your answer. I'm sorry, but I my personal verdict on your app will be a definite -1.

Though I have not interacted with your characters that much, I had a lot of opportunity to observe them and without wanting to drag this out, since everything has been said by others before me, I cannot support your command app, currently.

 

Edited April 30, 2019 by KingOfThePing

[Cnaym]

Let's be real about it, Sterben is over the top and the rest of his folks are realy good, too have my +1

[Bear]

+1 from me! 

[VTCobaltblood]

Sterben is an extremely over-the-top character, and I also don't see any real improvement from your previous application. -1

[Soultheif96]

I will make me case here shortly.

As all applications except alien races have a trial period up to a week, where it will allow you to gauge my attempt at being in a head of staff role, whereas I will use the time to better grasp command and work with other command staff members. Perhaps it will help show those who have doubt about my ability to manage, delegate power to, and be an opposing force against the antagonists with command level decisions and action. 

I understand the concern that I would misuse the position for personal use, that would not be the case, instead, I want to help add flavor once in a while to break the monotonous round of doing the same thing over and over depending on how the round goes. So I ask of you to put faith in me and see if command is fit or not for me. Otherwise, I will accept the denial of the application with understanding that people would rather leave me out of command.

Thank you for your time.

[KingOfThePing]

There are just several red flags regarding this whole thing. No one else ever had to get a special called role as a "Senior Surgeon", for example, to make it clear that they can be asked questions. You should approach someone in LOOC or even ICly, if it fits. Almost no new player asks on their own anyway. You have to approach them and the "cool" "Senior Surgeon" title won't "make it clear" to anyone or help with that. You are a whitelisted IPC player, it can be expected that you haven't started playing on the server yesterday. All in all does it look like you want to be in the center of attention lately, yesterday, for example with being a "Deputy Chief Medical Officer". Such a thing simply does not exist, and you do not become a CMO, ICly or in real life, by being a trainee for a few weeks. That's just not how it works. I don't know who played the captain that allowed this, but it's not about him anyway. You've been interim for about 5 minutes before another CMO woke up - unlucky, but be it like that. You should've just given away the things from the CMO office and reassigend back to your normal rank (not this Senior Surgeon thing, I'd still be interested how you convince everyone to just allow that either). It looked like you just wanted to keep the CMO headset (and maybe the hypospray but I havent seen it on you so I give you the benefit of the doubt) and thus access to command channels, and, more importantly the additional access, which should not have been allowed, in no case. I saw you use that access first hand, so I know it was not revoked. You also used it to cure a viral outbreak yourself, despite having a biochemist on duty who even asked if she could help.

All that looks like you just want to be in the center of attention - something that is absolutely not what being a head of staff is about. I believe you are just not fit for playing command and no one week trial will change that.

Edited April 30, 2019 by KingOfThePing

[Guest BoxWulf]

Hi!

I never post, maybe just once or twice so obviously my +1 doesn’t mean much but I can tell you, as someone who has RP’d with Soul frequently both in the past and now, that he has totally changed up the play style. 

I played in Medical and in the beginning, I did have an issue with Soul overextending his role as a chemist, Ryder, to providing urgent care to patients in need, sometimes overstepping doctors. 

However, lately, within the past month of playing with him, I’ve seen a huge change. 

He sticks to his role, whether as an engineer with ORION or Medical with “Death,” I’ve not seen him step on anyone’s toes and sticking to what their role entails. I mean, if anyone is saying “-1 because I haven’t seen you change!” That’s not really fair because if you haven’t interacted with them, how can you pass judgement?

Isn’t the purpose of a trial exactly that? A trial?

Everyone should be given a chance, especially someone who plays consistently, interacts with everyone they can, doesn’t stick to their “metacliques,” and generally tries to improve gameplay for all parties involved. 

Just my two-cents!

Edited April 30, 2019 by BoxWulf

[NerdyVampire]

I would like to see Soulthief in a command trial. It is difficult to judge the leadership skills of a player outside a command setting, so I don't really mind that Soul is pursuing more responsibility to demonstrate that to us, in fact I think it shows responsibility on his part. I haven't interacted that much with his characters in their departments, mostly because he is engi/med and I am sci/command/borg, but what I have seen is skills and knowledge and good roleplay, enough to make a competent head. The leadership, I can't judge yet. But I want to be able to.
+1 from me.

 

[Doxxmedearly]

What King is referencing is exactly the type of thing I mentioned in your first app. That doesn't appear to have changed whatsoever. Command is about delegating tasks and finding ways to make the round enjoyable for others, as you have that power at your disposal. It is not about being in the spotlight or being a super doctor. You have serious powergaming issues that need to be curbed before I feel that you've earned a trial.

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I mean, if anyone is saying “-1 because I haven’t seen you change!” That’s not really fair because if you haven’t interacted with them, how can you pass judgement?

It's disingenuous to assume we have not played with or witnessed his play before making our feedback. I may not play as much as I used to but I am still around. I'm not making these comments lightly. It's the admins decision in the end. I've provided my feedback. I hope to see continuing improvement. 

[Guest BoxWulf]

29 minutes ago, Doxxmedearly said:

It's disingenuous to assume we have not played with or witnessed his play before making our feedback. I may not play as much as I used to but I am still around. I'm not making these comments lightly. It's the admins decision in the end. I've provided my feedback. I hope to see continuing improvement. 

Hi! 

I’m not assuming anything! Just going by what I’m reading in this post! 

I know you’re making these comments with a clear conscious because denying someone a chance to prove they’ve been trying to succeed is a serious thing to do. 

I’m sure you have your reasons as you’ve previously said, but I stand firm that they should at least be allowed a chance. 

If you felt I came off rude, I apologize. 

Edited April 30, 2019 by BoxWulf

[ReadThisNamePlz]

Hello, we're going to be giving you a trial! Please collect more feedback as the trial progresses. 

Trial begins MAY/01/19 
Trial ends MAY/08/19

If you have any questions, pm me on discord at MiniMoose#6944

Little extra: 
I urge players to post feedback regarding how Soul plays command roles. The feedback here has been very mixed, so anything helps.

[Kozi32]

+1 Sterben is known player, a pretty good one, if he would play Command as he play Sterben, it will be good one

[Faris]

So I’m mostly familiar with Ryder and recently familiar with Sterden. I’m going to start by saying that I don’t support this application. Let me tell you why.

This point can be invalidated if things have changed with Ryder but the last things I’ve seen was that the character made it a habit to overrule actual medical practitioners. I think it’s fine for chemists to know first aid, it’s a thing that everyone on shift would know and it would be reasonable. What is not unreasonable is to overrule and jump into the territory of the roles that’s job is to heal people. This tells me that you muddle the line of in character and out of character knowledge far too much.

Secondly, your IPC Surgeon Sterden, perhaps a thing you’ve also improved on but something I’ve witnessed last week, was apparently capable of chemistry, surgery and parts of what the psychiatrist can do such as crystal therapy. Even IPC’s have limits and just trying to be a super doctor that can do everything isn’t really healthy for an RP environment. Limitations and challenges are part of roleplay. This is also pretty much against the rules as well.

Lastly and this is also my WORST offender here. I heard this from a grape vine which I felt was reliable, but I won’t touch on all specifics. But the essence of it was that you willingly as Ryder a few days ago send an adminhelp ticket asking for permission to attack two hostile antagonists, was refused, proceeded to do it ANYWAY. You then practically low key bragged about the effectiveness of what you did. I’m not sure you deserve to be even staff let alone get your actual whitelist here. 

Big -1, re-evaluate what you consider is acceptable behavior.

 

[StupidGeekz]

+1, Sterben is great.