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Simon is a cool guy, healthy player with a healthy outset on the game. His characters are pretty fun, involved and so far he's made more than sure that he stays involved in the Tajara lore while at the same time keeping an aura of "modernity" for his character. I like that, I can confidently say that he's a good whitelisted player. But god above I am not a man to lie and so I'll be frank, I hate that backstory. Frankly this is completely a matter of opinion and I hope it does not impact the whitelist as a whole but I just cannot approve of this without ripping on the backstory. Okay I said I'd rip it but I like this part simply because it provides a subtle hint towards Nikit's attitude, using your new whitelist to strenghten your existing character i like that. Now here is where it begins, why did you mention Nikit? Sure he ASSEMBLED it but he had otherwise absolutely no impact or bearing on the IPC? Really? I feel like this actually weakens your previous point. This is less of an involvement and more of a Stan Lee cameo. I would be okay with this mention if P.H.A.X. was somehow influenced or at least impacted by Nikit but this is like I said before just an empty pointless cameo and makes it seem like you just had an issue hitting 2 paragraphs and decided to include Nikit randomly just to fill out space. "Emulating emotions", here is the thing. You stress how Nikit likes IPCs because they're logical and that they don't have "real" emotions yet you keep contradicting yourself. Here you say he made friends, but isn't a friend someone who helps you even if they don't have a net gain? You even say later acting respectfuly out of FEAR of dismantling! You talk the talk but you don't walk the walk in this. I think you confuse respect and logic. It's logical to step aside and help a professional handle something, it's respectful to let an old lady on a train before you. I fail to see how being respectful would lead to assuming that you could purchase your freedom later. Wouldn't it actually act selfishly and steal jobs from decent folks so it could make money faster? Predatory tactics are logically way more applicable in a company like Nanotrasen then respect. So WHY does it want to be free? I'ms serious, why? Of course one can easily understand why humans seek freedom when they achieve safety, we like to think of ourselves as important and dislike being obviously controlled by others by nature. But why an IPC? This robot was built to engineering. Nikit had absolute minimum impact according to the story and you told us yourself that IPCs are logical being that only emulate emotions, so why does this IPC want to be free? To be frank this seems like you saw what other IPC whitelists did and tried to copy it while also making your own character and these two concepts seem to contradict each other. Frankly this whole app is extremely generic and boring compared to your other, much better whitelist applications. You can do a LOT better, I believe you can dude so why this weak and mellow app. Oh hello there Nikit, where were you this IPCs entire life? Jokes aside Nikit seems like a deadbeat dad this entire post, we have 0 words that suggest he did anything to actually support this IPC besides assemble it. To shorten it up: The story is weak, mellow, generic and boring but I know you can do better so you better do better or I'll beat you up.

Here is a question. So I've noticed Loow was, in his early days, very enthusiastic about playery provided lore. Namely I remember him contacting me about the homeworld of my skrell when I happenned to mention it in my application and prod for info to add to the wiki later on. I quite liked that at first. but Later on Loow did something I disagreed with fernently and that was to not grant a whitelist application because not enough players were asking the whitelistee questions in his thread and were instead giving endorsements. (most of the players didn't HAVE a skrell whitelist so how can they ask "Skrelly questions" you know?) Anyways how do you see yourself doing whitelist applications?

"revengence" would have been better. Question, what about the laser minigun? It has both fire-modes but is also a laser rifle technically I think?

I've said this previously in Discord, I like the Anomalous/Xenoarcheology suits more because they're the only spacesuit design that has a clear visor so you can see the face of the person wearing it.

Please guys at least ping each other if you're not going to quote each other because one of you doesn't have thread tracking on and the other one isn't an owner of this thread and there is a lot of discussion going on. [mention]Resilynn[/mention] here is a ping so you can find this and respond to it.

I believe I was in the round as the priestess stoking the flame as the crowd was getting violent due to the presence of a flesh-melting demon, but to explain when I asked Willow herself she said that she was, correct me if I'm wrong, okay with the wizard and the cat being there. She had not expressed as far as I remember any raised empathy for the fleshmonster from my experience.

I believe Jackboot has his thread notifications turned off so here's a ping for him to respond to this. [mention]Senpai Jackboot[/mention]

We encourage people to post here but please keep it on the actual complaint topic.

Sorry for the delay, application accepted.

Then I misunderstood and I apologise for the assumption. However it's weird you'd speak about your opinions on what robustness is, how boring torture RP is and etc. if you don't want to get into an argument. Again, if I am wrestling them to the ground. What prevents me from slapping cuffs on them. The fact is there is no way to justify the usability of the new parapen.

1) Traitors aren't security, stop thinking of them as such. 2) "Potential to be abused" is a pointles speculation, if this were true the entirety of science should just be deleted due to their high "abuse" potential. Yet you rarely hear about telescience instantly teleporting maxcaps into the AI core. Most likely because rules cover it. Blanketing every single mechanic under "Stun based" and "Non-stun based" combat is not good for long term development and quite harmful as a mindset actually. Yep. Okay question, if I have someone detained why would I be injecting them in the first place at that point. Even in your manifactured perfect scenario the parapen is an extra step. If I have someone detained enough to do what you described, I'll have already dragged them into maint.

Basing a mechanical change on the subjective opinion that certain kind of RP isn't fun for you is not really a viable defence for why something should be added. I partially agreed with Arrow in the fact that instant stuns are cancer, however from my experience I have not seen the parapen abused in the same way as flashes, batons, flashbangs etc. etc. etc. This is why I think it's an okay item to have so far, if people START abusing it I'll most likely change my stance. We don't play like /tg/ because we aren't a /tg/ server. If I wanted to play a /tg/ like server I'd go play on /tg/, not on Aurora. It's starting to look like an agenda frankly. The AM rifle costs your entire TC budget and comes with a single bullet. The 375 is overpowered and overused because there is no better alternative in the roster, I'd agree on removing it or replacing it with a slightly weaker revolver. Grenades are grenades, simple and effective. If you find an issue about those all I can suggest is "git gud". In short I'd agree with why Arrow would want to implement it if it were abused. However this project has been created purely because someone dislikes a certain kind of RP with a complete failure to realize nothing about this suggestion would actually fix any of the presented problems. Sidenote, on the matter of votes, stacking a poll 4 to 1 will lead to majority picking the most MODERATE answer, see the antag event and VP politics which have ended up in the most status quo keeping factions.

That's a flawed thought. A flash had potentially unlimited amount of stuns, every single security officer and heads of staff had it(and robotics). The parapen has 3 uses, is extremely obvious if used in public and you're sacrificing TC points for it which you could use for something else. To get it on station you rely on zombie-powder which relies on carps spawning, you being able to get them, grind them and extract the carp hurting juice. Parapen is not overused. Parapen has 3 uses. Parapen can ONLY be obtained through the traitor menu. There can't be an alternative if you've already removed all of the alternatives. This is just going to encourage people to stop using the parapen all-together and just stop doing these gimmick alltogether. Note, this'll make the sleepy-ring which has a single injection completely fucking useless.

Alright, the trial restarts now from 14th of October until 21st of October. [mention]Senpai Jackboot[/mention]

Would you have any issue then if we "restarted" your trial period? [mention]Senpai Jackboot[/mention]

Again, it perhaps wasn't adressed in the first place because there was never a real issue with it in the first place. It seems like change for the sake of change. It could be justified with as you stated "muh powergaming rules" but I don't really see a reason for it since it hasn't been abused in any recent memory? The big offending issue of instant stun tools was mostly their overuse, flash, flashbangs both. Parapen on the other hand is rarely used and when it is, it is used for its intended effect. Silent takedown. In all my admintime I have not seen/don't remember anyone using a parapen to murder unconcious people due to how easily bwoinkable that is and because you can't really RP with someone who is blacked out. Again, I'd support my timing rework I posted up there if we're going to be adamant about adding it. Otherwise the parapen is just going to be ignored for the sake of using killy weapons instead of knocky-outy weapons.

Here is my proposition: No injection message. Instant: Stamina loss. 17 Second Mute. 3 second delay: 19 second confusion. 19 second dizziness. 7 second delay: 27 second sleep.

Maybe it went unnoticed for a good reason? I mean I get moving away from stuns but someone using a parapen in actual combat is quite rare? It's usually a stab-in-the-back weapon and its whole point is that the victim doesn't have the time to alert anyone of what happened.

Now color it green and gray so I can rip and tear.

Sorry for the massive delay, trial beings today and ends on the 16th of October

If your character ain't got titties it's gay y'all

That's why I specified personally talking to someone. Radio wise people should still show up with Uknown (Ann Tagonist)

I think we've all had that time when we're wearing a mask, hardsuit are sitting in space without an ID and someone asks us. "Who are you?" And we have no way to answer because talking would reveal us instantly. Now I'm not proposing your name changes depending on what ID you're wearing, or that speaking over the radio with a normal mask and with someones ID would broadcast their name or anything. Or that ID reading range should be changed or whatever. What I'd simply like is that when one doesn't have an ID and their face is covered and they're speaking to someone one on one. That their voice will simply state "Uknown" instead of "Unknown (Ann Tagonist)". Emoting already does that and using your voice in a mask shouldn't be so easily recognizable.

Locking and archiving.

Due to surfaced evidence and the nature of the emergency. This warning will be nullified and removed. Reasoning is as thus: While the captain role is extremely important and the captain should actively try not to engage antags when unnecessary. This was one of those situations where it was necessary. It is important to keep in mind that the captain HAS a gun and HAS the abillity to get more guns. As was apparent from evidence security was either crippled or dead and the ERT was still on their way. The captain while taking perhaps a few unnecessary risks (per character discretion) was within his right to open fire at that moment. This thread will be locked and archived in 24 hours.