WickedCybs

I think it's a fine enough idea. Sometimes, I would like to do multiple rounds, but two or more hours for a single round is already a good chunk of time for me anyway. For very popular roles it was not really that uncommon to see the same people occupying it for nearly six or eight hours, depending. So, I'm fine with giving people a chance. If this ends up working out badly, reverting it would be fine. I'm interested in hearing about is whether cryoing before the hour mark will still put you last in the line for the next round. Since it says late joining past the hour mark doesn't affect your chances for the next, wondering if that works both ways. It is just security at this point that has the unique problem of that being acceptable. The solution is already in effect for practically every other role. The person job hopping gets spoken to about not doing it. If I saw service being used as a dumping ground or something, I'd speak to people about it. That said, in the NBT it will thankfully be a lot harder to justify some of the usual excuses people use when it comes to job hopping, at least to a whole other department.

I think a better idea would just be making the airlock a one way exit from the west like the research entrance.

The only bug it noted was roundstart visitors receiving duplicates of their IDs, PDAs and emergency boxes, which it fixed. The PR itself has it mentioned this is NBT prep to suit the atmosphere of the ship assuming things remain the same. https://github.com/Aurorastation/Aurora.3/pull/12539

These things. I think I understand the idea behind these, especially in the context of the NBT. Adding a new intractable element to the cryo routine. At the moment it's hard for me to get excited about using these and I don't find myself getting used to the change in how latejoiners receive their loadouts. At the moment, it really doesn't play nice with people who haven't selected a uniform in the loadout. This means if you're going with your contractor or job uniform, you spawn in a grey jumpsuit. Your accessories will apply to that grey jumpsuit. You have to take that off manually and apply it to your actual uniform. That doesn't feel great, especially for contractors at the moment who are obligated to stick with their spawned uniforms. Maybe having people spawn with their uniforms on could alleviate that. I also don't think making it act like the arrivals shuttle autodrobes works well if you're spawning directly at work. You can't miss using the shuttle autodrobes. On the station, people do end up walking out of cryo without their gear at first and sending in tickets because it's not really that intuitive to separate you from all your stuff unless you make another button press. Even once you know what to do, It's not really adding much. It might be more interesting and useful to have these cryo autodrobes vend things like extra uniform items or shoes. So people still get their loadouts when they wake up, but there's still a reason to check out the machines if needed.

You do put effort in the stuff you do from my experiences, mainly observed that with your characters when you're coming up details. I think my only concern would be how you handle HoS as it is a high stress role that also kind of relies on you being available and not inactive. Something that could be seen in a trial. I think you might enjoy HoP too considering your AI play.

It was ahelped yes,. When I took the ticket, which mentioned you ignored a dying officer and grabbed the rifle I acted immediately and that is what I saw in the moment. I'm also not sure why you think that I'd assume you somehow knew about the gun at all and beelined for it? You were obviously responding to the venting and it was on another level so you wouldn't have seen the officer with it, but it was still notable enough that you grabbed it. The circumstances and the info I had up until that point did make it perplexing, and the officer was constantly making automatic pain emotes which ultimately made me think you just weren't paying attention. It's fair to not have not directly noticed them, considering how an officer in armour and dark maintenance blends in. They did catch my eye instantly though, as did you running over them while they were in front of you. They even had a speech bubble up at one point I think, but hard to see, yes. Regarding the dragging, Fair to do it when you need to move quickly as I stated. Once you were to safety you kept doing it. It happened more than the two times you claim. We can even count nine instances of the drag damage happening in your own logs that you posted, and I'm fairly certain there was even more. I continued by speaking to you about this, because like I said. I wanted you to be careful about stuff like that for the future. The damage from dragging is actually fairly major and massive. I get it's probably not something people might consider in the moment, but it avoids further issues down the line and I have experience with people just genuinely not knowing they can drag someone in a way that doesn't kill them further. At that point I also really began to think you were tunnel visioning and not noticing the log. All in all though, the exchange highlighted a more pressing issue with you and it became my main focus rather than the situation in engineering. How you approach these tickets. You have multiple notes and an expired warning about your poor behavior in OOC channels and with staff. It's to the point where you're directly attacking the person speaking to you and I have to wonder why you think anyone would leave it be at that point once you made it the case? While I can get the indignation over how I came in swinging (I believe I should have waited until you went back up), you did yourself no favors. You continue to not do yourself any favors with how vitriolic these posts are. Your warning didn't end up being a ban because I do think even the most positive people just get seriously angry sometimes and I didn't really hold it against you there. We do in fact discuss things in msay, but it wasn't really shit-talking like you assume. I took a look at your history after the exchange and asked for some thoughts about if a warning would suffice since my gut feelings are always to be a little lenient. Read was quoting parts of what you said to highlight to me that I should be considering a ban instead.

I think the cryo cooling room should probably swap sides with the GTR, that way the GTR is closer to the OR's and the rest of medical as it is a room used a lot more than the cryo area. I think the ICU should also ideally have IV's available instead of needing to drag them out from the GTR.

If the Aurora was decommissioned I could buy that, otherwise I think It'd make more sense to stay if the station will be active still in lore

The bigger question to me is why a memorial for people who worked at the station would be moved to a place they've never been to or worked at.

Few odd things to me to me, chief of which is the existence of "Top Of The World". It just seems very weird to have this Elyiusm-like thing and I view it as the weakest part of the update by far. It honestly just took me out of reading that page because of how out of place it seemed compared to everything else. The recent changes made it a bit better but yeah, it is still rather strange to me. Other than that, the way the Economic Freedom Nationals leader is written concerns me too because the page says "Elena de Villiers often stirs up crowds at protests against the megacorporations in a gold mining hard suit. Her allegedly anti-corporate anarchist activities are a matter of rumour." The message I'm getting here is that they are a stereotypical "lower class" charismatic miner that is against the corps and gets involved in anti corporate activity personally. I get it just says allegedly but given the disparity compared to Dorn and Geza-Yaquut in how serious they seem to be, seems that really might be the case? I hope not. I don't have any real strong thoughts on the rest of the update.

I might take a crack at changing the sprite with either this or something else, soon.

ICly you're solid of course. Not much to say on that front so I'll be sticking to what I think matters on the OOC front, but there is some interconnectedness with it. Being a moderator means having a lot more areas you might be paying attention to. More areas that can cause a temper to flare, which like you said, you have a bit of. On top of IC interactions you could potentially be dealing with dead chat and its peanut gallery, LOOC and its peanut gallery, tickets, AOOC, discord, the forum and more. It stacks up. If that festers, nobody is in for a good time. This area is my main concern for this application because I believe things can really get to you personally in a way that shows on places like the relay OOC. So, it is hard for me to think it’d be right for you. We are totally allowed to be frustrated and stuff as staff. Happens to me and I like to be public about stuff. Nonetheless, that’s the main sticking point I can think of here.

Not like we ever talked much, but you seemed cool to me. Hope stuff continues going well for you.

Appeal accepted then.

Yes. That said, if you think it is going to take more than twenty or so minutes and you're in a role with limited job slots you should try to cryo yourself unless whatever needs your attention requires you to leave on the spot.

Four months is not that long. I factored in more than just the bans and this seems to be a pretty consistent issue. I also gave you quite a while to come back and cryo if needed before deciding on whether to take action. I do also get that stuff happens and sometimes you just can't come back. In these cases the least you can do is at least send in a ticket or DM somebody after the fact so we know and possibly cryo you if that's not possible for you to do yourself. Little to go off of otherwise, other than your prior history. So. If you'd like this ban lifted early I need an assurance you're going to be better about communicating your absences to us.

Good riddance. Now I assume direct control.

Was kind of a shock at first but honestly, Zavod engineering makes a lot more sense than its security and now vestigal medical sector. They already have a strong background for it, just needs more of a spotlight on it now which I trust lore will give us Heph exclusive cargo though. I'm not a fan of Heph's aesthetic and background in general. It'll be a wait and see probably but hard to think of the IC reasons for certain char concepts to even join up with them. One other Megacorp so they're not the only option would be nice to me. Maybe Idris which I think could be flavoured to have that unseen side of warehouse workers moving products and such. They'd have a different corporate culture from Heph as well.

It'd be nice, think my only concern is if it became spammy and started covering other stuff due to that. They can happen vey rapidly after all.

All of these notes are irrelevant and the context has already been provided. The whole start of the engagement was already handled in a different ticket that was resolved. I stated that in the main post itself, so I'm not sure why you typed out this response if you did read the posts on this thread or watched the video. With all that said, I don't appreciate any of your assumptions either. To further clarify what has already been said. I made this complaint due to the targeted execution which occurred. It happened after the end of the video was posted, if that confused you.

I don't really blame you guys for ending up trying to get the drop on us due to command, but yes it was surprising. I thought the gimmick was great, and I expected things would continue going down the roleplay route. It was lame to not have any dialogue exchanged. The main issue here to me is the execution. I really find it hard to believe that in the end. You "backing off" was backtracking while still shooting the rifle. I'm calling you a liar, because you outright said I fell down, stood back up and opened fire on you. Then you specifically ran up, dragged me back and ensured I'd die after that was done and over. The video shows I never collapsed when you said I did. I never "continued to get up and start shooting anyway". This is why I'm particularly irritated you would try to paint it as something like that. Even if someone is certain to be dead, that doesn't really justify an execution. I kind of expected more, there. Trying to guarantee something like that is very poor, and this isn't even the fist time I've seen it happen. The aim intent thing just surprised me like I said before, because I didn't really notice it. I was focused on the mercs piling in and took a step back. And we can see you continued shooting. The logs already show you focusing on me for those moments instead of the rest of security. So the first part of this statement didn't happen, you just finished me off. I do find it hard to believe you'd think anyone is really getting back up from getting unloaded on from a full merc team like that. Security finishing off disabled people on the ground has never really been an okay thing unless the circumstances are extraordinary. I am fine with this. People treated the death pretty cool. Not happy with the execution though. You can still see me getting shot in that so I'm not really sure what to say here. In fact, we can see you moving down and popping more shots off with your rifle purposefully. A lot of the fire was diverted, but I was still getting hit. Late edit due to this quote being changed after my response was posted?: At least two confirmed hits could be seen by the blood effect on my character after the drop, not even checking the log. Shot from you, one from another. Calling it a poor angle is rather generous there, as it seems pretty clearcut it was just an intentional attack. I'm aware of how the angles work. From that position it would have struck a window or the vending machine if he was aiming at the other officer. I acknowledged I did drop my gun after posting that video, which is seen in the main body of my post. I was in fact shot until I went down, then almost immediately executed, which we can see is about to happen by the end of the video. To me, it seems you just doubled down instead of acknowledging your mistakes. I would have been happy with an apology or something instead of needing to push it to a complaint.

Didn't realize I could upload this. gaming.mp4

I was given a video by someone who also participated in that. I was the only non-human officer in this engagement. I had a link here, but posted it further down because I forgot you can add attachements. It seems the sequence of events was, painshock dropped the gun yes. it seems obvious there was no real attempt to feign surrender here though, and they kept shooting me. I did not "Jump back up and open fire.", I remained standing. They also kept shooting even before that, so it's not as if they were surprised by the gun being picked back up. It can be seen they're still firing their rifles the entire time.

BYOND Key: WickedCybs Game ID: cdn-dqYc Player Byond Key/Character name: Peppermint/Lgn. Valeria Staff involved: Alberyk Reason for complaint: It was a merc round. TCFL deserters wanting to get phoron in exchange for not bombing the station. One thing led to another and they ended up flanking security in engineering. The leader had an issue with the aim intent, which led to my character getting shot by mistake. The other mercs joined in and all hell broke loose, which was understandable at that point. So, ended up getting hit by a combo of ballistics and lasers. This went on for a good while, I never had a gun out and I just stood there taking the shots before it finally processed they were going to kill me now. I used the laser rifle I had on my armour to return fire well after they shot me and were continuing to shoot me, and got out three or four before going down. Lgn. Valeria then pulled my character away and ensured to execute them with some laser weapon, apparently in retaliation for a false surrender and getting "back up again". It's been said I dropped the gun for some reason and was downed, though I didn't drop the gun at all, it was on my armour. I was also certain I did not go down in front of that person. They were all spaced at least three or four tiles away from me as well. I just stood still processing the confusion. The rifle was on my character's plate carrier. They did not really signal anything nor did they say get to down. Since they were also with the others still actively trying to kill me while I was there standing, doing nothing, my thought just turned to trying to do what I could before the grace period of pain ended. So I checked if I could hold the rifle, and I could. I wielded it and fired downwards from my character. It ended up striking them at least a few times. Went down fairly quick then and never got back up. The justification for outright trying to remove me from the round seems very flimsy and either based on a lie or misconception. It is something that really would have been just as upsetting if the positions were reversed and it was security executing mercs that were fired on fired on first. I don't really expect anyone to rest and die in a situation like that. It's pretty poor behaviour all around. EDIT: Just adding this in because I don't want to edit the main thing after the fact. It seems like I did attempt to draw the rifle after getting shot initially, it dropped due to the hand spasms you get from being shot, then I picked it up again, but at no point was I downed. Did you attempt to adminhelp the issue at the time? If so, what was the known action taken by administration/moderation? Yes. It was being worked out, but the round delayed for far too long so it had to be cut short. The leader was already talked to regarding the start of the hostilities. I was likely dead either way, but I did not really want to let what happened next happen again to someone else. Approximate Date/Time: August 5th, maybe 5:30pm MST.

Touches on everything I'd expect an app to look at and shows they did dive a bit deeper I think considering the references to things like the DPRA's sponsership program.