BRAINOS Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 HAPT sprites aren't exactly the sort of scary deathsquad thing we're supposed to fear or doubt even exists. here's my list of gripes: * big, big, bIG BIG BIG BIG helmet. what's supposed to fit in all that helmet?! * for such a giant helmet, the actual suit itself has no bulk at all compared to the standard spaceman silhouette. you end up with this ugly, chibi-looking guy. * i see virtually no structure to these sprites at all. no shapes or anything. it's just... a mess of stripes and giant splotches of red on the legs. * did i mention the helmet is enormous? it's literally largest than the combat RIG, which is the bulkiest suit in the entire game. * it's an ugly, boring grey. here's what i did: * resprited from scratch, obviously. went for a doomguy kinda look, which is oddly reminiscent of the classic deathsquad look. * even though it looks very much like the old deathsquad, i'd at least like to think the colors and shading are leaps and bounds ahead. * the actual silhouette itself is actually pretty imposing or intimidating: old, new, in that order. i can't bring myself to feel any fear or intimidation from some circle head ass bighead lookin ass chibi SD looking ass guy. aaaaaaaaaand with that i have really nothing else to say other than i have a shitload of .dmi's if we all like this and want it implemented. Link to comment
Wildkins Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 i like this and want it implemented Link to comment
AmoryBlaine Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Perhaps a version with the Dead Space style visor? A lot of NT suits have that, seems fair that HAPT might as well. Link to comment
Kintsugi Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 I personally do not like the Doomguy look. No disrespect intended towards your spriting skills, but I don't think it meshes with Aurora's art style(s) all that well, and the shape itself isn't shaped in the way that our Humans are. If anything - Something more Halo-esque might be better. Knockoff Spartan to the knock-off ODST of the ERT suit. In any case - I like Amory's suggestion re: visor. Link to comment
Wildkins Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 as much as it has become the de-facto style of default bottom text ss13, i personally can't stand the dead space style hardsuit helmets and given the opportunity i'd chuck them as far as i could throw them out the nearest z-level transition but i also recognize they're ingrained so far into ss13's default design that it'd actually be an easier sell to the playerbase to swap to barotrauma Link to comment
AmoryBlaine Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Just now, Wildkins said: as much as it has become the de-facto style of default bottom text ss13, i personally can't stand the dead space style hardsuit helmets and given the opportunity i'd chuck them as far as i could throw them out the nearest z-level transition but i also recognize they're ingrained so far into ss13's default design that it'd actually be an easier sell to the playerbase to swap to barotrauma I thought of it as being an NT look, rather than anything else. It'd add a bit of uniformity to their suits. ISD Voidsuits feature it, NT-Hazard Suits have it, and HAPT can have it. I think ERTs ought to as well. On top of that is the coming Mining suits, the Engineering suits. Link to comment
Wildkins Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 oh you're totally right it would be uniform and match the look and everything else i just personally despise it Link to comment
Pratepresidenten Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 AN UPDOOT IS AN UPDOOT! I FRICKIN LOVE THIS! I am always thirsty for more swole, badass sprites, and boy have you fucking delivered once again! I dont give two shits if the visor is deadspess-y or as is now, it is fucking gorgeous as is right meow. Did I mention I love dis? <33333 Link to comment
Naelynn Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 If sol can have Master Chief as their rigsuit, I am all for NT having Doomguy. Rip and tear! Link to comment
niennab Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 I have never seen HAPT but I really want to, especially if they're wearing this. The silhouette change alone is enough in my opinion for a +1!!! Link to comment
Scheveningen Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Hilarious but I think it's too obvious of a reference to doomguy. I think the visor should be changed. Link to comment
wowzewow Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 i think a good solution is to add an antenna to the side problem solved, case closed, brain lobotomized, i can't feel my left leg Link to comment
ReadThisNamePlz Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 as someone who likes to bus in hapt a lot, please make this a thing. Link to comment
BRAINOS Posted November 13, 2019 Author Share Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) you wanted less doomguy, i brought less doomguy: so the changes here keep the not dad space visor, but the visor change has still radically changed. it's more reminiscent of NT's combat RIG than their newer security RIGs. why is this? well, 1- dead spice visor designs aren't looking too well here, they just don't look good no matter how i do em. they don't look mean enough? i know that's edgy and tryhard, but so is a literal death squad, so... 2- i'm not so sure if such a team existed, NT would want their fingerprints all over the design language. remember, HAPT is basically deaf squid. they're the sort of thing you'd nervously joke about, hoping the captain would just laugh it off and assure you they don't exist, but instead, you're met with a sudden, alarmingly serious look that reminds you: if they did exist, you'd never want to find out. i've changed also, the chestplate, shoulders and back collar of the suit. i added some structure to the chestplate for less doomguy, the shoulders have been lowered, for less doomguy, and i've added glowy lights everywhere to remind everyone how sci-fi this is. they really bring out the suit's shape. speaking of shape, and in regards to the human silhouette: here we can see an updated comparison, not only of the silhouettes of the suits, but also how they fit onto a human sprite. yes, the current suit fits the silhouette much more closely, but you've really gotta consider: is that necessarily a good thing for a suit of power armor? take a glance at the two people in this image above and tell me which one is wearing an advanced combat exoskeleton designed to let them crush someone's skull in their hands or keep standing after 30 cuts with an energy sword. the current HAPT suit, with all big-ass helmet complaints aside, just looks like... any other suit. it could even be mistaken for the old roboticist's jumpsuit. Edited November 13, 2019 by BRAINOS Link to comment
Natiform Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 please god yes get these boring sprites OUTTA HERE+1 even though i know i'll very rarely see these guys i still wanna shit my pants when i do see them because seeing them means very bad things are happening. i don't get that vibe from the old sprite at all. Link to comment
AmoryBlaine Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Thank God you won't have to do every species. This is nicer. Though I still prefer Dead Space Visors. Link to comment
ReadThisNamePlz Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Oh that reminds me. Will you be spriting for Taj, Unathi and Skrell? Or just human? Link to comment
AmoryBlaine Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 minute ago, ReadThisNamePlz said: Oh that reminds me. Will you be spriting for Taj, Unathi and Skrell? Or just human? I think HAPTs are purely human- for simplicity sake. Link to comment
Brutishcrab51 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) HAPT has never had mixed-race suits or units, as far as I know. They are spawned with only one option - humans. Next up, when do Pulse Rifles and Energy Rifles get two-handed sprites? Edited November 13, 2019 by Brutishcrab51 Link to comment
Alberyk Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 They only had non human sprites due to species restrictions on rigs that do not exist anymore, it could be easily made human only. Link to comment
AmoryBlaine Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 32 minutes ago, Brutishcrab51 said: HAPT has never had mixed-race suits or units, as far as I know. They are spawned with only one option - humans. Next up, when do Pulse Rifles and Energy Rifles get two-handed sprites? I can try. Link to comment
Nantei Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Oh my god I love them. Can you please also fix the combat RIG? It looks like a stupid onion. Link to comment
Kintsugi Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 New sprite looks very good. Link to comment
Scheveningen Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 That looks better. Forgot to say that. Link to comment
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