Owen

You can reach out to me (owen2139) or Campin (campinkiller) on Discord

Hey there, @CampinKiller and I will be taking this complaint. This is just a general reminder to be aware of the forum rules, so do not post if you are not involved, and avoid personal attacks against anyone. Sparta9002 does not have a forum account yet, but has been made aware of the complaint and will try to post a response soon. If you have any questions as to whether you are "involved" or not, just message me or Campin over Discord. Thanks.

Approved

Hey, your trial will be ending in about a day. How is it going with getting more feedback? Make sure you're advertising your application in OOC at the end of rounds if you're still struggling.

On trial until 10 June 2023. Try to play command as much as possible during this time, but don't stress too much if you can't. Make sure to advertise your application in OOC at the end of the round to gather feedback on your application. We'll get your access to command roles updated soon. If you have any questions or concerns, feel free to message me on Discord: Owen#2139 Good luck!

This refers to the fact that for each ship, several people are listed who are qualified to fly it, but that preference should be given to the specific job assigned to the shuttle. So for the Spark: Miners, Xenoarchaeologists, Bridge Crew, OM, RD, XO, and Captains all can fly the ship, but under normal circumstances, miners should only be the ones flying it. This is the same for the Intrepid, but where the miners are not listed as qualified at all--the other listed roles can still pilot it should the need arise, but in general, the Intrepid should be deferred to the Xenoarchaeologists. Read in the context of the entire section, Cybs and I both believe it to be sufficiently clear. I'll go ahead and close this now.

Hi! What Kermit told you per the Guide to Piloting is correct and our overall stance on who can pilot what, and is clear that a miner is not to pilot more than the Spark. These are OOC rules and not IC regulations, so while you might be punished for piloting something you shouldn't be ICly, it should not be happening in the first place on a player level. This remains the case regardless of whether you are only docking/undocking a ship or if you are piloting it halfway across the sector. This is not something that can be argued otherwise on a complaint, as these threads do not determine policy decisions. They are about issues with staff and decisions made by staff. We’ll leave this up for a few days if there are any more questions.

Right--while validhunting was factored into the decision ultimately leading to your ban. The main issue in this specific case was the lack of self-preservation that your character displayed in getting themselves involved in the ongoing firefight. Once security teleported in, you should have attempted to disengage from this fight. As stated in the ban reason, you were unarmored and essentially unarmed with your mini-disruptor. You should be trying to avoid pain. Running up and firing at the antags point-blank is not a way that your character should reasonably act especially when there is the full security team there and fighting. I've attached a screenshot of the incident. There is ample room for your character down where the executive officer was, and that is ideally where you should have been during that firefight if not fleeing further away from the active firefight. Instead, you ran up next to the antags and proceeded to shoot them, getting shot at in the process. As of now, I will be denying this appeal but you are more than welcome to either create a new one if you agree with the ban and can demonstrate an understanding that this is not something that should be done as a BC, or you may open a staff complaint if you wish to contest the verdict. I will be locking and archiving this now.

Hello, hi. I finally had a chance to sit down and read through the appeal just now. First, I want to clarify: are you contesting the ban being placed in the first place (i.e., you believe you were right with what you did), or do you understand why it was placed and agree with the punishment but are just asking for another chance? I am more than alright with lifting this, but I want to ensure you understand why you were banned and why this behavior is discouraged for BCs.

I have a very busy day today, but I'll try to get to this in a few hours hopefully.

rest in peace asher... 😭

Yes, I would like to see off-worlder captains. I think it would be nice to have. I vaguely recall when these restrictions were a big discussion a few years back. If the IC reasoning remains that off-worlders are too new to NanoTrasen for them to climb their way up to being captain for them, it could be justified that the other member corporations were hiring off-worlders before NanoTrasen was. That way there would be off-worlders with enough working experience that the SCC would allow them to become captains on the Horizon.

I wouldn't mind having a few more string highlights added. I find that I rely on them pretty heavily, especially during more chaotic rounds.

Eyesight: as it stands captains and consulars/liaisons are in the "Flawed" category, which allows them to be basically anything short of blind. I think that section specifically is fine as it is, having a blind captain seems unreasonable. Same with consulars/liaisons who are expected to be handling a lot of paperwork. For Mobility/Limbs: I think allowing captains and consulars/liaisons to be "Heavily Movement Impaired" is probably fine. Consulars/Liaisons for sure should be allowed, but having a captain be wheelchair-bound feels a bit odd, though I think that could be fine too. You're right that they're not expected to run and fix a lot of issues that come up. The same thing goes for having "Impaired Limbs," since again, they're not going to be expected to necessarily run around and fix stuff.

Echoing Campin with this here, you definitely seem like a good fit for a command whitelist. From what I've seen in-game, you always play well-grounded and believable characters that work to help drive the overarching story of the round. +1 from me

Girdio is an excellent presence on the server, both IC and OOCly, and are a skilled roleplayer. For how long you've been on the server, I'm honestly surprised that you didn't have a Tajara Whitelist yet. Anyway, regarding the application, this is clearly a very well thought out backstory for Ramala. Definitely giving Girdio a +1 on this!

Reporting Personnel: Gamal al-Ghazawwi Job Title of Reporting Personnel: Off-Duty Crewmember (Captain) Game ID: the round before cmk-cZiT(event round) Personnel Involved: Even Fields, Off-Duty Crewmember (Investigator): Offender Artemis Grey, Off-Duty Crewmember (Head of Security): Witness Alzrun Jrruzhani, People’s Strategic Intelligence Service Agent: Witness Secondary Witnesses: Agashka Prruzhulkanich, Party Representative: the leading PRA official present for the palace visit, I believe he may have been in the room that Mr. Fields was attempting to break into. Time of Incident: 18:00ish Real Time: 1:40 PM EST, 11FEB2023 Location of Incident: Palace of Free Tajara, Adhomai Nature of Incident: [ ] - Workplace Hazard [ ] - Accident/Injury [X] - Destruction of Property [ ] - Neglect of Duty [ ] - Harassment [ ] - Assault [X] - Misconduct [X] - Other: Potential Diplomatic Incident Overview of the Incident: While the Horizon crew was present at the Palace of Free Tajara, I was approached by PSIS Agent Alzrun Jrruzhani regarding a developing security incident involving off-duty investigator Even Fields. It was reported that, despite being warned not to several times, Mr. Fields attempted to force entry into the Party Representative’s meeting room within the palace. The Palace Guards engaged in a non-lethal takedown of Mr. Fields, but he still suffered some moderate injuries. This careless action by Mr. Fields jeopardized the ongoing negotiations between Horizon Command Staff and the People’s Republic of Adhomai Representative present in the palace. It was incredibly irresponsible and downright negligent. Submitted Evidence: N/A Would you like to be personally interviewed?: [X] - Yes [ ] - No Did you report it to a Head of Staff or a superior? If so, who? If not, why?: No. All personnel were off-duty at the time, as we were present at the Palace of Free Tajara on Adhomai, but the nature of this incident warranted official reporting. Actions taken: Mr. Fields was arrested by the Palace Guard and was held in their medical bay for treatment. I negotiated the release of Mr. Fields to the SCCV Horizon for proper punishment by the SCC. Additional Notes: This was an incredibly irresponsible and idiotic decision by Mr. Fields, and I find his behavior entirely unbecoming of a member of Horizon’s Security Department. Throughout our visit, the Horizon crew was repeatedly reminded to be on their best behavior throughout the visit, and the PSIS agents specifically warned Mr. Fields to cease their illegal entry attempts. This had the potential to spark an actual diplomatic incident if Mr. Fields was not stopped in the manner he was.

I played a round earlier today with Pandora Pelagia as HoS and I was honestly incredibly impressed with how they played it. They gave off the aura of someone who was very comfortable with command play, and made sure to really focus on communicating, especially when things got chaotic. With that round alone, I would definitely give you a +1 on this. You play like someone who already had the whitelist for ages. Outside of that, I've interacted with their characters mainly Navarre a lot recently, and think they generally do a good job at roleplaying.

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I think this would be a really nice addition to have. I don't have a preference for what symbol/marker is used to indicate someone is DC'd, but just keeping people from randomly collapsing when they DC is a very nice idea. Agree with the other points mentioned about preventing the flow of events from having to stop whenever someone inevitably loses connection for a second.

100% support this, would be a very useful addition and just generally makes sense for the Spark to have. We might as well give the Intrepid one too, if it doesn't have one already (I don't think it does).

"lowpop" look at all those silly little ghost mains

I agree with Butter here. Campin is an excellent roleplayer, and definitely has what it takes to be given an IPC whitelist. Reading over the application, it looks like he's read up on the different aspects of IPC lore and how to play them properly. Giving them a definite +1

I wouldn't mind having this implemented, but I think I would prefer having an alternative way to hail/send a message to the entire sector like with what greenjoe said if both weren't going to be implemented.

Alright. I apologize for letting this sit for a few days, I've had a busy week. Unfortunately I am going to be denying this appeal for now. I encourage you to continue playing and work on developing your characters some more. I am glad that you can recognize what the issues were with your roleplay/antagonist play, but for now I still think you need some time to work on it in game. Feel free to make another appeal in at least 2 weeks (November 12th).