Coalf

Understandable, again thank you for explaining.

Thank you for cleaing that up, to clear myself up the "Taking turn for the worse" doesn't mean after you created Fernando were warned yada yada whitelists. It was meant as from the day you stopped playing any other of your characters regurarly and started almost solely playing Fernando, I believe as I've not seen you play anyone else and I don't recall anyone stopping their complains about not seeing your HoP anymore.

Look I'll be frank, you're passionate, empathetic and have the ranked up hours. This also translates to being emotional, hot-headed and often jumping the gun on certain decisions. Maybe a year ago I would have accepted you into the team, zero issues, but your most recent behaviour has been going for the worse. You've had multiple warnings ever since you started playing your character over very similar offences and multiple times this has been brought to attention of the whitelist team and the CCIA. Everyone is entitled to playing the character they want but within the bounds of believability, this is starting to edge on not believable. But this is just a character and plenty of staff-members have had contentious characters and a few of them were even jobbanned or whitelist stripped. Usually they reworked their character after though. That aside; Your push on medical doctors and general "elitism" that has been going around medical has transffered into LOOC with a few people claiming (not I'm saying claiming because there is no evidence to support this) that they don't play whenever you're in medical, simply because they don't want to get barked at in LOOC. Again, no evidence so take this with two handful of salt and the black sea along with it, but to every lie there is a hint of truth. Yet again, we could step that aside and I was willing to until I found the biggest problem, your own application. The additional comments part is VERY badly worded, it was most likely an accident but by god is it an ultimatum. I'll try to run this down. In essence this is giving us two options. Either we pass your application, nothing happens and everyone lives happily ever after because you're American Education Board qualified. Or we don't pass your trial and we're claiming that we're better judges of a person than the American Education Board. Again this might be a complete accident and you wanted to relate your IRL work to this hobby, but the way you worded is just makes it seem like we have no option but to accept you because otherwise we're saying you're bad at "what is pretty much what you were professionally trained for". IT'S A HOBBY For all the drama I cause, other people cause, I take part in, other people take part in, this is a hobby. We don't bear some mighty cross, there is plenty of perks that come with being a staff-member aswell as plenty of responsibilities but nobody here does it out of guilt, we do it because we like the game, the server and the playerbase. By golly if someone pressured you into this, if you pressured yourself into this because you think you're lazy and not doing enough for this server just do not. We do this because we enjoy it, sure I talk shit about hating it but if I really hated it I'd just leave outright, there is a lot of small thank you's that make it worth while. You should relate to that yourself as you have previously stated from your experience as a teacher, I doubt you do that out of "feeling like a lazy fuck mooching off". That is about it for now from me.

You need to tell me your discord nick though since it's not Kryostro

Yeah sure, I don't see an issue with it just don't over-shitpost in the general again.

Because it's not as satisfying to open a briefacse full of debit cards.

Alright, one more thing this is an english speaking server and it's one of the rules so I hope you get better at it soon. Have fun, unbanning, locking and archiving.

You know here I am, complete deadhour round nothing is happening. Then I get two random guys dressed as gopniks running around speaking shitty russian with the latin alphabet, alright I say to myself they're not harming anyone I'll just tell them to stop the obvious meta-communication right? You had a note before where there was nothing about bad english, so it was safe to assume you talked yourself out of it, greytiding one too about murdering a guy hugging your character, anyways I continue looking and see completely normal, properly capitalized and punctuated sentences in LOOC when security grabbed you. Alright sure you explained it as "catching things from youtubers". Yet at that point I wasn't willing to believe you due to a simple thing, you were already lying to me. This is why I simply permabanned you, the server detected both your adresses as about 98% likely to be Proxy's, sure those trigger when people are on dorms but still. So I ask you not to metacommunicate, friendly chat I wasn't even threatening you with anything and you begin to lie about the metacomms, about fucking around etc etc. This is why I wasn't willing to take a risk, the server was picking you up as a proxy, you were lying to staff and clearly metacomming. We've always had a spot of 2 very nasty griefers which I've banned multiple times already and I wasn't to take the risk with you two, doubly so when you started lying at which point I can't be sure if I can trust you with anything. So I want you to promise me that you won't be lying, right now I know you don't have an issue lying about something so extremely obvious right to my face and I can't be sure if you're not lying about your bad english either right now. So really all I ask for is if you can act honestly, restrain your greytiding and prevent metacommunications in the future.

Closed TEMPORARILY on Lore Deveopers request.

Interview with applicant: https://pastebin.com/XzCdMSFz

Are you using a Proxy server, VM or are on a shared connection like college dorms tend to have? The system bans those IP adresses so you'll get a smack for someone else who used the same addres to log in.

Sleepy is already in the team, works good, draws art and doesn't afraid of anything. However you also seem to have a similar issue as JB and that is attention. I've noticed that while you can stick to something a lot better than him, you also bounce around a lot and tend to kinda toss ideas and move onto others very quickly. Not saying this is bad but for a static species like the Skrell, this might get the players a bit nervous. Anyways let's get down to business. What do you think the skrell currently need to re-vitalize their interest? The crisis isn't as bad as memers would lead you to believe as I see about 2-3 skrell every few rounds instead of 0, but what do you think is the true CREAM to bring back old players and interest new ones? My main issue with skrell was always that they're encouraged to be "emotionless" and "expressionless", which is a questionable decision for a game that uses text to RP. What's your opinion on this? Plan on changing anything? Big fat think dropping right here, what do you think about whitelist applications? How do you think Skrell whitelist applications should be conducted? Going to be more like Loow or going for your own style? Thank you in advance for any answers.

Tbear, he is on trial, has been for like a few weeks now.

Note: I did apologise in the Parapen thread as I have misunderstood a previous posts from Burger. That was on my part. Re-reading it, it mostly seems like a pointless change now. However I still believe there is a lot of agenda pushing behind every 4th to 6th PR made. Mainly the PR's that were so stupid in essence they were shut down immediatly and no drama was stirred around them. Namely: Make AI's a % spawn, after playing borg extensively and constantly complaining that AI's don't know what they're doing. Removing Wizard apprentice contracts after meeting a peacewizard who made apprentices in a round. Multiple attempts to whitelist antags after each "bad round" even though everyone else might have enjoyed it. Observing a ninja roundstart, assuming everyone in the round is bored and making thread after thread to remove/turn it into whitelisted antag. BUT as stated by Skull on the previously made Ban Request thread It doesn't matter WHY you code, just that you code. So really these gripes are pointless to hold.

Attack logs. Shooting logs. Blood-decal increase. Moving object increase. Bullet shells on the ground. Infinitely spawning corpses and bodies. We barely got out of crashing 3 times every single day recently people.

Okay I'll rule this out simply. From the story I collected neither the Blob or the Raiders were present on station when the whole situation with shutting the shutters happened. Both the HoS character AND the CMO characters over-reacted like absolute idiots, yet I believe JB's character backed out of their resolution into a warning while I don't believe the CMO ever decided to open the shutters. The situation was resolved WITH an agreement on a WARNING, we're done with that. The IR is an in-character IR and by that standard it doesn't violate any of the whitelist specifications we put out. It doesn't ruin a round, it doesn't prevent communication and if anything it served the round better to start shit AFTER the emergency then BEFORE the emergency. Both characters over-reacted, if I took actions against one I would have to take action against the other. Thus both players can regard this as a verbal warning that their COMMAND jobs PRECEDE the CUNTINESS of their characters. Character integrity is important, but if your character is such a cunt that he cannot keep his cuntiness contained even during such simple issues, he would not have gotten the job in the first place and thus is an UNBELIVABLE command character. To continue, ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, the presumption of innocence. There is no concrete evidence to suggest foul-play besides timing and history of both players. I took both into regard, looked at what both sides presented and found the defendant not guilty. There is nothing that confirms malicious intent, Jackboot presented his timestamped post and Mofo the fact that JB was open to have a dialogue about the IR before being posted. Processing the IR is on the CCIA's but I won't take his whitelist because of the IR. If anything I'd say making an IR after a round is better than causing drama in-round. There is a lot of word-souping that amounts to absolutely nothing, Jackboot has answered everyones questions, no other IR has arised during his time as a head and he has gained positive reviews from many involved players. To put it simply, I'll accept this application and U R G E people to contact me, Alberyk or Matt if they THINK they saw foul play and neither of them is present on server. Further we'll keep an eye on BOTH offenders. Application accepted, case closed, go home people.

I'm sorry but this application will be denied due to lack of feedback. While whitelists for species don't require peer feedback the extremely cooperative and tearmwork-prone Head whitelist does to prove that your characters and you as a player get along with others. We urge you to apply in a near future and try for more feedback once you're more known on the server.

Alright I'm torn on this. On one hand you've answered all questions properly and regarding lore I have zero issues with that, issue is behaviour. Yes yes I know others have approached it but I think they have approached it from a wrong angle, they approached it from a communicative angle. Sure you can be a proper cunt but you can also raise fair points quite often and have actual good objective insight, when you try which you often don't but that's besides the point. The issue is approachability, while JB approached this issue as "talking to other loredevs" my concern is for new players. As a lore developer a person doesn't have to be a perfect example of humanity, but you come off as intimidating, very intimidating and that is something that can seriously make someone turn away from making a whitelist or even considering a species. Maybe it's the whole banter culture we facilliate, I should probably re-invent myself too but that's besides the point. But yes this is the only issue I have with this application. The answers were top-notch, you seem to know what in general the skrell need, you've answered my Whitelist question pretty much perfectly and I've got no other issues besides approachability. It's not a ringing endorsement but I would be a blind fucking idiot to say that you haven't answered questions well.

Much better now, not a fan of the bracketed exposition but it's leagues better than what you had before. +1

Wouldn't that just invalidate the malf AI gamemode alltogether? I am not against just removing malf AI gamemode and making it part of traitor do mind.

Having mained it many years ago I can confirm Phoron researcher used to be called Plasma researcher which used to be Toxin researcher.

Simon is a cool guy, healthy player with a healthy outset on the game. His characters are pretty fun, involved and so far he's made more than sure that he stays involved in the Tajara lore while at the same time keeping an aura of "modernity" for his character. I like that, I can confidently say that he's a good whitelisted player. But god above I am not a man to lie and so I'll be frank, I hate that backstory. Frankly this is completely a matter of opinion and I hope it does not impact the whitelist as a whole but I just cannot approve of this without ripping on the backstory. Okay I said I'd rip it but I like this part simply because it provides a subtle hint towards Nikit's attitude, using your new whitelist to strenghten your existing character i like that. Now here is where it begins, why did you mention Nikit? Sure he ASSEMBLED it but he had otherwise absolutely no impact or bearing on the IPC? Really? I feel like this actually weakens your previous point. This is less of an involvement and more of a Stan Lee cameo. I would be okay with this mention if P.H.A.X. was somehow influenced or at least impacted by Nikit but this is like I said before just an empty pointless cameo and makes it seem like you just had an issue hitting 2 paragraphs and decided to include Nikit randomly just to fill out space. "Emulating emotions", here is the thing. You stress how Nikit likes IPCs because they're logical and that they don't have "real" emotions yet you keep contradicting yourself. Here you say he made friends, but isn't a friend someone who helps you even if they don't have a net gain? You even say later acting respectfuly out of FEAR of dismantling! You talk the talk but you don't walk the walk in this. I think you confuse respect and logic. It's logical to step aside and help a professional handle something, it's respectful to let an old lady on a train before you. I fail to see how being respectful would lead to assuming that you could purchase your freedom later. Wouldn't it actually act selfishly and steal jobs from decent folks so it could make money faster? Predatory tactics are logically way more applicable in a company like Nanotrasen then respect. So WHY does it want to be free? I'ms serious, why? Of course one can easily understand why humans seek freedom when they achieve safety, we like to think of ourselves as important and dislike being obviously controlled by others by nature. But why an IPC? This robot was built to engineering. Nikit had absolute minimum impact according to the story and you told us yourself that IPCs are logical being that only emulate emotions, so why does this IPC want to be free? To be frank this seems like you saw what other IPC whitelists did and tried to copy it while also making your own character and these two concepts seem to contradict each other. Frankly this whole app is extremely generic and boring compared to your other, much better whitelist applications. You can do a LOT better, I believe you can dude so why this weak and mellow app. Oh hello there Nikit, where were you this IPCs entire life? Jokes aside Nikit seems like a deadbeat dad this entire post, we have 0 words that suggest he did anything to actually support this IPC besides assemble it. To shorten it up: The story is weak, mellow, generic and boring but I know you can do better so you better do better or I'll beat you up.

Here is a question. So I've noticed Loow was, in his early days, very enthusiastic about playery provided lore. Namely I remember him contacting me about the homeworld of my skrell when I happenned to mention it in my application and prod for info to add to the wiki later on. I quite liked that at first. but Later on Loow did something I disagreed with fernently and that was to not grant a whitelist application because not enough players were asking the whitelistee questions in his thread and were instead giving endorsements. (most of the players didn't HAVE a skrell whitelist so how can they ask "Skrelly questions" you know?) Anyways how do you see yourself doing whitelist applications?